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Apple Drops Prices of 4K and 5K LG Displays by 25 Percent
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You can control the brightness via the Emoji Bar.
You're missing that USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 is backwards compatible with just about anything you can think of.
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/usb-type-c-thunderbolt-3-one-cable-to-connect-them-all/
Go ahead and complain, and buy your value displays, power to ya. These are awesome, simple as that. I own a very nice Dell 4k 24", wonderful display, but i've got a feeling these best the Dells, and are Apple displays in generic housings.
And you show me another 21" 4k with 500nits. 21" monitors invariably max out at 250 nits. This one is twice as bright. I like bright 4k displays, and although they are asking Apple prices, you get what you pay for.
I think you will find that the Apple thunderbolt displays were in fact generic displays in Apple housings. I can't remember the company that made the "Apple" displays, but I certainly heard it was not Apple.
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I know that. What I meant was it was controlled by Apple. So in effect, it is a Cinema Display in a generic case, which is an Apple spec'd LG panel, in an non-Apple designed case. But i'm pretty sure Apple approved the case also, just did not design it.
I'm not sure why Apple is doing this. It's a little odd, no?
Maybe an aluminium casing would add $100 to the final price and very few non-Apple users would be willing to pay for that.
They are horrendously ugly. Odd thing is that some of LG's "own" products, live TVs are actually quite pretty, hence paradoxically this "collaboration" with Apple churns out a baby which is more ugly than either of the parents.
Wrong!
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Wow! USB-C is USB. Thanks for the heads up. How long will it be before Apple sells brand new state of the art products that are compatible out of the box, next year perhaps? They used to you know. Your new iPhone 7 connects to your new MacBook Pro how? Not with a cable they provide in the product you buy. You can buy a new cable that they should have provided but didn't or you have to buy a what, a dongle of some kind.
Don't get me completely wrong here, I am NOT anti-progress as USB-C seems like tech is finally getting to where it should be in terms of I/O but Apple, quite simply, could have done a far better job on the transition.
Does the 27UD88-W have P3 Wide Color? It says it has 10bit (8bit + A-FRC)? Why didn't Apple promote this monitor?
http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27UD88-W-4k-uhd-led-monitor
i'd like to learn more on this too. looks like a quality monitorDoes the 27UD88-W have P3 Wide Color? It says it has 10bit (8bit + A-FRC)? Why didn't Apple promote this monitor?
http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27UD88-W-4k-uhd-led-monitor
It was a mistake to increase prices on this machine. But I don't think this was about ego in any way.
I suspect the expected sales of the new MBP were modeled very carefully. Not just in number but by the type of customers who they expect to spring for it.
The company has been trying to shed the view that their machines are overpriced for a long time. Apple's best interest is to price it at the maximum that people will still feel it is a good value.
It is not a coincidence that three weeks ago IBM's vice president of IT got on stage and said mac laptops are are actually cheaper to support than PC counterparts. iPhone sales have been declining and enterprise is not picking up the slack fast enough.
I think Apple made a genuine mistake with pricing given a single new machine updated with no other announcements.
A more complete announcement such as iMac updates and an explanation about what is happening with Apple Displays might have given more weight to the impending MBP release.
Having the MBP announced by itself at this price, the only one with a Touchpad and unable to connect to iPhone 7 makes it feel like an alien product.
The whole release feels weird to me. It seems like the company is struggling to ship products.
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Does the 27UD88-W have P3 Wide Color? It says it has 10bit (8bit + A-FRC)? Why didn't Apple promote this monitor?
http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27UD88-W-4k-uhd-led-monitor
Apple obviously prefers 5K for 27" screen sizes, and wanted the same wide color gamut as the MBP screen. Plus, the base design in the UD88 with the awkward plastic/metal combo and banana shaped footprint is kind of goofy.
It's definitely ego. They were once riding innovation, charging their price while still building brand. Now, they're just riding the brand. Apple once supported pro users, now they don't, but want to charge premium prices still. That's not how it works and the result is that these MacBook pros are now clearly overpriced with less value.
