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Apple Ending Development on Aperture as Upcoming Photos App for OS X Will Replace iPhoto
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No strong demand for Aperture so why would Apple support two apps into the future?
Does Wall Street even know what Aperture is? Seriously I doubt they have a clue on the Street.
From Apples standpoint you have to think why are we building so many Photo management apps that all do basically the same thing in slightly different ways. I suspect they are looking at generating a common software base to cover all hardware from Mac OS to iOS. Accomplish that goal and they can start to add any sort of functionality they want and with extensions users can add any feature they want.
Maybe it is me but I never saw Aperture as a professional solution due to the way it worked. As such I dont see pros loosing much with this transition.
I never did like Aperture, and frankly I don't think I'm alone here in that reality. Certainly a lot of people are posting here that are users but that really isn't a reflection of wide spread adoption of this software.
Does Wall Street even know what Aperture is? Seriously I doubt they have a clue on the Street.
From Apples standpoint you have to think why are we building so many Photo management apps that all do basically the same thing in slightly different ways. I suspect they are looking at generating a common software base to cover all hardware from Mac OS to iOS. Accomplish that goal and they can start to add any sort of functionality they want and with extensions users can add any feature they want.
Maybe it is me but I never saw Aperture as a professional solution due to the way it worked. As such I dont see pros loosing much with this transition.
I've used Aperture since version 1, and think it's one of the most perfect pieces of software available. It's extremely well thought out. Easy to learn, no bloat, and almost every feature you'd need to sort and make simple edits. Especially the image management features are second to none. I'm really bummed they're killing it. It only needed some better tools and a few more professional features to be up to date.
I can't imagine the new Photos app will do everything Aperture does, since it will replace iPhoto. This development is not good for Apple's Pro users. We've seen Apple focus more and more on consumers over the last few years, unfortunately at the expense of Pro users. I sincerely hope Logic and FCP is not next.
I can't imagine the new Photos app will do everything Aperture does, since it will replace iPhoto. This development is not good for Apple's Pro users. We've seen Apple focus more and more on consumers over the last few years, unfortunately at the expense of Pro users. I sincerely hope Logic and FCP is not next.
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True but Apple has always been noted for making the best hardware and services. Not too much with the pro apps.
Even FCP was an app they bought, tried to sell, then decided to sink money into. It's solid but nothing that Adobe Avid or Grass Valley needed to be worried about.
Want the best machine to run your pro apps on and you're a freelancer or small shop? The Mac is still the best way to go.
Yet those features are why I never saw Aperture as a professional app. Especially the library management functions which are basically useless.
So...
With the new Photos extensions functionality, is it POSSIBLE that if it handles organization, that all the advanced editing and what not will be available from easy to purchase, install and use plugins available cheaply?
Maybe this will be better?
I'm still kind of stunned and sad.
With the new Photos extensions functionality, is it POSSIBLE that if it handles organization, that all the advanced editing and what not will be available from easy to purchase, install and use plugins available cheaply?
Maybe this will be better?
I'm still kind of stunned and sad.
Nope, Apple are just pulling out of software sales because there's no future in it.
Software has lost its value. Now its given away free to sell either hardware, subscription services or the innocent souls of users.
From now on all Apple software will be designed to get you to buy an Mac and one or more iDevices to 'sync' with it, and then designed to get you to replace them all in 2-4 year cycles.
First, I have zero doubt that he'll ever even see my email. It will be opened by someone in his staff. There may be a spreadsheet that he sees saying nnn people complained about Aperture dying.
Second, I have the right to complain how ever I would like.
If I had done what my wife advocates and slept on it before sending, I would have been much more polite like you suggested... but today, I just felt like venting. I'm ok with what I did thanks for trying to correct me.
What does this have to do with Preview?
Seriously guy how did you manage to fold this into the discussion?
Seriously guy how did you manage to fold this into the discussion?
which is pretty much what I said? They'll release a version that is stripped of anything more substantial first and then slowly, very slowly add the features they removed first again. Up to a point. Pages/Numbers/Keynote are still missing tons of features that iWork '09 had.
I hope you have never used iTunes match before making that statement.
I've not once had a problem with iTunes Match, just to provide another perspective.
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As I understand, CaptureOne doesn't support plugins, right? That's a non-starter for me then.
Not so sure about this. The Keynote showed off the Photos App. Mainly for iOS8 but a little for OSX. But, you know it will be common across both anyway. They showed the ease of being able to make quick sophisticated edits. But, they also showed how each of the edits affected the settings. they then also showed that if you want to alter any of the individual settings you could open that option and make granular changes. So, the combined both worlds. Now I have no idea if it can do all of the sophisticated things that you can in Aperture, but it may with 3rd party apps and grow more over time.
