…at some undisclosed point of time in the future, after having left professional users hanging with only some bare-bones app for a significant period. So just like FCX, Pages, Keynote, Numbers…
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Apple Ending Development on Aperture as Upcoming Photos App for OS X Will Replace iPhoto
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Really?
Didn't sell well? Apple gives most of their software away for free. The main question should be, "Does offering this pro-level app attract more users to the Mac platform?" and, "Will killing off this product anger users and cause them to reconsider leaving the Mac platform moving forward?"
How many people switch to Mac, just to use Adobe's software? Anyone, hello? (Yes, perhaps way back when PS was Mac-only, but now?)
"Smooth transition" to an app we didn't want to use in the first place, otherwise we already would be. IOW, Apple and Adobe have agreed.... to screw us... with lube ... maybe.. Yippie! Hold my pants!
Sigh.
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I was thinking along similar lines. I could never get to grips with Final Cut Express 4.x but I absolutely ADORE Final Cut Pro X. It is powerful and accessible in the best of the Apple design tradition. So I'm willing to see with Photo turns out to be.
I am not going to poo poo Apple announcement and the photo's app just yet. We only saw a small piece at WWDC and it seems to contain features found in Aperture. It also seems to solve some other issues like backup and storage (iCloud). Images can now be used and auto updated across multiple devices (i.e. 1 shared library across many machines). It seems that they merges the basic image controls of iphoto and the more advanced options of Aperture. So, will have to see what the capabilities are when its 1st released.
Oh don't forget that the photo's app still has what one would call plugin support. This is across all devices. In iOS8 you can use 3rd party filters, apps, etc to enhance your images and they still reside in your library. All edits are non-destructive. This may now bring more apps on both the mac and iOS side of things for photo's. I know many were looking for some sort of of Aperture for the iPad. Well, this may be that answer. Could also be possible that Adobe then just has Lightroom interface with Photos. Edits go via Lightroom and organization via Photos. Or another App for this purpose to give you the missing features needed.
While Aperture is discontinued, that is not to say that Apple doesn't release a 3rd party plugin/App of their own for Photo's for Professionals that interfaces with the Photo's App. Or that missing features aren't added back in over time, like were done with FCP X.
I think and hope that this can serve as a great backbone to support a much greater experience overall.
Oh don't forget that the photo's app still has what one would call plugin support. This is across all devices. In iOS8 you can use 3rd party filters, apps, etc to enhance your images and they still reside in your library. All edits are non-destructive. This may now bring more apps on both the mac and iOS side of things for photo's. I know many were looking for some sort of of Aperture for the iPad. Well, this may be that answer. Could also be possible that Adobe then just has Lightroom interface with Photos. Edits go via Lightroom and organization via Photos. Or another App for this purpose to give you the missing features needed.
While Aperture is discontinued, that is not to say that Apple doesn't release a 3rd party plugin/App of their own for Photo's for Professionals that interfaces with the Photo's App. Or that missing features aren't added back in over time, like were done with FCP X.
I think and hope that this can serve as a great backbone to support a much greater experience overall.
Unless you bought a camera that came out in the last year, or buy a new one in the future.
Try again. Apple's RAW support has been at the OS level, and not for individual applications.
Waiting until we get to use Photos to judge it, but yeah.... Won't be migrating to a pay-per-month app (Lightroom) from Aperture (Seriously? Am I reading Adobe right? We can't buy it for a one time fee, it's subscription???). That's just ridiculous.
Hope Photos has everything needed to be at least 90% of what Aperture is.
Hope Photos has everything needed to be at least 90% of what Aperture is.
Not surprised in the least!
Frankly I never liked how Apeture worked and from my perspective it was only "Pro" software in name not in practice. I really don't understand the attachment to the software. In that respect I hardly see this as a sign Apple is abandoning pros as the app really had little appeal in that regards.
Beyond that I don't see where a rush to Lightroom is warranted either. I think people should spend more time thinking about their photo management needs and how to address those needs into the future.
Frankly I never liked how Apeture worked and from my perspective it was only "Pro" software in name not in practice. I really don't understand the attachment to the software. In that respect I hardly see this as a sign Apple is abandoning pros as the app really had little appeal in that regards.
Beyond that I don't see where a rush to Lightroom is warranted either. I think people should spend more time thinking about their photo management needs and how to address those needs into the future.
Yet another sign to those who thought, or wished, that Apple cared about the ill-defined "pro user". Apple has been a phone, tablet and everyday-computer company for a long time, way before Steve was called back to heaven.
I have been using A3 since it came out. It has some very good features but always needed help with tool function as opposed to tool results.
Additionally it left a lot to be desired in color noise and CA. Every version of Adobe Camera Raw has produced all around better results for me than Aperture so for me A3 was mainly for cataloging and fiddling around.
A big plus with Adobe and MS Office products is that they are cross-platform. Really, if a photographer wants a modern, powerful computer that is upgradeable and will hold a couple of data drives for $1000 to $1800 Macs are not the computers you are looking for.
