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A price drop on the new MacBook Pro itself would have been a great way to help people move to the latest technology and peripherals, as well as accelerate the growth of this new ecosystem.

I *might* buy a used 2016 MBP in 2018 where the seller throws in the adapters. Currently, the MBPs are 1) not "pro" in performance, 2) Way over-priced ($1500 for dual core?!?!!). As I shake my head in disbelief, Microsoft Surface products are class leading.:confused:
 
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Reread. This thread is about the MBP, not the iPhone. I did not suggest that Apple should ship a USB-C-to-Lightning cable with the iPhone. It should, however, ship one with the MBP.

And where's your statistics to support that?

How many MBP users buying a new MBP this year use an iPhone? If 99% then maybe you have a point. And of those who do, how many actually plug their iPhone into it? I do use an iPhone and haven't plugged mine into my MBP for at least two years.

It makes no sense to ship a cable with a product that most of the users don't need. But I also don't think Apple should have included a mere $9 3.5mm adapter with the iPhone 7 either as it only encourages behavior that Apple doesn't want. And they don't want you plugging your iPhone into your Mac either, which is exactly why I haven't for almost 2 years -- actually not so much because Apple doesn't want me to, but because they made it so much more convenient for me not to. And frankly, I'd rather not use a port on my Mac to charge my iPhone.
 
As many have said, it's a start but they really should have included a USB-C to USB-A adapter for free in the box. Ideally they should have included a 4 port USB 3.0 with A connector dock with USB-C connector for free. It would likely cost them about $20 max and more than amply covered by the price increase of this generation of MBP.

They should have left the ports on the damn machine.

As I've posted before, a raspberry pi has mini-sd, hdmi, 4 usb, and audio jack and the whole damn machine costs $40 bucks. The cost for Apple to add these ports at their purchasing volume is likely less than $5 per machine. The software already supports the ports, so no spend there either. So what, EXACTLY, was the driver for this completely insulting decision? Thinness? Courage? What a joke.

I want ports on my PRO machine. I want it thick. I want a stupidly long lasting battery.
 
I get the move to a standardized connector, and I was using adapters for a monitor anyway.

But the absence of an SD slot is a dealbreaker for me. I have one of the most advanced cameras available today and wireless transmission of photos is still very challenging and hogs precious camera battery life.

No chance I am going to be charged with bringing a freaking adapter with me on the road to edit photos.

***I also relied on the SD drive for backup storage. Which is now impossible, and I have a feeling part of the reason Apple nixed the port - to force buyers to upgrade memory at the point of purchase.***

I'll prob pick up the last gen 13" MBP and wait it out.
 
USB a is legacy port, but it wasn't legacy enough to stop the iPhone team from shipping a usb a cord.

I would have assumed apple would have enough courage to ship a usb c cord with the iPhone.

Its not like everyone will upgrade their macbooks, most ppl wait 3+ years between buying computers, so it would be stupid to ship the iphone with usbc cable since most are on computers with old usb ports still, also many iphone users doesnt use mac computers, so make sense to sell that cable on its own.

Maby next year they include both cables

Would be nice if owners of iphones that also buy the new macbook could walk into a apple store and get that cable free atleast..
 
crap that that Apple embraces USB-C on macs, but still forces lightning port on the phones when the standard for all new phones is in fact, USB-C.

Agree completely. It doesn't seem to make sense for Apple either. If they moved to a USB-C port on the iPhone, then you have the possibility of physical devices that connect directly to the phone and the Mac (or other computers). What those might be - who knows. Hard drives that aren't limited by Wifi/BT bandwidth - high-end cameras that use the iPhone as a "live display device" - who knows?

I'd imagine a device manufacturer would be more likely to use an open standard like USB-C than a closed and (more importantly) relatively small market standard of Lightning. Though maybe that's different now, since the difference between a Lightning and USB-C interface is likely literally a single plug and a single chip.

The only real advantage for Apple is it's another cable to sell (and a very high-margin one at that). Has anyone out there made a off-brand Lightning/USB-A/C cable that will work reliably? And given that Apple's cables seem prone to "splitting-plastic-disease", this is probably a (relatively - perhaps) big money-maker for them. (Is this intentional? "CableGate" anyone?)

