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I don't see why anyone would be excited about this "deal". You can buy comparable monitors that are not crippled (i.e. have standard video inputs in addition to the still exotic USB-C) for less money, including LG models. The original price was just ridiculous.
 
WTF is Apple doing? Anybody?

it's a firesale!!

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I'd jump all over one of these if I could connect it to my desktop PC.
 
This is concerning, Apple has never been renowkned for dropping their prices and its something i have like about apple as it ensures great resale value on their products, for this reason alone I have cancelled my order for the new MBP, cos its probably just a matter of time before they drop the price on this or even better the 2015 model and il buy one of those.

Apple is trying so hard to become one of the other technology players that they forgot about product innovation. You see in the apple executive suite it is all about advertising. Thats what they teach at the ivy league schools. It takes courage to just do what everyone else is doing, except remove a few ports, lower the ram, and include a custom apple only SSD.

And we now see what the lack of relentless push for perfection looks like when it is missing. And I'm not saying it was ever achieved, but at least it was strived for.
 
They won't reduce the price of the MBP now. That would be admitting they priced it wrong. Lowering accessories is one thing. And like I said in the other thread - they blew the opportunity for cheers and some great press by NOT announcing these reductions at the keynote.

I concur, though I do think they'll reduce the MBP price as soon as the Kaby Lake refresh happens.
 
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If they dropped the prices so much after they've announce them, not even being released until December, imagine the profit margin for Apple, for their own products. And they increase the price on the MBP even if the hardware is one year old... :))
 
Was it on sale somewhere? I see the new price, but I don't see it as available to purchase on Apple's site.
 
Design is pretty boring though as a replacement for the Cinema Display..., particularly that top chin is pretty ugly.

Next-gen design seems thin-bezel, something like this is pretty sexy:

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I bet there will be chip updates as soon as Intel has low watt Kaby Lake chips available.
I did a search and saw the latest Intel roadmap leak shows Coffee Lake running 6-core 14nm in laptops around early 2018. What would be more interesting to me is quad-core in a TDP that the 13" MBP could handle, but that doesn't look to be in the cards for some time. However, the 10nm Cannon Lake chips could be pretty interesting in the MacBook and 13" MBP on the lower end. I'd love to have a machine that is comparable in speed to current MBPs in a 13" form factor to accompany a much more powerful six-core 27" iMac.

If people don't absolutely need to upgrade their older machines, such as to get 4K and 5K external displays and a small CPU performance bump, then it might be worth waiting for those 6-core systems. Surely by then they'll have 32GB RAM options and widespread USB-C adoption so we can stop complaining. Either that or Apple will start building their own CPUs for the Mac. Either way it could be worth the wait for those who aren't wowed by this update. They'll probably build-in that customizable keyboard key tech by then too.
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Design is pretty boring though as a replacement for the Cinema Display..., particularly that top chin is pretty ugly.

Next-gen design seems thin-bezel, something like this is pretty sexy:

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Really sad that Dell is considered "next-gen design" now. Many of their monitors have looked like that for years now.
 
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They should drop the price back down to pre update levels ($200-$300) off across the board for the new MBPs. They did this with the original 13" Retina MBP. If they do it later there will be buyer remorse and Kuo rumored the price drop recently as well.
 
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I did a search and saw the latest Intel roadmap leak shows Coffee Lake running 6-core 14nm in laptops around early 2018. What would be more interesting to me is quad-core in a TDP that the 13" MBP could handle, but that doesn't look to be in the cards for some time. However, the 10nm Cannon Lake chips could be pretty interesting in the MacBook and 13" MBP on the lower end. I'd love to have a machine that is comparable in speed to current MBPs in a 13" form factor to accompany a much more powerful six-core 27" iMac.

If people don't absolutely need to upgrade their older machines, such as to get 4K and 5K external displays and a small CPU performance bump, then it might be worth waiting for those 6-core systems. Surely by then they'll have 32GB RAM options and widespread USB-C adoption so we can stop complaining. Either that or Apple will start building their own CPUs for the Mac. Either way it could be worth the wait for those who aren't wowed by this update. They'll probably build-in that customizable keyboard key tech by then too.
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Really sad that Dell is considered "next-gen design" now. Many of their monitors have looked like that for years now.

I guess, it's definitely odd that Apple is partnering with LG and coming up with such a retro boring monitor design.
 
My 5K iMac is only 3 years old. But in 2-3 years when I'm ready, a 13" MBP and the 5K display, or their respective successors, will replace the iMac in my set up.
 



Along with dropping the prices on all of its USB-C adapters accessories to help new MacBook Pro owners transition to USB-C more affordably, Apple has also introduced some significant price cuts to the 4K and 5K LG UltraFine Displays that were announced at its October 27 Mac event.

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The LG UltraFine 5K Display is now priced at $974, a $325 price cut from its original price of $1,299.95.

The LG UltraFine 4K Display is now priced at $524, a $175 price cut from its original price of $699.95.

Each of LG UltraFine Display was designed in partnership with Apple to work specifically with the new MacBook Pro. The displays connect to the Apple's new MacBook Pro machines over Thunderbolt 3 and have features like built-in USB-C ports, charging capabilities, stereo speakers, P3 wide color gamut support, and on the 5K monitor, a camera and a microphone.

