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Single 1.8 was in an odd place anyway. It didn't get upgraded along w/ the rest of the line last time and at $1499 the iMac w/ the better graphics card is a much better value.
 
Looks like they just dropped the prices across the line. A dual 2 is $1999 now.
 
An eMac G5 would be interesting but remember the eMac is all about cutting corners to give the lowest price possible...

I mean to keep the price down it's got a G4 processor, a CRT screen, an Ultra ATA drive (not Serial ATA) and is only capable of having 1GB of RAM.

And it probably would kill off some iMac sales. Price drops and bumps on the G4 seem more realistic, at least for now anyway... But you never know!!
 
corywoolf said:
Can anyone say 1.6 and 1.8 ghz G5 mac mini's? I think we will see an update to mac mini's and ibooks. The high end mac mini will sort of take the place of the 1.8 Ghz powermac single G5. Except for the upgradability. I think the single G5 powermac was hardly being bought by the public, it was mostly for educational facilities. The average consumer wouldn't think twice about buying the imac over the single G5 powermac. They are about the same price and the imac comes with a 20" display and airport extreme, etc. They should have made the superdrive standard by now. And for ibooks, maybe a slimmer sexier version with a speed bump. I don't think apple should care at this point about having the ibooks as fast as the pwoerbooks, because they might as well get as fast of processors out of the G4/ G5 before switching to intel. The professional user doesn't want to buy a mac right now unless it is a must have because of the switch to intel. Not too many people are going to buy powerbooks right now, so why not temporarly have the ibook as fast as the powerbook. If apple can find a way to get awsome battery life and make the ibook lighter, then it will sell better. I really don't see how apple can do much with its line of portables until they switch to intel. I can't believe it is going to take an entire year until the first intel based mac comes out. I know the software is the main issue, but apple is going to lose a lot of money over this year.

I doubt we'd see a G5 mini - If they can't get it into the laptop line, I don't see how they could possibly fit it into the mini...
 
Realistic. Hah.

We were all talking about what is more realistic and whatnot when we all read the Intel rumors, saying that it wouldn't happen or that it's not practical, or that it's not realistic.

Sure enough....
 
Not very good at all. It now makes the Power Mac desktop more expensive to buy than ever before, so more consumers are now shifting away from Mac to PC. Compare between a $500 PC with monitor versus a $2000 Apple desktop without monitor. A PC is defintely a much better bargain here :).



Walter Chan
 
waltchan said:
Not very good at all. It now makes the Power Mac desktop more expensive to buy than ever before, so more consumers are now shifting away from Mac to PC. Compare between a $500 PC with monitor versus a $2000 Apple desktop without monitor. A PC is defintely a much better bargain here :).
Yes, I strongly agree. I'm going out tomorrow to buy a PC and a copy of Mac OS X for Intel.
 
Good move by Apple here I think. If you're looking at the Powermacs you shouldn't be "bargain huning" anyway. A Single CPU G5 PM was basically an iMac G5.
 
miloblithe said:
The nicest upgrade (other than the graphics card)

Naaa the nicest upgrade and easiest would be a 7200 RPM drive as an upgrade option with 5400 RPM as standard. Seriously. Spotlight is more then a little poky on a 4800 RPM. But other then that yah. Soddered 512 with an open slot would rock.
 
One problem with that

Jo-Kun said:
hmmz still here in belgium...

but since that one didn't got a rev... Its no surprise if they would remove it...

if I would need a single proc G5 for that money I would buy me a new iMac...

in the store: it still has the 'older' graphics options with ADC & DVI no BTO 400GB SATA drives possible, its a 8x superdrive, standard with modem...

The only problem with buying the iMac is that you can't do DUAL monitors (except mirroring). This is the one and only thing I HATE about iMacs. I'm still considering one for the next month, but I'd go with a real desktop computer, if my wife didn't want the iMac so much. It's really to bad Apple does this.
 
mymemory said:
Always remember, I was the one telling Apple was in troubles with the G5, the G5 is not such fast processor, is way overrated.
B.S.

The G5 is an awesome chip - it's just a big power sucker/space heater. I'd bet that Apple would be sticking by it if IBM had a roadmap for future enhancements including a low-power version for the laptops. (since that's pretty much what Jobs said in the keynote)

I'm glad Apple is going to Intel, but it's not because the PowerPC is "overrated."
 
