Apple Ending Development on Aperture as Upcoming Photos App for OS X Will Replace iPhoto

[dgreene196]

How do you know that? Have you used Photos before? We've barely seen it in action, there's no way to judge its full potential.

The Loop was talking about Photos being the 'new platform'. It may very well be that Photos will be the stepping stone for a completely new professional photography app, just like how FCPX was based on iMovie.

It's a good point.

Apple over the last few years has shown a willingness to tear down old software to create something that's leaner and more efficient. Lots of people seem to love what Final Cut Pro X can do now (after some updates); the opinions on iWork programs are a little more varied:roll eyes:

A few stories across the web on this decision certainly suggest that Apple expects Photos to be useful for professionals as well as the average consumer. I do expect this future platform to be capable of working with RAW since essentially all of Apple's photo-editing software is able to work with RAW. How flexible and powerful this software will be? Well, we'll all find out in due time. My personal suspicion is that those that are fond of plug-ins and extensive editing options are going to have to look elsewhere, for better or worse.

 

[fredfnord]

Dammit

I admit, about 90% of what I need out of Aperture is in iPhoto. But that last 10% probably won't be in Photos either. (And considering that I have 1.5 TB of photos, I doubt I'm going to be storing them all in the cloud anytime soon either.)

On the other hand, I would sooner stab myself in the eye with a rusty fork than use another piece of 'we promise it really doesn't suck ha ha just kidding' Adobe software again. (And yes, I'm sure someone is going to recommend Picasa, so I should add 'Or Eternal Beta Google software either.')

I sure hope someone comes out with a viable replacement for Aperture. Someone who isn't Adobe. Or Google. ****. They won't, will they? Because nobody wants to put in any significant amount of development effort to compete with Adobe, because Adobe can sell products that don't actually WORK and not bother to support them — God only knows how they can sell things like that, but they can — which saves so much on development, testing, and support costs that it's hard to compete with them. And Google just calls it 'beta' and tells its users to support each other, which saves them an awful lot of money and time too.

 

[KoolAid-Drink]

Will the new Photos allow you to store your photo library locally?

Here lies the rub; if it's mandatory that all your photos be on the cloud, I can't really replace Aperture with it. One, privacy issues. Two, data integrity. Who's to say Apple won't lose a random photo here and there? Why should I trust their backup strategy? What if my account gets compromised and random photos get deleted or private ones downloaded?

Apple hasn't given me much reason to look forward to their new way of doing things. I'm going to miss Aperture. I've never liked Adobe software, or their new subscription model.

I may get a lot of flack for saying this, but I honestly think the new Photos app will support local storage. It wouldn't make sense otherwise; if Apple said that Aperture/iPhoto libraries would be supported to migrate to Photos, then chances are very high Photos will support both iCloud and local storage. Who knows, the Photos app may even support Flickr and other online photo services, much alike to what iPhoto/Aperture does today.

 

[jacg]

I cannot believe this. I may use just 10% of Aperture"s features but I love that I can do certain things really quickly and professionally. Particularly import and export presets.

I hate the Adobe UI.

I feel so let down by Apple today.

 

[Janichsan]

Any tips to move my photos from Aperture to LR?

Does anyone know a way to move from Aperture to Lightroom now? I know the article mentions Apple is working on a workflow to move to lightroom. My Aperture library is about 120GB.

Unless there has been some new development that I'm not aware of, the only way to migrate from Aperture to Lightroom is to export all your originals in Aperture, and then re-import them in LR.

Meaning you will lose not only lots of time but also any organisation, any tagging, any rating and any non-destructible adjustments and edits you made to your photos.

Adobe and Apple better come up with a really good solution for this or they will have a very hard time convincing me switching to Lightroom is a viable solution.

 

[pbrooks]

I dropped Aperture about a year and a half ago and migrated to Lightroom. I've been kicking myself for the years I stayed loyal to Aperture, missing out on how unbelievably more capable Lightroom is.

 

[jwdsail]

Sigh.


apple.com/feedback

 

[Parasprite]

Does anyone read anymore?

"With the introduction of the new Photos app and iCloud Photo Library, enabling you to safely store all of your photos in iCloud and access them from anywhere, there will be no new development of Aperture," said Apple in a statement provided to The Loop. "When Photos for OS X ships next year, users will be able to migrate their existing Aperture libraries to Photos for OS."

You'll probably still be able to use the latest version of Apeture on your Mac, calm down.

When a company drops support for something you use you either shop for an alternative or assume something will break in the future, neither of which are particularly good news when you make a living from it.

 

[xmichaelp]

If this follows past patterns:

- The new Photos app will do 99% of what people used Aperture for.

- But not in version one! (There's is SOME hope that the delay of Photos to 2015 makes this not true, but the past pattern is: clean start, then build from there. We saw it with Final Cut on the pro side and iWork on the consumer side when the new version re-gained lost AppleScript tools.)

- But Aperture won't suddenly evaporate. People who need it can keep using it until Photos is ready.

Are you saying Photos isn't coming out till 2015? If so, source?

EDIT: Nevermind, I saw it on Apple's website.

 

[thekeyring]

I can see Photos replacing iPhoto but aperture?!

What about iPhoto on iOS?

 

[ghostface147]

As long as there is a way to import my events from iPhoto to this new Photos app...that's all a good number of people will need. I'd hate to have to reorganize thousands of photos from scratch.

 

[iscand]

Oh please.

