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Apple Donating to Trump's $350M White House Ballroom Project

johnsawyercjs said:
Trump himself has publicly said multiple times for months that he'd like a third term, and would try for one, or just not leave at the end of his second term. So you're acknowledging that Trump is making up nonsense?
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He can say whatever he wants, presidents serve two terms. Is that not understood by you? Even when he says he wants to run a third term? I'm sure he'd like way more things than just a third term. Doesn't mean he's going to get them.
 
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jon9091 said:
Republicans control the Presidency, The Senate, and The House. It’s the Trump Shutdown…his third government shutdown.

"A government shutdown falls on the president's lack of leadership. I mean, problems start from the top and they have to get solved from the top. A shutdown means the president is weak." - Donald Trump 2013
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Pre-president Donald Trump is one of the most vocal critics of President Donald Trump.
 
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ratspg said:
I wouldn't support a president doing that, is the current one doing that? I haven't seen him or any other US president do that.
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Thank goodness! I asked for your redline and you said your only redline was the end of his term. So glad that you’re not sticking to that insane statement! Nice to see some sense of morality!

So I‘ll ask again, where is the line for you?
 
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Tubamajuba said:
Pre-president Donald Trump is one of the most vocal critics of President Donald Trump.
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BaldiMac said:
Thank goodness! I asked for your redline and you said your only redline was the end of his term. So glad that you’re not sticking to that insane statement! Nice to see some sense of morality!

So I‘ll ask again, where is the line for you?
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I haven't seen this president or any other US president do those wildly extreme things you mentioned. So I'm not sure why that was necessary to see if I have morals.
I do not believe that he will do those things you mentioned, so when his term is up, whoever is voted in next I will call my president as every single one before. They will do many things I like/don't like, support and don't support, but I'm sorry I haven't seen those extreme things you've mentioned.
 
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ratspg said:
I haven't seen this president or any other US president do those wildly extreme things you mentioned. So I'm not sure why that was necessary to see if I have morals.
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I love the enthusiasm! You're dodging the question though, and I'm not sure why when the answer is both obvious and easy.

See, the thing is, you don't have to wait for anyone to do horrible things to say "no, I would not support someone doing horrible things"
 
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Amazing how many people who were screaming "CORRUPTION!!!" a mere two years ago seem to be cool with blatant graft and being fleeced as long as it’s their guy who’s doing it.
 
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ProbablyDylan said:
I love the enthusiasm! You're dodging the question though, and I'm not sure why when the answer is both obvious and easy.

See, the thing is, you don't have to wait for anyone to do horrible things to say "no, I would not support someone doing horrible things"
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So get him out of there, what do you want me to tell you? lol. Do you need my support? I don't believe that he will do it.
 
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ratspg said:
He can say whatever he wants, presidents serve two terms. Is that not understood by you? Even when he says he wants to run a third term? I'm sure he'd like way more things than just a third term. Doesn't mean he's going to get them.
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LOL yes of course it's understood by me. That's my point. You pretend not to understand that the key person making up the nonsense about trying for a third term is Trump himself, not other people as you claimed.
 
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johnsawyercjs said:
LOL yes of course it's understood by me. That's my point. You pretend not to understand that the key person making up the nonsense about trying for a third term is Trump himself, not someone else as you claimed.
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Nothing that I will claim or not claim is going to change the fact that he's currently president until his term is up. I'm not pretending anything, I believe in two-terms, and if he tried for a third I'd be 100% against it and wouldn't vote for him or support him or any other president attempting the same.
He can say whatever he wants, he's not running a third term. It's just upsetting people that are swallowing up whatever he says, he's always been very good at controlling and gaining media attention, this has been him for decades.
 
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ratspg said:
I haven't seen this president or any other US president do those wildly extreme things you mentioned. So I'm not sure why that was necessary to see if I have morals.
I do not believe that he will do those things you mentioned, so when his term is up, whoever is voted in next I will call my president as every single one before. They will do many things I like/don't like, support and don't support, but I'm sorry I haven't seen those extreme things you've mentioned.
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Did you forget what we are talking about? I didn’t ask you what he’s done. I asked you what your redline is. What line could he cross in the future that would make you stop giving him a pass?

One side of the line you still say “at least he saved us some money”. The other side of the line you say “I don’t care about saving some money, he needs to go now.” Where is that line for you?
 
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Hajj.david said:
I wish Trump was even just 10% of what democrats accuse him. Democracy is a failed experiment, the best countries in the world at this point are monarchies, dictatorships, or some other autocratic system. Its an illusion of choice. Both parties are complete garbage and slaves of israel. Its all fake to rile up americans to support "their team" like it a sport or something.

Pure tribalist nonsense. In reality this country is a declining empire and has been for DECADES.
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Poppycock dude. Western Europe would like a word.
 
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BaldiMac said:
Did you forget what we are talking about? I didn’t ask you what he’s done. I asked you what your redline is. What line could he cross in the future that would make you stop giving him a pass?

One side of the line you still say “at least he saved us some money”. The other side of the line you say “I don’t care about saving some money, he needs to go now.” Where is that line for you?
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He saved us some money and also kept money supporting American families and businesses, its not just saved us some money. I've seen contracts for companies that have thousands of employees that benefit from this, and they are all American and that will also help the economy. So it's a bit more than just saving us some money, it provides livelihood for those employed as well.

I wish the world was so black/white where I can be like oh he did X, he has to go now! But I understand the fluidity of world governments and leadership, and they are ALL corrupt, every single one in modern history has very dirty hands. I wish that it wasn't that way, but it just is. I can give you a recent example, he just pardoned the founder of Binance (and I know he has family ties into crypto.) I 100% don't agree with that, so what do you want me to do? Fire him, get him out, it's time to go! He crossed a red line, he pardoned somebody that should be serving time for fraud! I'm sorry the world isn't so black and white.

I help and serve in my local community and businesses in things that I can personally change and help. To ponder about hypothetical red lines, I'm sorry, it's just not something I'm going to invest further of my time into. When his term is up, someone else will come and the people will continue bickering. I don't want to argue, I just hope he does more good than bad, and if he crosses some line, I hope he's gone for it.
 
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Biro said:
That’s actually not why the money for this project is rolling in. CEOs are busy trying to win favorable treatment by this administration. It may be the most obvious case of pay to play that I’ve seen in 50 years as a journalist.
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The Clinton Foundation, Hunter Biden being on the board of Burisma, the list goes on and on. Plus it's the lobbyists who write all the big pieces of legislation these days.
 
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Dark_Omen said:
Paid for by the working class. Why do you have a right to healthcare if you’re fully capable of working and purposefully choose to not work? And to get better coverage than the working class? That’s disgraceful.
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As someone who works hard and pays taxes only to be offered insultingly bad insurance in return, I would much rather my taxes go to universal healthcare that benefits everyone. Unlike you, I think human lives have intrinsic value outside of how much money you can make your bosses.
 
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Politics aside, that is a nice looking ballroom. I already spotted the perfect place for a portrait on Tim Cook. Behind a portrait of Trump.
 
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