Yep. I'm sure those LG displays are beautiful but I'm on a Dell at the moment and it is also beautiful. And no I'm not talking about the case, I don't give a rat's arse about the case, it's the image quality that is everything.
Sadly, Apple does not make a single Mac that I want. A hackintosh will replace my Mac Pro Tower when the time comes. Eventually I fear that macOS will be ruined by Apple and I'll have to switch to Windows. At least then I can enjoy great hardware at reasonable prices.
One can argue that shipping a USB-C to Lightning cable with the new MBPs would be a good idea because a clear majority of Mac users probably have at least one iOS device. This would be also less of a bridge to the past than to the present and the near future (as Apple is for all we know not likely to switch away from Lightning in the short term). The reverse, shipping a USB-C to Lightning cable with the iPhone would make less sense since a clear majority of iPhone users does not use Macs and USB-C on PCs is still a minority (there are also still many Macs without USB-C and).
But then how often has Apple shipped any adaptor with any Mac in the past? I don't really remember even a single case. FW400 users needed to buy their own FW400 to FW800 cable, ditto for DVI and Ethernet users. And given that people complain about 10x more about needing to buy maybe $100 worth of dongles than the price being increased by $300, Apple would have done much better raising the price another $100 and include a few dongles. But there the question is already what dongles to include, I own tons of unused cables that came with other products. Maybe a USB-C to Lightning cable, a USB-C to USB-A dongle and a USB-C to (m)DP cable.
Now you're just complaining about price, not about the imaginary need for dongles. You don't need dongles, you need one of these still quite expensive cables.
• USB-C to Lightning Cable (1m) - Was $25, now $19
• USB-C to Lightning Cable (2m) - Was $35, now $29
They'll probably start shipping them with next years iPhone, together with a new 5W USB-C Power Adapter. Which creates the interesting problem that most people won't be able to use them as data cables with their old computers.
Or... Just use one of these tiny inline and highly rated USB C to USB A adapters with the existing Lightening cable that came with your phone. $4 each when you buy a pair of them. Monoprice has low-cost adapters as well.
So let me get this straight:
This connects via USB-C/TB3 to the new MBP - ok.
So this would be perfect to then have some legacy ports on it such as USB-A, maybe ethernet, SD-Card reader etc.... acting like a dock.
And what are we getting: three more USB-C. So clearly, even if there is no Apple logo on it, we can see who has designed / inspired it....
This connects via USB-C/TB3 to the new MBP - ok.
So this would be perfect to then have some legacy ports on it such as USB-A, maybe ethernet, SD-Card reader etc.... acting like a dock.
And what are we getting: three more USB-C. So clearly, even if there is no Apple logo on it, we can see who has designed / inspired it....
The price is really nice. Especially since the thing is ugly as hell. Really functional, and I'll be buying a few, but they are UGLY
I always saw the original iPhone proce as Apple setting a really high price to lower demand during a time when production was just ramping up and they didn't know how well it would sell.
I wouldn't be surprised if Tim devised this very plan/price himself.
It was a poorly planned roll out.
I agree with you that Apple has not, in the recent past, been a company to include adaptors and extras in the box, sans the Apple stickers. Clearly this was not foreseen, the backlash. One thing Apple should be doing when a person buys a new MacBook Pro is giving the purchaser the option of receiving a free USB-C to Lightning cable. Apple could have included one USB-A 3.0 port/jack on the new Pro to support all the users legacy equipment while going through the upgrade process.
It is not like Apple doesn't have the money in the bank to absorb the $3, to them, cost of the cable. And yes, minimally Apple should have included one USB-C to USB-A dongle if their is no USB-A 3.0 port.
I know Jony's sensibilities would be offended by the non-matching ports but perhaps Apple should care less about Jony's design symmetry and more about the end users convenience.
I wonder if Tim has EVER said no to something Jony has designed?