LG's 4K display is available for purchase immediately from the online Apple Store and will ship out to customers in five to six weeks. The 5K Display is not yet available for purchase, with Apple planning to launch it in December.

The price drops on the two displays are labeled as "Special Pricing" and will last until the end of the year. Apple also plans to discount its USB-C adapters until the end of 2016.

Article Link: Apple Drops Prices of 4K and 5K LG Displays by 25 Percent

So does this mean Apple's own displays are genuinely dead-&-gone now? Or is that just rumors?
 
Wow! Weird! That LG 5K UltraFine is looking a lot less ugly at that price point. Tempted.


Edit: Nope, that monitor is still hideous.

That "forehead" is just ugly, eh? What would possess Apple to be proud of helping LG with that?
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So does this mean Apple's own displays are genuinely dead-&-gone now? Or is that just rumors?

I'm pretty sure this means that Apple won't be releasing any of their own monitors. Instead, they will assist LG and others with creating decent Mac-friendly monitors. Had they created their own, they would simply be using the same panels anyway, only those that meet their high specs.
 
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Not creating a complimentary monitor with Apple look-and-feel is definitely a sad indication that the design and integration genius of Steve Jobs is slipping away from Apple. If these were Apple monitors I'd be in. Now I'm disappointed.

I've been waiting for an iMac refresh and was counting on complimentary Apple retina displays. I can't imagine having two of these IMO ugly LG monitors sitting next to an IMac. I feel that Apple is dropping the ball. They're creating this huge expensive building complex in Cupertino for their own employees, like Apple is the center of the universe, but now almost seems getting too big for their own britches by losing dedication to the needs and wants of their developer community in the hardware sphere, stringing us along, leaving us guessing. Now they dropped the ball big time on the external monitor peripheral I've been waiting years to upgrade for, so I could get a hot maxed-out iMac and a couple of Apple external retina displays with the consistent Apple look and feel. And I'm really not happy about it.

First we get compromised memory expansion options of the 'pro' notebook for the sake of the aesthetic, and at the same time ultra-tacky cheap PC-peripheral style external monitors that totally botch the aesthetic? Which is it Apple? You put the aesthetic first or you put features first? I guess Apple is selling out to the lowest common de-monitor. As long as we look good at Starbucks and the conference room we can look like uncoordinated dorks on our desktops at home?

And we have no idea where Apple is going with the desktop line. That's really annoying. If Apple actually does have a game plan that includes building their own retina monitors in a desktop refresh, they probably can't hint at that now anyway, otherwise no one will want to spring for the LG units. What a mess. And if they really did kill-off their external monitor business, as rumor has it, I think it's a huge mistake. IMO Apple is rich enough to offer some perks like complimentary displays to their internal and external developers just so people can have a complete integration story and Apple Look And Feel, even if monitors aren't the most profitable product in and of themselves. That could be the thing that drives the the high-end desktop purchaes. I'm sure Steve Jobs would not put up with this!

Who wants their nice Apple equipment sitting next to that cheap-looking unmatching LG monitor?

Who the hell is making Apple's product line decisions lately? I hope Steve Jobs' poltergeist haunts their nightmares! (Not really, he's probably designing the world best monitor in the after life)


Apple used to be uncompromising about quality and the complete end-to-end user experience. But now, not only are developers disenfranchised by the way Apple handles the App store, but we're we're also getting hung out to dry by how Apple is proceeding with its product line. Maybe you forgot who your heavily invested friends are and taking us for granted.

If Apple starts to look more like PCs even as PCs start to get niftier and cheaper... Gonna start wondering why I keep paying the "Apple tax", which I've been willing to do for the perfect experience. If Apple decides the desktop isn't profitable enough, and loses me on the desktop, they will probably lose me on other parts of the Apple platform as well, because it ain't cheap and I'm tired of getting stressed-out playing guessing games about whether Apple's going to support some essential thing I need this year, next year or never. I can't plan my budget. So if the desktop goes, I may also say goodbye with the beloved iPhone and Apple watch. Primarily as an act of pragmatism but increasingly considering it as an act of rebellion.
 
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Next up Macs made by someone else - LG, Samsung, HP, Dell all making laptops running macOS and XCode for you to develop and maintain iOS apps.
 
Great, now let's discount the MacBook Pro 25% till the end of the year.

I wish!

How bad ARE the new MacBook pros selling? If they had planned this already, these lower peripheral prices would have been the starting point after the event. The only thing that makes sense is this is some kind of damage control...

This reminds me of the antenna gate scandal. They basically threw in a free accessory to help mitigate the findings. The biggest complaints that Apple seemed to have picked up on were in relation to the USB-C transition and lack of connectivity. Dropping prices on the connectors to mitigate this seemed to be an equivalent like the rubber band case for the iPhone.

Demand is so high that they're dropping prices of accessories...

See the reasoning above. I think this is more like the rubber band case for the iPhone scandal where they make a move to mitigate the complaints about connectivity.
 
Well these prices drops are actually pretty nice, a lot more meaningful than the insulting price drops on their already overpriced (and still overpriced) adapters. However, this does nothing to rectify the fact that the new MacBook Pro's are hardly "Pro" machines and are insanely overpriced.
 
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