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Apple Drops Windows 7 Boot Camp Support in New Mac Pro
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You should also mention that Apple isn't actually actively selling MacOS X, while Windows 8 is a huge part of Microsoft's livelyhood. There is no doubt that Apple could easily double or triple MacOS X sales just by giving an OEM license to Dell, HP, Lenovo etc.
I highly doubt that it would triple. It would raise it, sure, but I doubt it would happen for any prolonged period. A lot of people use Windows because they know how to use it. Even Windows 8 takes less time to learn than relearning everything by moving to a completely different OS.
"oh and it has much better high DPI support. (7 just sucks in that aspect)"
Does this statement say more about where the new Mac Pro is headed than it does about dropping an older OS just for spite?
(Just a question - I know very little about Wndows graphics drivers)
Does this statement say more about where the new Mac Pro is headed than it does about dropping an older OS just for spite?
(Just a question - I know very little about Wndows graphics drivers)
My experience has been exactly the opposite (except for gaming).
I think Apple wants the userbase to get ready for Windows 8-style flat hybrid neon trendy translucent OS X.
There are dozens of reasons why that might be the case. With dozens and dozens of configurations, there will always be exceptions.
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The DPI thing isn't a drivers thing, it's a system thing. I doubt it says a lot about the Mac Pro as much as the way monitors are starting to head to. Huge resolutions are great, but sometimes you need to scale it a bit.
This seems like a reasonable decision. Every major PC manufacturer except HP doesn't sell computers with Windows 7. Win 8 is a stable and fast OS it's just infuriating to use for people who are used to using any other desktop OS ever.
I'd argue otherwise. OSX and Macs are glued together at the hip, and it's the combination of the two that makes the platform so appealing. Without a Mac to back it up, OSX would just be a particularly user friendly 'nix distro. Without OSX, a Mac would be nothing more than a higher end OEM machine.
I'd say OSX is as much a part of Apple's livelihood as the iPhone and iOS.
Apple's Professional Workstation product is targeted for OS X Professionals, not Microsoft Professionals.
You want to run windows then buy an iMac, Macbook Pro/MacBook Air or a Mac Mini. It's that simple.
The only system Apple runs FirePro GPGPUS is the Mac Pro. They are focusing on improving the Mac Pro OS X experience for Engineering, Physics, Motion Pictures, Animation, etc., running OS X.
You want to run windows then buy an iMac, Macbook Pro/MacBook Air or a Mac Mini. It's that simple.
The only system Apple runs FirePro GPGPUS is the Mac Pro. They are focusing on improving the Mac Pro OS X experience for Engineering, Physics, Motion Pictures, Animation, etc., running OS X.
But that's because no everyone has liked Windows since XP. I know many network admins that never considered Vista and still thought there would be migration issues with 7. That's why you could still buy XP (OEM for bulk purchase with your new computers). They couldn't stop supporting it.
My experience with Windows is that new versions say they support certain older configurations and then it really sucks as an experience. Apple has this occasionally, but they have it less since they generally just pull the plug. People aren't happy with Apple's choice, but they don't complain about the poor experience. Apple has really pulled the plug to soon and too often lately, IMHO.
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Apple is absolutely selling OS X. It is simply bundled. It isn't "Free", simply required.
So is OS X.
Far more on point is that all future upgrades/updates/etc are part of this initial bundled price. So if Apple is going to provide Mac Pro 2013 is going to provide support coverage for two MS OS major releases over the Mac Pro's service lifetime then Windows 8 & 9 probably have higher overlap than 7 & 8.
That is somewhat doubtful as an assertion. Supporting multiple OEMs would raise the OS R&D costs. For MS it isn't a big deal since they cover 90% of the legacy PC form factor market. It is easy to amortize that down to a relatively small amount.
Dell , HP , Lenovo systems boosted to be a parity pricing with Apple systems with the same hardware .... probably aren't going to boost sales dramatically. The "only licensed for Apple label systems" is going to have problems so piracy is going to go up.
Apple is neither simply a software or simply a hardware company. They are system company. Throwing that down the drain and engaging in a "Rob Peter to pay Paul" strategy isn't necessarily going to increase overall revenues or profits.
The 'Clone Wars' are over. Been over for a long time.
Considering their continued support for Windows 8, it seems Apple thinks otherwise.
And I hope it stays that way. We still remember what happened when Apple licensed clones in the 90s.Never happen with JI still at Apple.
Huh, have you used Windows pre-8 and 8 for any significant length of time? Switching from 7 to Mac is less of a step than re-learn the completely new Win 8 interface.
And that's why we see so many more people, statistically speaking, coming up at the help desk completely lost in Win 8. Win 8.1 has started reversing the destruction, but much remains to be done to rise back to Win 7 level.
What does the "corporate world" have to do with running Windows on Bootcamp on a Mac Pro? The corporate world does not reboot servers just to run a differerent application.
Yes, I used 98, ME, XP, Vista, 7, and now 8 (and obviously 8.1). After taking 15 minutes worth of time (5 of which was finding where they moved shutdown), I was using 8 just like 7.
If I understand correctly, this is just talking about the bootcamp assistant application. What's the big deal? I've never used BootCamp to install Windows. Its just x86 hardware. You can install whatever you want!
Read this as on new products. They typically only support the latest OS as long as there is a stable release. The next mini, air, and rmbp are likely to go the same way.
He sorta does have a point. One of the things I've never liked about Windows compared to other OSes is how convoluted the Control Panel is. It's all settings within settings within settings, and finding things can be a chore unless you know exactly what you're looking for.
Like setting up your own DNS server address. Do that in OSX, or any modern Linux distro using a decent shell, then compare it to what you have to do to find that field in Windows.
Network and Sharing Center>Change Adapter Settings>Doubleclick your listed network>click properties button>Scroll down to Internet Protocol Version 4 and doubleclick>...and there you go.
MS could really, really do with some streamlining here.