The "plastic disease" seems more common with their power cables (due to thermal stress? Or "electromagnetic stress"??), but I'm sure happens with Lightning/USB-A/C cables too. With the power cables, it's *stupid* for Apple too - they have to replace an entire power brick, instead of simply replacing a single friggin' cable! (Which is more cost for them, and makes more e-waste. So much for "environmental Apple")

The two advantages that Lighting might have over USB-C is 1) it might be thinner (in terms of it's receptacle on the device), and 2) with Lightning you (might) have a smaller "part of the cable" that actually plugs *into* the device. (? that's not really clear.. With Lightning, the contacts on the cable are all on the "inside", rather than having a void on the inside of the cable like USB-A)

What Apple should have done (if they had been "on the ball" when the USB-C spec was being hashed out) was push for USB-C to have a magnetic locking option of some kind. That might or might not be possible. The contacts might have been smaller and they'd have to be "exposed" (perpendicular to the axis of the cable) which might create electrical problems (dust, etc).

Maybe it could be a "Magnetic Lightning plug" type cable so the contacts would be longer and parallel to the cable-axis instead (then you might have fingerprint problems). (Would be a *great* advertising term as well!). The magnets might interfere electrically though. (Time to move to optical! Yeah right - maybe in 5-15 years when we can make optical fibers cheaply out of carbon nanotubes.)

The magnets would probably have to be on the (lengthwise) "edges" of the plug, if you didn't have the "Magnetic Lightning" plug. The plug is too thin to have them be all along the width. That might mean that the magnets would have too be so strong to keep the cable attached at all that the "MagSafe" quality of the thing is lost completely (the "well, it's so light it'll fall off the table anyway" argument for removing MagSafe)

And doesn't MS have some patent that would be involved? Grr. Design patents that actually *hinder* "progress of the arts and sciences" Apple could bit the bullet and cross-license something with their arch-enemy. Maybe Apple could give Microsoft their "rectangle patent" so they can keep making.. well, everything.. (without fear of being "sued over a rectangle")
 
If one reviews my posts, I am not the one who defends Apple.

I like the new MacBook Pro, ordered the 15" maxed out.
4 Thunderbolt ports are a dream, we can do everything we want to do and don't need to carry useless ports (sd-card, old USB, slow HDMI 1.0, display-port) or a dock around.
To connect to a peripheral we need a cable, if it's a displayport to displayport or if it's a thunderbolt 3 to displayport ... who cares. If i want to connect a beamer I use a thunderbolt 3/usb-c to VGA cable instead of hdmi to VGA cable, no problem.
We have now after a long time of wait a beautiful, powerful Mac equipped with the best parts around (newest ssd, newest skylake 4-core processors, thunderbolt 3 with 4 ports). The fingerprint sensor is great. There is no touch screen, that hurts a little bit. If the OLED bar is useful we will see.
 
USB a is legacy port, but it wasn't legacy enough to stop the iPhone team from shipping a usb a cord.

I would have assumed apple would have enough courage to ship a usb c cord with the iPhone.

Sames goes for the jack plug, legacy on iPhone not so much on the Macbook Pro.

As other's have stated if Apple's greed for every last dollar hadn't gotten ahead of them and they'd thought heck let's include a hub to help our customers through the transitional process everyone would be proclaiming them as a forward looking company. Not Apple under Tim.
 
WHY do I need to carry adapters at all? If they know people are going to use HDMI, etc... just include the ports IN the computer itself. HDMI and USB 3.0 Type A aren't, AREN'T obsolete!
 
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WHY do I need to carry adapters at all? If they know people are going to use HDMI, etc... just include the ports IN the computer itself. HDMI and USB 3.0 Type A aren't, AREN'T obsolete!

They are if you are a multimillionaire living in Cupertino, who works for the largest tech company in the world. That is how Apple now define the word 'pro'.
 
If one reviews my posts, I am not the one who defends Apple.

