I remember reading Jobs bio and he said he set up Apple in a way that no CEO can turn down/reject Jony's work.
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Apple Drops Prices of 4K and 5K LG Displays by 25 Percent
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I remember reading Jobs bio and he said he set up Apple in a way that no CEO can turn down/reject Jony's work.
Didn't they say they never sold as much MBPs on launch as this year. If it smells like ********, it is ********.
I remember when Tim Cook took over and every announcement by Apple was greeted by people as not being visionary, Jobs would not approve etc and therefore Tim Cook was a hack who needed to be fired. At the time I saw it as overreacting.
Cook has done what bean counters do and increased the profit of the company. However, meeting simple expectations for regular product updates has completely destroyed faith in the brand (for what I think is safe to say - at this point) the majority of long time users. It's fine to take risks on things like the watch which to me is not impressive or desirable but the bread and butter of computing is not a peripheral and therefore does not define my loyalty to a brand. Furthermore the experience has shifted. Apple is so profit hungry it is willing to push customers to their breaking point of loyalty. We see this with the dongles and audio jack removal, the unjustified price bumps, the cheapening of what's included in the box of a new macbook (no microfiber cloth or extension cord), meanwhile the negligence of product lines and inability to remedy failed software (Siri, Maps). It used to be you paid a premium for an Apple product and received a 1st class experience - now you're just put on stand-by.
"Apple is so profit hungry it is willing to push customers to their breaking point of loyalty."
Speaking of profit-hungry, that reminds me of Steve Jobs' introduction of the MacBook Air in 2008. One USB port, a spinning 80GB hard disk, 2GB of RAM, and a very under-powered CPU (though the laptop still ran very hot locking up operation). And all for a price of $1,799.
Add to that what Angela is likely getting paid the big bucks for... her knowing how to sell way overpriced, uninspired, fashion goods (aka Burberry) to Kardashians, Chinese fashionistas and Sugar Babies... the new Apple power users... and if you look at Apple's retail and product moves totally aligns with that.
Apple is becoming a fashion... feels a lot like Sony after their peak.
If it wasn't for being locked into a Mac for Xcode I'd be going back to a windows machine (MS, Razor or maybe Lenovo)
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Because until Thunderbolt 3, there was no way to drive a 5K monitor with one cable. Apple hates connecting to a monitor with two cables. They enabled this feature only on higher-end 2015 Macabook Pros and on retina iMacs, but they never released a monitor that would require two cables carrying video signal.
Now that Thunderbolt 3 is available, your idea would make sense, except the iMac still has no Thunderbolt 3. Perhaps with the 2017 iMac, when they put Thunderbolt 3 in it, they could release a 5K monitor in the iMac case.
Considering that the current MacBook Pro was so old, I expect that even the highest *online* sales numbers ever might still be less than they expected.
On the other hand, if Apple were really concerned about sales, they'd reduce the price of the MacBook Pro, not the accessories, which are really a drop in the bucket. From what I can tell, this is a PR move by Apple meant to show they are not trying to make money off of the accessories/dongles.
Never thought that I'd see Apple respond this quickly to the market. Maybe also they obtained a deal with supply chain, but Apple tries to max profit for future R&D. Definitely appears to be adjustment to low demand.
Apple's contribution to design could easily been just a call from Tim: "You'll put only those usbctb3-ports to it! Nothing else! No, we don't wanna know about dp1.4 or hdmi2.1! We want those mac people to buy them in 2019! It will be magical! No 6k before that, okay!"
MacRumors has become nothing but complaints. It's really sad. It doesn't matter how amazing the product Apple announces, everyone still looks for the bad every single time.
When was the last time MR liked a product? They hated the iPhone and lack of a physical keyboard. They hated the iPod and the price. They find everything to hate and can't ever find the good in anything. It's truly sad.
It must suck to be LG right now. With the discount, is the loss covered by Apple or does LG simply eat it?
And for all those who think this 2016 Apple new product launch is not a complete failure, just watch the discounts rolling out barely 1-2 weeks after the announcement.
I predict Apple will cut price on the newly introduced Macbook 'Pro' laptops. They will watch how it goes, and than decide whether to bring back some ports or even start including the adapters for free.
And for all those who think this 2016 Apple new product launch is not a complete failure, just watch the discounts rolling out barely 1-2 weeks after the announcement.
I predict Apple will cut price on the newly introduced Macbook 'Pro' laptops. They will watch how it goes, and than decide whether to bring back some ports or even start including the adapters for free.
Well thats the state we are in, no one is making monitors with quality metal enclosures. So if these unfortunately were your choices would you choose :
- a plastic LG monitor with hardly an bezels except for the bottom, so the crap plastic isn't staring you in the face
- a plastic LG monitor, co-designed with Apple, the company that cares about design so much the only thing they print on their products beside their logo is "DESIGNED in California", with HUGE ugly plastic bezels all around, and then to top it off disproportionally on the top.
