Apple Doubles iPhone SE Storage to 32GB and 128GB

[trifid]

If your phone is not defective, or in need of a software restore, then I must have lucked out and gotten a special model. I've never experienced a lad, or stutter. The SE is not like other iPhones in that it was released with the same technology as the flagship phone a year and a half ago, technology that is not much different than what the 7 offers. It will wear much better than older phones which had processors that tended to lag behind their software ambitions. There's not a huge difference between the iOS 9 & iOS 10 in terms of feature demands.

If you take a lot of selfies, and high quality selfies are an important feature to you, all I can say is you had no business buying an SE. As for 16GB phones, again, there's nothing wrong with a 16GB depending on how someone uses it. It's not surprising Apple is trying to keep their profits high -- and it's not just from continuing to offer 16GB chips in their products even as the rest of the industry moves past them -- ALL of Apple's products have incredibly high margins. Blaming the SE and 16GB products as examples of Apple's greed over customer satisfaction, is hypocritical assuming you believe Apple's premium products are otherwise acceptable. The reality is, both of those products address underserved areas of Apple's market, without sacrificing profit margins, making affordable entry level devices, which may serve the customer who buys them perfectly well. How many other phone manufacturers even make a full featured smartphone which operates more or less on par with more premium products, the size of the SE? Other companies aren't even serving that market at any price. As a long time Apple customer, the SE is the perfect phone for me. For the price, I couldn't be happier. Had Apple priced it more like the 5c, I might be nitpicking it the same way you are. But this is the least greedy move I've seen Apple make in a long time. Very happy customer here, and expect the SE to be a workhorse for far longer than my previously purchased new Premium iPhones.

If there is nothing wrong with 16gb in 2017 why would Apple drop it from their entire product line and make 32gb default? Your reasoning makes no sense. The fact Apple is doing 32gb now is an admittance that maintainig 16gb was inadequate for today's smartphone demands. As an example, any good game or even Apple's apps can easily be around 1gb each, couple that with other media, and it's obvious to see how 16gb was unsustainable and changing it was long overdue.

But hey reality distortion field seems alive and well here.

 

[Mac 128]

If there is nothing wrong with 16gb in 2017 why would Apple drop it from their entire product line and make 32gb default? Your reasoning makes no sense. The fact Apple is doing 32gb now is an admittance that maintainig 16gb was inadequate for today's smartphone demands. As an example, any good game or even Apple's apps can easily be around 1gb each, couple that with other media, and it's obvious to see how 16gb was unsustainable and changing it was long overdue.

But hey reality distortion field seems alive and well here.

I don't agree. Apple dropped it, because 16GB would force them to drop the price of the SE and other products lower than they want to. I was hoping for a $299 16GB SE, and I still think it's possible they will sell one in India, and other emerging markets, where they really need to lower the price point significantly to gain traction in the market and sweep new customers into their ecosystem -- which is what the entire SE is about: a superior experience at a budget price. What Apple did was upgrade the storage to 32GB from 16GB and kept the price the same (they even raised the price on the 128GB). They still put the 16GB chips in the iPod Touch, so no, they've "admitted" nothing. If any device needs to drop the 16GB storage device, it's the iPod Touch which most customer's presumably buy to load with music and media they want to keep with them physically. And since it has no cellular radio and is the least expensive smart device Apple makes, surely it's a prime seller for kids, who are going to want to load it with games and movies if not music. Yet it persists because it hits a target selling point for the company as a halo product Apple to attract lower income customers and presumably younger buyers for whom parents don't want to spend a lot on such devices. And for a wifi connected device, 16GB is still fine for managing apps and media, especially with Apple's push for streaming. The only reason 16GB likely becomes a problem is if people take lots of videos and pictures and don't ever off-load them to the cloud or another device. I have a 16GB iPad and it works perfectly for my needs. But I ran into a limit on my 4s because I did take a lot photos and videos, despite offloading them, and was happy to get a 64GB 5s. That said, I barely ever used 32GB, and still don't on my SE. So no, there's still no problem with a 16GB device, for those who don't run a lot of apps, take a lot of photos and videos, nor need to store a lot media locally. And that's likely quite a larger group than you realize.

 

[wiivile]

Anyone who has gotten the new SE- what version of iOS does it have?

 

[trifid]

I don't agree. Apple dropped it, because 16GB would force them to drop the price of the SE and other products lower than they want to. I was hoping for a $299 16GB SE, and I still think it's possible they will sell one in India, and other emerging markets, where they really need to lower the price point significantly to gain traction in the market and sweep new customers into their ecosystem -- which is what the entire SE is about: a superior experience at a budget price. What Apple did was upgrade the storage to 32GB from 16GB and kept the price the same (they even raised the price on the 128GB). They still put the 16GB chips in the iPod Touch, so no, they've "admitted" nothing. If any device needs to drop the 16GB storage device, it's the iPod Touch which most customer's presumably buy to load with music and media they want to keep with them physically. And since it has no cellular radio and is the least expensive smart device Apple makes, surely it's a prime seller for kids, who are going to want to load it with games and movies if not music. Yet it persists because it hits a target selling point for the company as a halo product Apple to attract lower income customers and presumably younger buyers for whom parents don't want to spend a lot on such devices. And for a wifi connected device, 16GB is still fine for managing apps and media, especially with Apple's push for streaming. The only reason 16GB likely becomes a problem is if people take lots of videos and pictures and don't ever off-load them to the cloud or another device. I have a 16GB iPad and it works perfectly for my needs. But I ran into a limit on my 4s because I did take a lot photos and videos, despite offloading them, and was happy to get a 64GB 5s. That said, I barely ever used 32GB, and still don't on my SE. So no, there's still no problem with a 16GB device, for those who don't run a lot of apps, take a lot of photos and videos, nor need to store a lot media locally. And that's likely quite a larger group than you realize.

I don't know who you deal with, but everyone I know of despises 16GB, the mainstream complaint is that the phone fills up fast, like I said many apps nowadays are very heavy, and you can't workaround that with streaming. And the photos issue is also very common. It's a common issue that I argue affects a vast majority of iPhone users. So I argue that for a majority of users this causes grievance, and Apple's philosophy of superior experience breaks down here.

But hey, agree to disagree I guess.

 

[regkilla]

this is not an SE 2. it is an SE with 128gb space. there are no upgrades at all on this phone. just memory difference.

I never said this was the iPhone SE 2. My wishlist for the next version of the iPhone SE.