I like the new MacBook Pro, ordered the 15" maxed out.
4 Thunderbolt ports are a dream, we can do everything we want to do and don't need to carry useless ports (sd-card, old USB, slow HDMI 1.0, display-port) or a dock around.
To connect to a peripheral we need a cable, if it's a displayport to displayport or if it's a thunderbolt 3 to displayport ... who cares. If i want to connect a beamer I use a thunderbolt 3/usb-c to VGA cable instead of hdmi to VGA cable, no problem.
We have now after a long time of wait a beautiful, powerful Mac equipped with the best parts around (newest ssd, newest skylake 4-core processors, thunderbolt 3 with 4 ports). The fingerprint sensor is great. There is no touch screen, that hurts a little bit. If the OLED bar is useful we will see.

That's a difference between theory and reality. In theory everything goes exactly like you said. In reality you need to bust a cable if someone hands you a thumb drive, you can't use most of the TB3 devices already on market and I suspect when bandwidth in one port fills up other ports won't be up to their potential.

As far as the ports go, yes they come and go all of them except the two: HDMI and Ethernet. Sony had a neat trick by utilizing Ethernet port on the AC adapter, I think that was very clever as you could have multifunction charging port. Macbook could have easily had HDMI port because hardware is already there inside integrated GPU, this way they actually had to bypass it, go to TB controller and then come back at GPU
 
Club 3D USB-C to HDMI 2.0 Adapter CAC-1504 works well on my Dell Precision 5510 without any Problem (4k 60Hz).

I do not use the HDMI Port of the Precision because it is only 4k 30Hz - it is a worthless port I have to carry around ...

There is also a Belkin USB-C to Gigabit ethernet adapter - no change to the old macbook pro.

That's a difference between theory and reality. In theory everything goes exactly like you said. In reality you need to bust a cable if someone hands you a thumb drive, you can't use most of the TB3 devices already on market and I suspect when bandwidth in one port fills up other ports won't be up to their potential.

As far as the ports go, yes they come and go all of them except the two: HDMI and Ethernet. Sony had a neat trick by utilizing Ethernet port on the AC adapter, I think that was very clever as you could have multifunction charging port. Macbook could have easily had HDMI port because hardware is already there inside integrated GPU, this way they actually had to bypass it, go to TB controller and then come back at GPU
 
I just bought the MacBook Pro 15" 2.2 ghz (mid 2015) last week. I just wanted a workhorse that was not too pricey. I decided that the 15" 2016 was just too "out of my price range" to purchase at this point. Hope I have made the right decision. Am loving how this complements my 12" 2015 MacBook.
 
It's cheaper just not to buy a Macbook Pro.

Why even call it Pro anyways? Nobody wants to deal with dongle hell.

I didn't buy a iPhone 7 and i'm not buying a new Macbook Pro.

Apple is fashion company. I will be building a Hackintosh for my next computer.

Tim Cook has ruined the company. Pros should really look elsewhere.
 
Apple should really include some of these in the box. It would definitely make the transition less jarring.

Not really. missed the target completely. So happy I bought the old model. Unfortunately, I see the writing is on the wall for future apple laptops..

And apparently their own "best ever iPhone(Tm)" also needs an expensive dongle to connect to their "best ever Macbook Pro(Tm)". I bet all the new iPhone purchasers really love hearing that their iPhone has a "legacy" connector..
 
Let me fix that for you
"We recognize that many users, especially pros, rely on legacy connectors... We want to help them move to the latest technology and peripherals...So at the end of the year, we are raising prices on all USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 peripherals we sell, as well as the prices on Apple's USB-C adapters and cables."
 
Dual core, 16Gb,
If one reviews my posts, I am not the one who defends Apple.

I like the new MacBook Pro, ordered the 15" maxed out.
4 Thunderbolt ports are a dream, we can do everything we want to do and don't need to carry useless ports (sd-card, old USB, slow HDMI 1.0, display-port) or a dock around.
To connect to a peripheral we need a cable, if it's a displayport to displayport or if it's a thunderbolt 3 to displayport ... who cares. If i want to connect a beamer I use a thunderbolt 3/usb-c to VGA cable instead of hdmi to VGA cable, no problem.
We have now after a long time of wait a beautiful, powerful Mac equipped with the best parts around (newest ssd, newest skylake 4-core processors, thunderbolt 3 with 4 ports). The fingerprint sensor is great. There is no touch screen, that hurts a little bit. If the OLED bar is useful we will see.
Then tell us how many of the 4 futuristic USB-C ports you'd trade in for something current ...
 
