Apple Drops Prices on USB-C Adapters

symphara said:
They have quite a while to go until reaching 10Gbps.

USB3.1 is hardly a limitation for this use case, in the foreseeable future, which includes the life span of the new Macbook Pro line.
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Sorry, I re-read the initial post I quoted and realized it was related to USB-C vs USB 3 and their affect on SD speeds:

"Really? So everything NOT USB-C is now "legacy"? Exactly how will this help me move photos from my professional, state of the art SD Card based camera to my "Pro" computer for editing?"

I thought it was related to the SD slot, which I believe is slower than a card reader. However, if the post was actually saying that thunderbolt 3 speeds are useless because SD is too slow to take advantage of the speeds, it is missing the point of these ports.

The point is that slow tech doesn't lose anything ( other than maybe changing a cable) from using these ports, but faster devices can take advantage of them. There is already "pro" equipment like Red Cameras that record to SSD that will see advantages from faster ports.

In other words, they didn't design this tech to max out at the lowest common denominator.
 
Uofmtiger said:
Sorry, I re-read the initial post I quoted and realized it was related to USB-C vs USB 3 and their affect on SD speeds:

"Really? So everything NOT USB-C is now "legacy"? Exactly how will this help me move photos from my professional, state of the art SD Card based camera to my "Pro" computer for editing?"

I thought it was related to the SD slot, which I believe is slower than a card reader. However, if the post was actually saying that thunderbolt 3 speeds are useless because SD is too slow to take advantage of the speeds, it is missing the point of these ports.

The point is that slow tech doesn't lose anything ( other than maybe changing a cable) from using these ports, but faster devices can take advantage of them. There is already "pro" equipment like Red Cameras that record to SSD that will see advantages from faster ports.

In other words, they didn't design this tech to max out at the lowest common denominator.
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No reason why they couldn't have used a USB 3 interface internally for the SD card slot and made it the same speed as an external device. When all is said and done they just didn't want to add it. Probably cost saving. It may be pennies per device, but multiply that by the millions of devices they sell and it adds up to millions of dollars saved.
 
ipedro said:
What's best for me as a consumer is technology moving ahead as fast as possible. If I wanted the comfort of old standards, I'd get a PC.

Why are people acting surprised? Apple has always been quick to drop old standards to speed up adoption of new ones. It's been happening for decades.
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I partially agree with you, though on the other had I have so many apple proprietary connectors and standards that never took off...kinda getting fed up for being the early adopters for standards no one supports.

It's interesting when you build a hackintosh, how you appreciate having connectors . For me anyway.

I'm all for thunderbolt, though that's cause I've gone egpu route, but forcing everyone Else down that path, which also means lots of profits due for the need of dongles, is not just in the interest of improving tech....the first step is massive profits, they just made significant price drops in the dongles and are still making a massive profit....these dongles are disgusting price wise....and apple users just smile and pretend they are leading....PC guys don't care...in my opinion

Can't wait to test the new MacBook Pro with my gtx 1070
 
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bladerunner2000 said:
Lipstick on a pig. Reducing prices on dongles won't change the fact that their computers are trash.
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And can be killed by a USB killer INSTANTLY.
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flyinmac said:
It's a start. Ideally we wouldn't need so many adapters to plug in daily use items.

But, one can easily see that Apple is hoping that reducing the adapter prices will help them sell more MacBook Pro machines, which have a greater profit per unit.

Their reasoning is pure PR spin. They now realize that they've made some huge tradeofffs with the design, and hope that if they sell us the adapters cheap enough, that it won't hurt the computer's sales too much.

Sadly, this update makes it very easy to envision plugging an adapter into the computer, and another adapter into that adapter, followed by another adapter, which finally enables your device to be plugged in.
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cmaier said:
Nope.

https://www.apple.com/pr/library/20...one-Price-at-399-for-this-Holiday-Season.html
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OMG! You are right! Apple didn't drop it's price because everyone was screaming, they did it once in the past, and everything i said is completely WRONG!!

I'm impressed you found that press release, do you work for Apple under the Dongle head himself? If so, he would tell you that this move was done to stop the massive outcry. Are you trying to say that the price drop has nothing to do with the public outcry? Is this more corporate BS and spin?
 
How about reducing the price of the machine and throwing in some dongles for free? That would help ease the transition. At current prices, I'll be keeping my existing MBP because it works for what I need to do. Should I require a new machine, it will be something other than this new gimmick MBP that still only contains 16 GB ram. Any Apple engineers actually do work on your MBPs? Any of you actually try to run a virtual machine on it while also running programs and working in the native OS?
 
Uofmtiger said:
Sorry, I re-read the initial post I quoted and realized it was related to USB-C vs USB 3 and their affect on SD speeds:

"Really? So everything NOT USB-C is now "legacy"? Exactly how will this help me move photos from my professional, state of the art SD Card based camera to my "Pro" computer for editing?"

I thought it was related to the SD slot, which I believe is slower than a card reader. However, if the post was actually saying that thunderbolt 3 speeds are useless because SD is too slow to take advantage of the speeds, it is missing the point of these ports.