Because Macs do lots of nice things I have three of them sitting on the same desk. The choices become more limited with each passing season. To get real work done, or to have a computer that will do real work, it is still a Windows world. To have all you computer dial your phone or to do all kinds of other cool things there are Macs out there.
I have been using A3 since it came out. It has some very good features but always needed help with tool function as opposed to tool results.
Additionally it left a lot to be desired in color noise and CA. Every version of Adobe Camera Raw has produced all around better results for me than Aperture so for me A3 was mainly for cataloging and fiddling around.
A big plus with Adobe and MS Office products is that they are cross-platform. Really, if a photographer wants a modern, powerful computer that is upgradeable and will hold a couple of data drives for $1000 to $1800 Macs are not the computers you are looking for.
Because Macs do lots of nice things I have three of them sitting on the same desk. The choices become more limited with each passing season. To get real work done, or to have a computer that will do real work, it is still a Windows world. To have all you computer dial your phone or to do all kinds of other cool things there are Macs out there.
I'm gonna stick with the folders-and-photoshop method. 6+ terabytes of images and still working fine.
Throw in a little graphicsmagick, a pinch of Perl, sqlite, exiftool, and voila... web-based thumbnail photobrowsing system in under 300 lines. 400 lines if you want searchable metadata.
Throw in a little graphicsmagick, a pinch of Perl, sqlite, exiftool, and voila... web-based thumbnail photobrowsing system in under 300 lines. 400 lines if you want searchable metadata.
1st off FCP X is a much better application then previous versions of FCP. Yes it started off rocky but Apple stepped up and over the initial year added missing features.
Same goes with Pages, Numbers, & Keynote. Apple has been constantly enhancing those apps. Yes, they start off with the most basic and needed features and they build out from there. One of the most requested features I have seen on the forum for aperture was for a iPad App version. In addition, other things that are involved are backups/storage options. Not to mention the process to use a library or even a project on multiple machines. Like Pages, Numbers, etc you need to start from the ground up with a foundation that works across all devices. One that operates the same across all platforms.
3rd party access is there from day 1. Apple already showed this off at WWDC for iOS. Thus, the ability for 3rd party apps to be used within other apps. i.e using filters, editing tools, etc all from within the photo's app. Or, you could use a 3rd party app and access you photos library. All with non-destructive edits (ala Aperture). All now saved to iCloud, sync'd across all devices and edits that appear immediately across all devices. Same would be true on the OS X end.
I also think Apple has learned a little from the intro of FCP X as well as the new suite of Productivity Apps. They are still developing photo's, per WWDC. Thus, by telling us now that Aperture is no more, they can field responses, such as these forums and submissions as to what other hope is not missing and maybe have time to make the most requested part of the initial release. Maybe they will also be more vocal, after the initial release, as to if more features will be rolling out over the year. Which is what happened after the initial outcry from the productivity apps release.
Oh and don't forget that no one is taking your Aperture copy away. So, you loose nothing. It will be updated one more time to work with Yosemite, so you can still do all the things you wanted to, just like using the previous version of the productivity apps. No one is forcing the change.
I don't trust Apple enough at this point to wait it out and see what they are going to include in Photos. I'm switching to Lightroom. I at least have confidence that Adobe will keep supporting their product in the future and I won't lose out on years worth of Library catalog adjustments that I've made to my RAW photos. It's just a shame though, the user interface for Aperture is 10 times more intuitive than Lightroom IMO. As it stands now I've been heavily using Aperture for 3 years straight, have done weddings and have many images for sale through Getty.
The sidecar is an option.
Apple has continued to sell expensive software to people knowing d@mn well they are not going to support it.
The last time I used Aperture sidecar was not an option and if you didn't move it there went all your metadata.
Also Aperture is not "expensive software". I'm pretty sure when Apple launched it they didn't say "Oh, lets kill this in exactly x years". Your hate is unfounded.
Yes, its a shame Aperture is gone but this kind of thing happens in the software world. Luckily Lightroom is full fledged and is a perfectly worthy replacement.
Personally I think Apple is just understaffed when it boils down to software development. I mean how many times has it happened they had to pull OS X developers to work on iOS and vice versa? Says enough. Makes you wonder though what the issue is to hire more people for a company with Apple's resources.
It seems that Apple executives have watched Idiocracy and concluded, that in the future dumber people like dumber apps.
Just when I had made an initial decision to stay as much away from Adobe and its "creative" strategy as I can. And chose Aperture for photo archiving tasks, because it was one of apps that actually had enough functionality.
Just when I had made an initial decision to stay as much away from Adobe and its "creative" strategy as I can. And chose Aperture for photo archiving tasks, because it was one of apps that actually had enough functionality.
This is something no one really saw coming. I had my gut feeling seeing the lack of an update but even I was expecting an Aperture X update or at the least a much better iPhoto.
I've been out of the pro shooters world for about seven years now and don't really know how Aperture changed if at all since then.
Yes I agree about the UI and library management. That change will frustrate you.
No, I don't expect so. I expect that they'll use the same Photos extensions framework from iOS8. So it'll be available on day 1.