I don;t get why people are jumping ship today and suddenly saying I have to switch and learn Lightroom right now. If Aperture was working for you over the past couple of years then why change? Why not wait a few months and see what happens. hell, why not wait an additional 6 months and see if Apple is expanding functionality or there is plethora of pro 3rd party apps. There missing part before was 3rd party apps had to have their own libraries. That is not the case with iOS8. I think you will find much more options avail over the next 12 months with Photo's and 3rd party integration then you may get out of lightroom. Could be wrong but I can wait and see.
True, but for many those features were minor niggles, or something they actually liked that kept them using the software.
I know for many, especially those with fewer than 5000 images or so, having Aperture keep all of the images buried deep in the app's root folder was nice when it came to backing files up.
For others it was a nightmare, especially when they had Aperture backing up images managed by the app, and then a Time Machine backup would backup the app.
For all of its problems it was WAAAAY better than iPhoto.
I have never liked the photos management aspect of Aperture and is one reason why I abandoned it. Never saw anything professional at all in the way Aperture handled photos.
The whole lets shove your whole collection of photos into this gigantic database just perplexed me to no end as it makes specialized tool usage a pain in the rear.
They had to start with a totally different framework. So it will take time. But, that is not to say that Photos will start at the same point. Also, Photo's is starting day 1 with 3rd part support across all devices. Apple's productivity Apps will then get that benefit as well., but started out a year behind that curve.
Apple is still constantly updating those features. The programs are going from a mac OSX version to one that can be used on an iDevice and iCloud as well. (Not sure about photo's support via an app in iCloud, just talking the productivity apps). So needed a complete re-write. They also were looking to get out there before MS released an Office version for the iPad. That is not the case with Photo's.
Throwing away a brilliant well thought out pirce of software from the era of steve. Looks like another sad step southwards to me.
...and in the meantime also pay montly fees.
TUNES. And the iMac will be MAC. (Just remove the "innovative" and "intelligent".) (sorry for ranting)
So the initial release won't even have editing? I mean, if they state "editing" an a pro feature that they are thinking about for the future... Or did I understand that wrong?
...and in the meantime also pay montly fees.
TUNES. And the iMac will be MAC. (Just remove the "innovative" and "intelligent".) (sorry for ranting)
So the initial release won't even have editing? I mean, if they state "editing" an a pro feature that they are thinking about for the future... Or did I understand that wrong?
Maybe that is good for the simplistic user but the whole idea of organizing pics the way Aperture did just strikes me as amateurish. It might be ideal for somebody that has no clue as to how the UnIx directory structure works but that is about it.
Well that it may be but that doesn't mean the Photos follow on for both of these apps might not be better. I already have my reservations here though because it looks like it will be strongly tied to iCloud which Apple has yet to get right in my opinion. Apple does have its issues with designing software for idiots but I will take a wait and see to determine if they have screwed up the coming Photos app.
You'll forget about Aperture almost instantly. Lightroom is much better. That's coming from someone that loves Apple and hates Adobe.
I wasn't intending to say Aperture was THE answer to PS. I don't think Apple could have gone from nothing to a full-on PS replacement. Aperture was positioned to be a stepping stone into that full replacement, while still offering unique functionality to actually justify the purchase. It was more of a "Clean up your act or we've coming straight at you next time."
And by the way, I DON'T think they should be doing Safari either. Or rather, I wish they didn't have to. Apple started Safari because Microsoft was doing a crappy job of supporting IE on Mac back when IE was the only game in town. So bad that Microsoft had the opposite response Adobe did and just decided to stop developing IE for OS X. That changed the picture to the point where Apple pretty much has to do Safari now. But I would still rather see them team up with Google on Chrome, though I know that would never actually happen.
Finally, my last point, and my point overall, is that Aperture users should have seen this coming. I know I've personally been keeping my eye on LR for some time now. I didn't go out and buy it, but I also haven't bought any Aperture exclusive plugins for a couple years now either.
Oh believe me I agree with you. It's one of the things that is nice about Aperture if you have less than 5000 images or so. Once you manage your images yourself Aperture looses points and Lightroom becomes a much better app.
I can tell you know that it will be one of two things.
1) So limited that it's like an iOS version of iPhoto
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2) A failed attempt at making an already simple app (Aperture) even simpler and iOS-ified.
Now, both can work for the vast majority of users, especially those that live life on the iPad and iPhones, but it won't be an Aperture and it won't even come remotely close to what Lightroom 5 has become with the new updates.
How did I manage to ask what would happen to Preview, with it's extremely related feature set? I don't have the slightest clue, clearly talking about similar things is an alien concept to you...