lmao, going back to a place of employment to work in person isn't asking much but whatever
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Apple Employees Asked to Return to Offices for Three Days a Week Starting in September
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In other words..."we really don't trust you and don't think you're working while at home".
To be fair, there are people who need to be at work. But for the rest of the people who can do their work at home, so what if they do something else - as long as they do the work they were hired to do, within the time they were advised to do, with the quality they are expected to perform.
To be fair, there are people who need to be at work. But for the rest of the people who can do their work at home, so what if they do something else - as long as they do the work they were hired to do, within the time they were advised to do, with the quality they are expected to perform.
I’ve been working remotely for over a decade. They let me because they know my worth. If they make me go back to the office, they will lose me, and they know it because I told them so over a decade ago. But whatever.
treating professionals as professionals
with the paycuts experienced last year, they can have these perks be part of the monetary aspect taken away
I work in automotive, working at Apple Campus quite literally would be a dream world.
Demanding? Yeah, ok? Lol, you certainly have to earn your way. This isn't a "fanboy wish", this is coming from someone who actually has to work outside everyday in the heat, get dirty, bring my own lunch, 9-5.
Apple campus has a freaking meditation room guys..
ill give you the benefit of the doubt but not everyone has the special skills that backs up your worth. you really think that many people that apple employ really do?
It’s also been shown that a person’s daily commute contributes highly to their overall happiness. It makes sense since that’s how most people start and end their days. If you have a ****** one hour traffic filled commute back and forth everyday, that could potentially affect your productivity through different ancillary ways. I had to ride the bus to work every day and had to be 10 minutes late to our morning meeting. The bus ride took 1.5 hours to get there, and before anyone says I should’ve have picked a closer home, I got the job working from home initially before there was even an office at all. I would still get b*tched at every now and then even after talking to the CEO to get approval to be late to the near useless morning meetings. That frustrated me to no end until I moved.
Yes, most people who make a cut to work at Apple absolutely are able to work from home independently. They hire pretty talented people. Those who advocate for everyone to report to the office are losers who have no discipline to work independently.
I’m not saying everyone can work from home. Obviously, teachers, doctors, grocery workers, automotive technicians, and hundreds of other occupations can’t work from home. However, engineers, computer programmers, etc. can and should be given an option to work from home with occasional visits to the office. Maybe once or twice a month. The companies who still don’t get it even after the pandemic will be losing their best talent, and they won’t even know what hit them.
Apple ( and others, Google, Microsoft, Amazon ) would be a great place to learn when starting out, until you realize that work life balance is important.
There's a reason why their campus's (spelling?) are so nice, with lots of amenities: they want their employees to stay working for longer.
I value work-life balance. While I enjoy my job, I also value life outside the workplace.
If HR did an about turn at our company, a lot of people would be leaving; they would not trust the company anymore, and that's something that people value: the trust. People resigning is both expensive and disruptive for the company. At the moment, here where I am, it's difficult to hire people, a lot of companies are looking, and can't fill vacant positions, it's quite competitive despite the pandemic.
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Nice, broad, sweeping generalization without substance.
The last year proved that most people can successfully work from home. Unfortunately, vice presidents and managers have to justify their existence. So we’ll see some push to get people people back into the office. But I think there will be enough competition for jobs that we won’t ever go completely back to how it was.
Kudos to you and your team, in my opinion that’s the way to go… we are in 2021 with all the comms and tech available to facilitate that, hands down me and my team are way faster and agile from home too, just had to skim through and avoid all the meetings suddenly placed by managers (hint: I stopped going to them, meetings about meetings are not my cup of tea).
We actually end up working a whole lot more though sadly, since there’s no clear cutoff hours at times… the nature of it I guess.
Forcing people to go because of a few existing bad actors or using the “we miss each other” phrases I find them a scapegoat… I don’t “miss each other” at least.
A couple of months after work from home started I decided to go all in and equip myself with the latest and the greatest available at the time. Have been buying software also to aid myself in work and personal projects (which now I have the time to sink time into by not commuting)… things that the company I work at I know won’t supply me, I can see them laughing at my face after I say: “hi, it would be great if I could have the same setup I have at home, it’s around $7K overall”.
I don’t think punishing employees with unnecessarily rougher working conditions and time expenditure is the way to go though. I think it could be open to a case by case basis in my opinion.
If your work doesn't require face-to-face interaction, then you should be able to have a choice.
Why? Did the "essential" workers who had to report to campus get any perks? No.
Wish I couldtake 30 min Netflix between meeting. Whenever I plan to take a short break, most of the times I fail miserably, and end up just running for a drink or bathroom break quickly before next meeting. If employees get a chance to binge watch Netflix all day, then potentially some serious WFR opportunities need to be analyzed.
Just the fact that you do not have a job that demands your full time or you don't manage yourself to be responsible for your work over your entertainment doesn't mean it is the same for others.....I recently had to lay off an employee that displayed lack of responsiveness and accountability, but for the most part most of my staff has been very appreciative to be able to continue working unaffected throughout the pandemic, and we plan to continue that way with a flexible environment.
LOTS of people really believed that all of the pandemic measures would continue forever.... They really did, and I think some politicians and business leaders kind of led them on to believe that. They are going to have a rough time coming to terms with reality....
Apple is very demanding and competitive. You have to live for the job, always over 100%, always putting in unpaid extra hours. It’s a little like going to Stanford, Harvard, Oxford or Cambridge and being at the top of your class all the time. It is hard, especially mentally. That’s why many students have mental issues there. Same for Apple. Sure, you can always stay at the bottom of the ladder to survive with the least effort, but who wants that?
Remember those old Jobs story of him dividing teams, fighting each other to push them to their limits? When people did excellent work one day and were on the brink of being fired the next? It’s not as bad as that, but similar. If anything, working there (or MS, Google, etc.) will be good to gain experience... and then go somewhere else.
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“more productive at home” is BS. It can be more productive in short stints such as a few days here and there, or even a single whole week. But long term, it is counterproductive and has a lasting impact on team cohesion and company culture.
Have been recently involved in assessing this for one of the top 20 largest companies in the USA. The long term effects are really beginning to manifest. Despite this, we are going back 3 days a week, but only out of caution of workplace outbreaks of additional viral strains. Additionally, we will be giving the option for WFH to a large set of employees it was not previously available to. I guess we are accepting the partial loss in productivity as we adjust workplace solutions.
Twist and turn it all you want, but there are almost 7.7 billion people in the world and you aren't as special as you make yourself out to be. Thats life. Be yourself but don't be have such a high ego that you aren't replaceable or have skills that no one else has, because plenty of people are ready to take your place.
Indeed, especially with the high demand specialized technical talent has in some key markets, this will definitely be appreciated as a plus to attract talent to many companies!
Yeah I have a great job at a great immediately recognized company, but I’d crawl my way across a bed of white hot coals to do my job at the FANGs.