Our only hope seems to be if Microsoft creates a monitors for their Surface line. Judging by the other Surface products, we know it will be high quality materials with quality design.
[doublepost=1478544355][/doublepost]Maybe this monitor & its bezels is one of those Apple jokes they like to do once in a while, like the Motorola ROKR or Apple Socks.
[doublepost=1478545789][/doublepost]I'm sure the display itself is quite adequate, but the design is total . It's embarrassing that Apple even had anything to do with this. I suppose it doesn't really matter, given that you can't buy a professional Mac with a straight face anymore. I'd say we should start writing letters, but this company stopped caring about its pro users years ago. If they can't sell a rose gold version to rich teenagers, it's not worth the bother. Good luck with that strategy in 5 years. Meanwhile, Imma go see what Microsoft is up to...
Along with dropping the prices on all of its USB-C adapters accessories to help new MacBook Pro owners transition to USB-C more affordably, Apple has also introduced some significant price cuts to the 4K and 5K LG UltraFine Displays that were announced at its October 27 Mac event.
The LG UltraFine 5K Display is now priced at $974, a $325 price cut from its original price of $1,299.95.
The LG UltraFine 4K Display is now priced at $524, a $175 price cut from its original price of $699.95.
Each of LG UltraFine Display was designed in partnership with Apple to work specifically with the new MacBook Pro. The displays connect to the Apple's new MacBook Pro machines over Thunderbolt 3 and have features like built-in USB-C ports, charging capabilities, stereo speakers, P3 wide color gamut support, and on the 5K monitor, a camera and a microphone.
LG's 4K display is available for purchase immediately from the online Apple Store and will ship out to customers in five to six weeks. The 5K Display is not yet available for purchase, with Apple planning to launch it in December.
The price drops on the two displays are labeled as "Special Pricing" and will last until the end of the year. Apple also plans to discount its USB-C adapters until the end of 2016.
Article Link: Apple Drops Prices of 4K and 5K LG Displays by 25 Percent
Apple is becoming a fashion... feels a lot like Sony after their peak.
If it wasn't for being locked into a Mac for Xcode I'd be going back to a windows machine (MS, Razor or maybe Lenovo)
I like the way Steve Blank put it when being interviewed about his piece Tim Cook is the New Steve Ballmer. He said Apple has basically fired its 3rd party developers with the release of this new MPB and negligence of the Mac Pro line. He is completely out of touch with the end user experience. Looking at the iPhone 7 missing audio jack, the dongles on the MPB, missing magsafe, the lack of stuff that comes in the box, the clumsiness of a device like the apple watch etc etc - it's hard to argue against it.
Then really, who is the CEO?
Here's … Jony.
Should one man have that much power over every hardware piece.
Maybe that is one of the reasons Apple has not released updates to the other Mac lines.
Don't get me wrong, Jony's done great work and for the most part I like what he has done. Sometimes though, he is a little extreme and perhaps too singularly focused on one aspect of design. At least for my tastes, and apparently others as well from what I am reading on the forums.
I have a lot of questions about the current macbook pro. However you can't argue Tim Cook is Steve Ballmer, who extended the status quo existing products to the exclusion of everything else, and then point to iPhone 7 and MacBooks and say they changed so its like the same as MS under Ballmer.. You can't say Ballmer only pushed existing products and so he missed entire cycles of innovation (which he did), and then say Apple under Tim Cook is doing the same by changing things. If the Macbook Pro came out with an entire insane range of ports, like a lot of PCs, then you might have a case.
I didn't argue Tim Cook is Steve Ballmer, Steve Blank did and obviously anyone can argue whatever they want. I simply agree with the article. Do yourself the favor of reading it too if you want to say something constructive and intelligent about it and avoid having to be corrected on what's actually being said in the comparison.
#triggered. Never used that, but damn this post is ultimate absurdity. jozero was simply arguing that Tim Cook is not the new Steve Ballmer and you went all personal and insulted his intelligence. Damn... relax it's just a laptop.
Then again, you joined yesterday, so you're probably just here to troll.
Before the 2012 retina MBP(which people complained to no end about when it was released), the previous MBP was 2008 (4 years earlier, same time difference as this cycle), which people also viciously complained about when it was announced.
2012
https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1244m4/apples_13_macbook_pro_pricing_is_batshit_insane/
2008
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-announces-new-aluminum-macbooks.580479/
Apple would've already set terms on the wholesale price with LG, so Apple would take the hit. Margins on the 21.5 will likely be lower than those on the 5K. Given the availability of alternative 4K displays, I'm actually surprised 4K was a focus for Apple.
Wow. Apple is willing to eat up that much loss? Really NO ONE must be ordering the LG monitors...
Can you use the 30" ACD via ... something on these ports? I'm confused by this doc from Apple on the TB3 to TB2 Adapter. Is there a TB3->mDP adapter that I can use?:
The Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter doesn't support connections to these devices:
The Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter doesn't support connections to these devices:
- Apple DisplayPort display