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That's a difference between theory and reality. In theory everything goes exactly like you said. In reality you need to bust a cable if someone hands you a thumb drive, you can't use most of the TB3 devices already on market and I suspect when bandwidth in one port fills up other ports won't be up to their potential.

As far as the ports go, yes they come and go all of them except the two: HDMI and Ethernet. Sony had a neat trick by utilizing Ethernet port on the AC adapter, I think that was very clever as you could have multifunction charging port. Macbook could have easily had HDMI port because hardware is already there inside integrated GPU, this way they actually had to bypass it, go to TB controller and then come back at GPU

USB-C outputs HDMI natively. Look for new TVs and media equipment to come with USB-C ports in the near future, dropping HDMI completely eventually.

Most people don't use Ethernet on their MacBooks. If they did Apple would have never removed it. But I also expect to see Ethernet natively output from USB-C such that most corporate offices update all of their hard wired Ethernet connections with USB-C cables.

While it's a problem for some now, it won't be in a few years -- at least no worse than the laptop user who still has to plug into VGA regularly.
 
This is pure damage control for a poorly designed Macbook...

Fastest apple product growing category….Adaptors.

Discounting the price is a lame excuse for a bad MAcbook design.

So bad… you cannot connect your own iPhone-iPad…
It is so Pro that it is limited to 16gb Ram…??

They should fire Schiller or whomever designed this…overpriced and underperform…no connectivity case...

And it's full of bugs too! It will loose connection with wifi when connecting a device with USB C. YouTube is full of it. I'm wondering how Apple will react. Even Samsung is pulling defective devices of the market.

 
Dual core, 16Gb,

Then tell us how many of the 4 futuristic USB-C ports you'd trade in for something current ...

non -

1. power it is easier to live with one power adaper
2. hdmi 2.0 may be later something like the razer core
3. thunderbolt 3 ssd
4. gigabit ethernet may be later 10GB ethernet

will be happy with these flexible ports, bthw. we can probaly use the 87 usb-c power adapter also for the ipad pro (mine is charging with it) and the iphone (needs to be tested)
 



To make it easier for customers who purchased a new MacBook Pro to make the transition to USB-C, Apple has dropped the prices on all of its USB-C adapters by $6 to $20.

The simple USB-C to USB Adapter, formerly priced at $19, is now $9, while the more expensive USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter, formerly $69, is now available for $49. Even Apple's newly released Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter has seen a price drop from $49 to $29.

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A full list of prices on the adapters in the United States is below:

- USB-C to USB Adapter - Was $19, now $9
- Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter - Was $49, now $29
- USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter - Was $69, now $49
- USB-C VGA Multiport Adapter - Was $69, now $49
- USB-C to Lightning Cable (1m) - Was $25, now $19
- USB-C to Lightning Cable (2m) - Was $35, now $29

Apple is also dropping the prices on all third-party USB-C peripherals available from Apple,com and Apple retail stores. USB-C accessories will be discounted by about 25 percent, with some accessories, such as SanDisk's USB-C SD card reader, seeing a steeper $20 discount, dropping the price from $49 to $29.

Apple's price cut on USB-C adapters and accessories may assuage customers who have been dissatisfied with the high price of the MacBook Pro coupled with the need to buy a wide range of adapters to use the new notebook with older peripherals. Apple's lower prices also make its adapters more competitive with the wide range of third-party adapters available on the market. Apple explained the pricing cut in a statement that was given to The Verge:Apple did not mention a solution for customers who have already purchased adapters to use alongside their new MacBook Pros, but recent purchases can still be returned to the Apple Store and repurchased at the new lower price.

Update: According to MacRumors reader Philip, Apple will refund the price difference for customers who have already purchased adapters for their MacBook Pros. Customers who still have orders pending will also automatically see a price drop.

Article Link: Apple Drops Prices on USB-C Adapters
 
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