If you need some Windows software, run it inside VMware's Fusion. This allows you to run XP, Win 7, BSD or whatever you like.
not when it comes to apple's pro strategy. youre asking them to support a scenario (Windows 7, non-virtualized) that doesnt fit a wide use case. that some of you are gamers and simply want it doesnt mean bo-diddly, because thats not the use case the MP is marketed for.
Hurting/benefiting whom? Apple or consumers? Do you have enough information to offer an intelligent opinion?
Desupport of windows 7 is only applicable (for now) to late 2013 Mac Pros. So yeah, of the 35 who want to buy a new Mac Pro, they no longer have the option to boot into windows 7 though I suppose parallels and vmware would still be an option. But considering only 12 of those people care about windows 7...
We're a software house that does major banking and financial institution backends.
we have moved to VM's for some things where the overhead doesn't impact. We're not an SQL house. We use Progress software, which runs in a very different manner. its extremely IO intensive and absolutely takes a hit via virtualization. For example, these database system tend to run a lot of system code directly connected to the databases shared memory and can be extremely RAM and CPU intensive.
What I'm just trying to say is that it's not simple, especially in a Professional environment, that this workstation is aiming ftowards to jsut throw a blanket statement like "just vitualize it". that is NOT always the suitable solution.
Even as a Windows fan, I wouldn't use Windows 8 if they paid me. It's a shame that Apple's dropping Windows 7 now, as this likely means future MacBooks won't support it either.
yup. its faster and snappier than windows 7. there is literally not a single reason to choose win 7 over win 8.
I think the issue is that windows 8 adds basically zero redeeming features while being buggier and more of a resource hog than windows 7.
Aside the user interface; lack of basic functionality. Invasive GUI; perverse Desktop experience?
There are multiple reasons why you should NOT use Windows 8 & once more; the rest of the planet agree.
Windows 8 is going down in the history books as another ME, Vista Microsoft release. 9 will see the return of traditional desktop computing.
But I do think that those affected have a right to complain if they want to. Even if they are a small minority. Being inconvenienced it being inconvenienced.
9 will see the return of traditional desktop computing.
Is anyone still using Windows? Like seriously?
Everyone I know is either using mobile devices like an iPhone or iPad, Retina MacBooks, with a few iMacs thrown into the mix. Literally everyone I know who were Windows users has given up on that platform. Windows 8 was the final straw for a lot of people.
ive updated my orig post to remove "SQL" and replace w/ "data". i work for a household-name energy company and we have an immense amount of time-series data, but as ive posted on another reply this data lives in our servers (not somebody's MP). these servers are virtualized running atop blade servers...yes you may lose some performance in VM over standard, but the fact that you can hot-swap failed drives or throw more hardware resources at a bottlenecked server eliminates that shortcoming.
fair, but the discussion you & i are having (server farms) is slightly different than the one here (MP not supporting Win7 natively). nobody is dependent on a MP workstation running in bootcamp to maintain their org's backend data structure....
I use windows all the time and don't mind Windows 8. Not sure why there is so much hatred for it.
Is anyone still using Windows? Like seriously?
Everyone I know is either using mobile devices like an iPhone or iPad, Retina MacBooks, with a few iMacs thrown into the mix. Literally everyone I know who were Windows users has given up on that platform. Windows 8 was the final straw for a lot of people.
Even as a Windows fan, I wouldn't use Windows 8 if they paid me. It's a shame that Apple's dropping Windows 7 now, as this likely means future MacBooks won't support it either.
Is anyone still using Windows? Like seriously?
Everyone I know is either using mobile devices like an iPhone or iPad, Retina MacBooks, with a few iMacs thrown into the mix. Literally everyone I know who were Windows users has given up on that platform. Windows 8 was the final straw for a lot of people.
Is anyone still using Windows? Like seriously?
Everyone I know is either using mobile devices like an iPhone or iPad, Retina MacBooks, with a few iMacs thrown into the mix. Literally everyone I know who were Windows users has given up on that platform. Windows 8 was the final straw for a lot of people.
Are you someone that has actually spent a considerable amount of time with OS X and Windows 8 and chose Windows 7 over both, or are you just someone who mostly has spent time in Windows 95 - 7 and have determined Windows 7 was the best of them?
I'm just curious what people see in it - I rarely find anyone who has actually spent time with OS X (or any *nix) and decided that Windows was better.
Care to explain Apple? Seriously people don't drop $3,000+ on computers so you can weed out the features you're too lazy to support. This pisses me off.
Who even has room for a Boot Camp partition on their SSD anyway? A VMware image is way more compact.
I expect it is part of some licensing agreement between Apple and Microsoft. Surely someone is going to post the instructions for installing Windows 7. I expect VMWare or Parallels will still support it.
For all 3 people out there who will buy this exotic mac in order to run windows exclusively: sorry, you have to run the latest version.