Sure, and I just barely bought a new iMac 17" superdrive 30 minutes ago. I have an external LCD I use with my PB right now, I was planning on (and still am now) selling the screen to hep pay for the iMac. I don't think I will feel so bad though even if they update the mini this week of the next. I wanted more power and the iMac came with a bigger GPU and wireless built-in. And with the extra $100 coupon, it is an even better deal for me.
 
according to nostradamus.. the rev b. mac mini will come standard with 512 mb ram, the old imac g5 video card (64mb i believe), and a 1.5ghz and 1.67ghz g4. done, possibly wireless built in.
 
waltchan said:
Not very good at all. It now makes the Power Mac desktop more expensive to buy than ever before, so more consumers are now shifting away from Mac to PC. Compare between a $500 PC with monitor versus a $2000 Apple desktop without monitor. A PC is defintely a much better bargain here :).



Walter Chan

If you think a $500 PC is on the same level as a dual 2GHz Power Mac G5, there is a big problem. The dual 2GHz Power Mac G5 is a high-end workstation not a everyday home computer. That is why it has a $2000 price tag.
 
waltchan said:
Not very good at all. It now makes the Power Mac desktop more expensive to buy than ever before, so more consumers are now shifting away from Mac to PC. Compare between a $500 PC with monitor versus a $2000 Apple desktop without monitor. A PC is defintely a much better bargain here :).

Oh please, what are you talking about? Apparently you have no clue.
 
Yes, but that's ok because:

carlos700 said:
If you think a $500 PC is on the same level as a dual 2GHz Power Mac G5, there is a big problem. The dual 2GHz Power Mac G5 is a high-end workstation not a everyday home computer. That is why it has a $2000 price tag.

Yeah, but the $500 PC can support dual monitors. You have to pay at least $2000 to get dual monitor support on a Mac desktop. Sometimes people want a low-medium horsepower computer with large screen real estate. Word processing, spreadsheets, basic drawings, web surfing are just fine on the Mini or on a $500 PC. However, OS X would be a better choice due to OS workflow advantages over the PC. But since many people (myself included) can't afford or aren't willing to pay $2000+ (my reason) just to have dual monitor support, Apple is losing even more customers. This is the single SUCKIEST feature problem with the iMac. It was, IMHO, why the few people that did buy single 1.8's did so.

It wasn't the PCI slots. It was dual monitor support. Period.
 
For those that think everyone is running out to go buy a p.c. now, go check Amazon's top sellers, Apple's been up there for a while now. :rolleyes:
 
Amazon

tex210 said:
For those that think everyone is running out to go buy a p.c. now, go check Amazon's top sellers, Apple's been up there for a while now. :rolleyes:


Hey, I'm an Apple fan (have and do own several Macs) and all, but people have to realize something about Mac sales and Amazon.com. People buy Macs from amazon for 2 reasons:

1. They do have good deals.

2. IMHO people want to support them because they are a nationwide retailer that sells Macs. Once they put up their "TOP 10", people want to keep it that way. That's probably why Macs are on top at Amazon. It's not the case at other retailers (online or brick & mortar).

The "top 10" best sellers is the reason a disproportionate percentage of Macs are sold through Amazon.com.
 
Single 1.8 can't play full HD-H.264

According to Apple's Quicktime recommendation page:
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/hdgallery/recommendations.html

The single 1.8G can't play a full HD/264 stream, which is possibly an embarassment for Apple, if they're aiming these machines at creative professionals working on this sort of media.

I think Apple are soon going to launch some sort of HD on demand service, and it'll be important to them that there's no confusion - 'ALL OUR POWERMACS PLAY FULL HD' or something like that...
 
waltchan said:
Not very good at all. It now makes the Power Mac desktop more expensive to buy than ever before, so more consumers are now shifting away from Mac to PC. Compare between a $500 PC with monitor versus a $2000 Apple desktop without monitor. A PC is defintely a much better bargain here :)
Right, just like Dell won't be able to sell any $4000 Precisions because they also sell $299 Dimensions. :rolleyes:
 
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