The point is that slow tech doesn't lose anything ( other than maybe changing a cable) from using these ports, but faster devices can take advantage of them. There is already "pro" equipment like Red Cameras that record to SSD that will see advantages from faster ports.

In other words, they didn't design this tech to max out at the lowest common denominator.
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Sorry, busy day, I probably didn't make much sense.

I imagine the SD card reader is connected via an USB interface internally. As such, going with 3.1 gives plenty of theoretical bandwidth to cover technology upgrades in SD cards over the life span of the new Macbook Pro laptops.

So what I was badly trying to say - and perhaps I misunderstood the context - is that a TB3 USB-C port doesn't buy more future proofing than a USB 3.1 SD card slot, for this particular use.

In my mind these new laptops should have had 2xUSB-C (TB3), 2xUSB-A (USB 3.1) and a fast SD card reader, to be considered well equipped for professional use.

Now, I did order one since what my focus is the fastest 4 core, fastest SSD and as good portability as a 15" laptop can provide.

However, if my previous Macbook was something I ordered gladly, because it was clearly the best, this one made me research for several days, and I'm still not sure I made the right choice. Worst of all, I think it's poor value for money.

Next time I suspect it won't be a Macbook, given Apple's recent track record.
 
Duane Martin said:
It is a shame you are too young to remember the release of the original Mac Pro. It would give you both a laugh at the "sky is falling" postings plus some comfort, too.
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My dear friend I have been around a lot longer than Apple never mind the Mac Pro!
 
symphara said:
Sorry, busy day, I probably didn't make much sense.

I imagine the SD card reader is connected via an USB interface internally. As such, going with 3.1 gives plenty of theoretical bandwidth to cover technology upgrades in SD cards over the life span of the new Macbook Pro laptops.

So what I was badly trying to say - and perhaps I misunderstood the context - is that a TB3 USB-C port doesn't buy more future proofing than a USB 3.1 SD card slot, for this particular use.

In my mind these new laptops should have had 2xUSB-C (TB3), 2xUSB-A (USB 3.1) and a fast SD card reader, to be considered well equipped for professional use.

Now, I did order one since what my focus is the fastest 4 core, fastest SSD and as good portability as a 15" laptop can provide.

However, if my previous Macbook was something I ordered gladly, because it was clearly the best, this one made me research for several days, and I'm still not sure I made the right choice. Worst of all, I think it's poor value for money.

Next time I suspect it won't be a Macbook, given Apple's recent track record.
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Makes sense now! Thanks for the clarification.

I ordered it, too. I would have ordered it with the suggestioned ports you mentioned, as well. I was ordering it either way. ( though, if it did not have at least one thunderbolt 3 port, I would have passed). I am not that bothered by dongles with USB-C because I have used adapters for my CF cards forever, but I would not mind having the SD slot for extra -in laptop- storage.
 
Soccertess said:
OMG! You are right! Apple didn't drop it's price because everyone was screaming, they did it once in the past, and everything i said is completely WRONG!!

I'm impressed you found that press release, do you work for Apple under the Dongle head himself? If so, he would tell you that this move was done to stop the massive outcry. Are you trying to say that the price drop has nothing to do with the public outcry? Is this more corporate BS and spin?
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I'm just pointing out that Apple DOES have a history of quickly reducing prices on things. As for how I found that specific press release, it's called google. You might want to look into it. As for how I knew that they lowered the price on that (and several other occasions), I was an original iPhone owner, and remembered that they lowered the price (and then gave me a credit for the difference). Not the last time that happened, either.

As for "massive outcry," you have a very distorted view of the relevance of forums.macrumors.com in the general public.
 
gnasher729 said:
It's a minority of iPhone 7 users who are using a Mac. It's a tiny minority of iPhone 7 users who have a new MacBook or will have one soon. And an even smaller minority if iPhone 7 users who have just a new MacBook and nothing else. "Everyone else" is the huge majority.
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Sure but I would dare a guess that a majority of Macbook Pro customers already own an iPhone 7.
 
There's only one way to become the richest company in the world: You've got to be the greediest company in the world. They go hand & hand.
 
It is? I suggest you look at the numbers.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/16...ks-to-5th-place-amid-worldwide-sales-slowdown

Mac 128 said:
And since PC market share is declining and Mac rising, just what percentage of those PCs do you figure apply to Android or iPhone users? I'd argue at least for the next year, not enough to inconvenience the 200 million iPhone 7 customers.

Amazon has USB-C to Lightning cables for $10. They have USB-C to A adapters for less than $5. I'd suggest you buy your cables and adapters from somebody other than Apple.



It will likely happen when there's a large enough installed USB-C customer base to marginally support the iPhone user base. So at least a year if not two. But if the iPhone 8 debuts next year, then probably with that.
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MacRumors said:



To make it easier for customers who purchased a new MacBook Pro to make the transition to USB-C, Apple has dropped the prices on all of its USB-C adapters by $6 to $20.

The simple USB-C to USB Adapter, formerly priced at $19, is now $9, while the more expensive USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter, formerly $49, is now available for $29. Even Apple's newly released Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter has seen a price drop from $49 to $29.

