It's infuriating. Especially given the extremely minimal difference in space requirements.
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Apple Drops Prices on USB-C Adapters
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It's infuriating. Especially given the extremely minimal difference in space requirements.
Remember those dudes who criticised us for speaking out?
Well, now you're saving dollar, would just like to say "you're welcome".
Hold your tongue next time we are being consumer champions.
Well, now you're saving dollar, would just like to say "you're welcome".
Hold your tongue next time we are being consumer champions.
Both of these problems are caused by non-compliant devices - improperly shield USB devices and TI controllers not conforming to Intel's TB3 spec. But whatever floats your boat.
Nope. No methadone for you buddy. Kick that habit cold turkey.
On a serious note, we all knew USB C is the standard going forward for a while now. I figured a site dedicated to techies would've been prepared already.
While I applaud their move to all-USB-C in principle, I have a really hard time understanding why they didn't include a C->Lightning and a C->A cable with every MBP. For someone who isn't reading tech sites day in, day out, receiving a new Mac and not being able to connect her iPhone or Lightning headphones to it is a terrible user-experience.
Designing for experience means not letting things like that slip.
Designing for experience means not letting things like that slip.
that is the biggest misstep (not able to connect the iPhone).
As opposed to those who just buy their Mac as a desk ornament?
The sensible solution on the desk is a hub or dock that connects all of your junk via one cable, and charges at the same time, and USB-C really improves the options for this (once the teething troubles are sorted out). If, however, when you head out on the road, you have to take your dock with you, you're holding it wrong, so most people will need some adapters to cope with people handing them USB sticks etc.
Anybody who takes their MacBook to meetings or demonstrates their work to clients will need one or both or the AV adapters - because nobody can guarantee whether the meeting room projector will have VGA (most common), HDMI (cropping up occasionally now) or an Apple TV so you can stream (Flap. Oink). Handily, these will also give you a USB-A port. Since we've been carrying around VGA and HDMI dongles for most of this century, the result is no less convenient than before - the main annoyance is the price.
Hopefully we won't need so many adapters as such... as long as your stuff doesn't have captive cables, its mainly a case of buying replacement cables - you can get USB-C to USB-A, USB-B, USB-micro B, DisplayPort (& HDMI on the way) cables, and once you've got over having to pay for them, the result is just as neat as before. The adapters/dongles will be for things not covered by USB-C alt modes (like Ethernet and, because Intel are hopeless, Thunderbolt 1/2) or those annoying devices with captive cables (*cough* Apple 27" LED Cinema Display *cough*)..
Ah. Another desk ornament type.
If you have the latest, top-end WiFi ac router, and there aren't any walls 5GHz-unfriendly walls in the way, and your neighbour isn't microwaving pop-tarts, and you don't live next to 50 other WiFi users, and the weather conditions are right, and Apple have defied convention and written a reliable WiFi driver and you don't work in an office where WiFi is verboten then, on a good day, you might get the same bandwidth out of wireless as a 1Gig Ethernet cable. Or, just plug in a cable and be sure.... and wireless doesn't come close to USB 3.1 or Thunderbolt for bandwidth.
...actually, it does sweeten things somewhat - I'd need both AV adapters, a Lightning cable for my iPad, and maybe a couple of USB-C-to-A adapters for my "travel kit" so that's about 70 bucks off the bill. Maybe not that significant as part of a $3k laptop deal, but 70 bucks is 70 bucks.
Kudos: as well as a small sweetener to customers, this will also encourage them to get (hopefully) decent quality stuff from the Apple store and not cheap stuff that might fry their Macs or just plain not work - which should also head off support calls to Apple. What goes around comes around.
Now, Apple, for your next trick get a better range of USB-C/TB3 stuff in the store: like usb-c to displayport, maybe a MiniDisplayPort AV adapter, some hubs & docks... you really shouldn't have released a USB-C only MBP without having a USB-C ecosystem ready to ship with it. Oh, and I still don't think chucking a USB-A dongle in with the Mac is gonna derail the uptake of USB-C ... and they're still stiffing people by not putting a charge cable and extension lead in the box with the power adapter.
Their hasty decisions to essentially cripple their devices ability to connect is finally costing them. There's absolutely no reason they had to take these ports/jacks away, it's not brave, it's arrogant.
There is ZERO proof for that. But whatever floats your boat.
Yes. Precisely. I'm not sure why this is so difficult for people to grasp around here.
I partially blame the early reviews out on the non-Touch model. Most of them complained about dongles when all they needed to do was buy the right cable instead (and they aren't expensive) and the problem was solved.
The Verge or whoever posted that idiotic photo of someone connecting their iPhone to the MBP using 2 adapters comes to mind. 1 cable will do, just like it always has been.
I agree. Thunderbolt 3/USB-C is great for many reasons. But it's infuriating to buy something that expensive that lacks even the most commonly needed adapters, including one for Apple's own iOS products. It's equally infuriating that the power adapter extension cable is now an extra purchase, since it has been included as long as anyone can remember. And things like that make customers feel like they are being had. It changes the purchase dynamic from something exciting and fun to something filled with resentment and even shame for giving in.
I also think Apple should have kept the SD card slot, since a dongle for that is particularly annoying, SD cards are ubiquitous among pro photographers (presumably, some of the "pros" wants to buy this machine), and they aren't going anywhere. Modernizing ports is great, throwing everything out at once is not so much.
I said very clearly, Apple should have included the cable in the laptop box for a BRAND NEW iPhone that should work with the laptop without any extra cables. Customers shouldn't have to pay an extra $20 for a cable that should have come with the laptop, and SECONDLY, the iPhone should ALREADY have been compatible with the laptop. You'd think Apple would have designed the latest Macbook Pro or iphone 7 to not force the customers to spend another $20. They haven't done that on any previous release – why this time? It's because Apple has turned to ****.
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Just got off the store's online chat. Was told that refunds on the price difference will be going out this next week automatically!
nice sarcasm, Apple will always screw us because of the blind support like yours..
No. This is exactly what you said. Verbatim: "You can't even attach a new iPhone to the laptop b/c no connectors work."
You said no connectors work and that there's way to connect an iPhone to the MBP. There very clearly is a single cable that works. This is precisely the same amount of cables you'd need in the past to do the same thing, too. 1.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
Because that is the wrong solution. And where does it stop?
Most people need to adapt their external drives to USB-C and the correct way to do that is buy the proper cable, be it micro USB, or Firewire, or USB 3, or Thunderbolt 2.
Then there's USB peripherals. If they include one adapter that's great for a mouse, but what about the keyboard? So should they include two? And of course it's a laptop, so why would they include adapters for external keyboards and mice?
Maybe they include one for USB thumb drives, but again, where does it stop? I have a drawer full of them, and sometimes I plug two in at once. So does Apple include two adapters?
In the end, that's not how anyone should do it. Apple including an adapter will only enable people to keep using USB-A devices and cables.
I also disagree that Apple should not have included a 3.5mm adapter with the iPhone 7 for the same reasons, but now I'm starting to realize there was an ulterior motive for that, having to do with no Lightning headphone adapters, and the fact that AirPods have been delayed to market indefinitely.
Wait what? The sole things I liked at this launch were the colour options and the non-illuminated logo...