People said that about Final Cut X and I still see companies buying Apple products for video editing day in, day out. Maybe they're not using FCX (though many still are, after the teething period) but this is simply overblown.

Business sales actually makes up a larger and larger portion of Apple's sales every year.

Your example is not very effective. Final Cut still exists and is still meant for professionals.

In the Aperture's case, they are taking away a product for professionals and replacing it with a product for the mass. I find this difficult to accept.

 

[NOV]

Oh my god. I JUST bought Aperture this week. Any one think I could get a refund?

Sure you can. I asked it for Logic X and received it.

 

[0098386]

Then don't buy them.

But whatever you do, stop whining!

Are you a fanboy? Because there are serious issues with Apple devices at the moment (that huge 32 page thread being one of them), and what, people should just not complain? I want to buy Apple, I think they used to be the absolute best but there are such problems with them now. It's worrying. I don't want Windows or Linux, I just want iOS and OSX to be the top dog again... like many others I suspect.

 

[macmikey2]

wow, this sucks...

I have been on Aperture for years. Hated iPhoto and with the beta I don't like Photos either.

Looks like I'm stuck with Adobe and their crap and security issues.

 

[rebbi]

Not surprised...

I can't say this is much of a surprise, nor am I particularly upset. Aperture had languished for some time and I always found it slow and buggy. I'd migrated to Lightroom over a year ago. Doubt I'll be looking at Photos when it ships but I hope it's Apple's best effort. But no, I don't expect feature parity with a prosumer app like Aperture or Lightroom.

 

[NOV]

To be honest, I have been an Aperture user for 6 years but never really liked the application, although there was some improvement on last versions. The thing I mainly disliked was un-intuitive approach to use many of its functions.

 

[DudeDad]

I enjoyed Aperture, but it fell behind. Picked up LightRoom -- it's what I expected the next version of Aperture to be. It's very, very nice, and there are tons of helpful videos out there. If you are really into photography (RAW files, etc.), check it out. Me and my Canon 6D are enjoying it.

 

[DaveN]

As a hobbyist who uses Aperture weekly, I'm disappointed. Aperture was fairly revolutionary when introduced. Before that, it was basically Photoshop for everything which is overkill in most cases. They let others advance while they stood still. I wonder if Aperture was sacrificed to appease Adobe for Apple effectively killing Flash?

On the one hand, this is disappointing. On the other hand, Wall Street seems to like it and Apple's stock price bumped on the announcement so I guess that it pays for my transition. Too bad though as I liked the interface.

 

[jwdsail]

As a professional, this is absolutely the end. Apple will cease to provide RAW converter updates to Aperture, so when I eventually upgrade to a yet-to-be-released camera such as the Canon 1DX Mark II and the Canon 5D Mark IV, I will be ***** out of luck.

Bryan

apple.com/feedback

prob. won't help, but can't possibly hurt.

 

[0098386]

Reading that Discussions thread, they solved the problem by converting to an appropriate media format. I fail to see how that was Apple's fault?

Nope, no fix still. If you did read that thread you'd see every so often theres a "hallelujah!" post where someone has fixed it and it works for one or two others. There is no fix as of yet. Please don't jump in and claim it's not an issue

Do you know how serious it is? I emailed Tim Cook and he put me in touch with some high up engineers (I'm a software developer too so I'm able to diagnose in a helpful way). I'm in touch with them via phone and email.

 

[mw360]

Does anyone read anymore?

...

You'll probably still be able to use the latest version of Apeture on your Mac, calm down.

Funnily enough, as of Mavericks, some of us can't run it anymore. Don't expect it to run at all on 10.11. This is what Apple does when they want you to get your wallet out.

 

[springsup]

You can purchase Lightroom and keep it forever. No sub needed, it is available in a adobe cc subscription as part of the full creative suite or the photographers bundle (with Photoshop).

Yeah I found that out later. Adobe doesn't advertise that fact anywhere on their website, and their 'how to buy' page goes straight to CC subscriptions. Despite their statement last year that they were committed to keeping it standalone, they don't seem to want anybody to know about it.

 

[Rogifan]

According to Ars Technica, the new Photos app will have 3rd party extensibility.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/06/apple-to-cease-development-support-of-pro-photo-app-aperture/

Update: When asked about what Aperture-like features users can expect from the new Photos app, an Apple representative mentioned plans for professional-grade features such as image search, editing, effects, and most notably, third-party extensibility.

 

[alexrmc92]

Fairly faulty reasoning re why Apple did Aperture when Aperture and PS do completely different things. And it certainly wasn't moving into Adobe's space at the time, since Adobe didn't have anything like it.

I think Adobe got more serious about supporting the Mac when they realized, uh wait, it's not going away after all, but actually growing.

Of course Apple cared if people bought Aperture or not, especially at the pre-Mac App Store pricing. Anyway, by your logic Apple shouldn't be doing Safari, but instead should leave that to Mozilla and Google.

Agreed with your last statement though. But that doesn't help Aperture users.

Goolge's chrome browser was based on Apple's WebKit, which is the backbone of safari and many other apple applications. Although i believe they recently moved to Blink.

I expect the final revision of the new Photo's app (with a few updates as well) will bring a lot of aperture features into itself. I also won't be surprised if they take Garageband and logic and combine them as well. Hell, maybe even iMovie and FCP too.

Apple has been on the pro-sumer trend for a while now, and i don't think it's going to stop any time soon. All of the Apple apps have very simplified interfaces with the option to expand the more advanced capabilities in the app's preferences. I just hope they don't remove the advanced capabilities all together.