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A full list of prices on the adapters in the United States is below:

- USB-C to USB Adapter - Was $19, now $9
- Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter - Was $49, now $29
- USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter - Was $69, now $49
- USB-C VGA Multiport Adapter - Was $69, now $49
- USB-C to Lightning Cable (1m) - Was $25, now $19
- USB-C to Lightning Cable (2m) - Was $35, now $29

Apple is also dropping the prices on all third-party USB-C peripherals available from Apple,com and Apple retail stores. USB-C accessories will be discounted by about 25 percent, with some accessories, such as SanDisk's USB-C SD card reader, seeing a steeper $20 discount, dropping the price from $49 to $29.

Apple's price cut on USB-C adapters and accessories may assuage customers who have been dissatisfied with the high price of the MacBook Pro coupled with the need to buy a wide range of adapters to use the new notebook with older peripherals. Apple's lower prices also make its adapters more competitive with the wide range of third-party adapters available on the market. Apple explained the pricing cut in a statement that was given to The Verge:Apple did not mention a solution for customers who have already purchased adapters to use alongside their new MacBook Pros, but recent purchases can still be returned to the Apple Store and repurchased at the new lower price.

Update: According to MacRumors reader Philip, Apple will refund the price difference for customers who have already purchased adapters for their MacBook Pros. Customers who still have orders pending will also automatically see a price drop.

Article Link: Apple Drops Prices on USB-C Adapters
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those adapters should be free!! and then if you want a replacement.. buy it
 
junkstory said:
If Apple shipped a beautiful USB-C hub like this along the new Macbook Pro, I doubt anyone would complain a single word. It would appease both the new adopters and the current pro users and ease the transition.

This one is made by Hyper, and I would recommend it to anyone who bought the new MBP.
https://www.hypershop.com/collections/usb-type-c

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The real concern is that (for those who need a new macbook pro to make a living at least) even if Apple should throw in such adapters, the new macbook pro is incompatible with many USB-A and even many USB-C peripherals such as external displays, hard drives, etc. Its essentially unreliable, and there is no way of knowing whether peripherals you rely for work will be compatible with the new mac.

 
MacRumors said:



To make it easier for customers who purchased a new MacBook Pro to make the transition to USB-C, Apple has dropped the prices on
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formerly priced at $19, is now $9, while the more expensive USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter, formerly $49, is now available for $29. Even Apple's newly released Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter has seen a price drop from $49 to $29.

newadapterprices-800x376.jpg

A full list of prices on the adapters in the United States is below:

- USB-C to USB Adapter - Was $19, now $9
- Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter - Was $49, now $29
- USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter - Was $69, now $49
- USB-C VGA Multiport Adapter - Was $69, now $49
- USB-C to Lightning Cable (1m) - Was $25, now $19
- USB-C to Lightning Cable (2m) - Was $35, now $29

Apple is also dropping the prices on all third-party USB-C peripherals available from Apple,com and Apple retail stores. USB-C accessories will be discounted by about 25 percent, with some accessories, such as SanDisk's USB-C SD card reader, seeing a steeper $20 discount, dropping the price from $49 to $29.

Apple's price cut on USB-C adapters and accessories may assuage customers who have been dissatisfied with the high price of the MacBook Pro coupled with the need to buy a wide range of adapters to use the new notebook with older peripherals. Apple's lower prices also make its adapters more competitive with the wide range of third-party adapters available on the market. Apple explained the pricing cut in a statement that was given to The Verge:Apple did not mention a solution for customers who have already purchased adapters to use alongside their new MacBook Pros, but recent purchases can still be returned to the Apple Store and repurchased at the new lower price.

Update: According to MacRumors reader Philip, Apple will refund the price difference for customers who have already purchased adapters for their MacBook Pros. Customers who still have orders pending will also automatically see a price drop.

Article Link: Apple Drops Prices on USB-C Adapters
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Elbon said:
The last time I bought a Mac laptop (in 2010), it cost me $2,499 for the baseline 15". The baseline 15" MBP is now $2,399. I honestly have no idea why everyone is complaining about the prices. From what I can tell, they have gone down!
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SeattleMoose said:
Apple motto:

1998 - Think Different
2016 - So much more for so much less
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Ain't gonna buy these dongles (whether they are $1000, 100, 10, or 1) so skipping the MBP's.
Stick my iPhone 7 into a .... PC !!!??? or skip that either.
Bye, Dagobert Cook.
Every time he gets more excited, I get more bored.
Lunatic reigning from a spaceship
 
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Don't forget to get a bag for all your dongles. I bet next year, they'll get rid of that ancient headphone port and offer you another USB-C to 3.5mm headphone jack, like they offer for their iphone. Oh the courage...

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Pootmatoot said:
Ummm... many, many professionals prefer to get 100gb/s when docked...

We need to do more than stream Netflix.
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Damn I'm happy my home network has a 40gbps backbone and here you are saying pros prefer 100? What pros? Enterprises are still running 10 and 40gbps
 
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