First, why would you run the machine without its case? Second, you should expect the computer to run hotter because you've crippled it thoughtfully engineered cooling system.
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Apple Engineers Explain New Mac Pro's Innovative Cooling Features
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Pretty positive Apple would (is in fact charging) charge $1000 for it if it was available.
Erm, is that a fact....reason I ask for a test is to prove it.
The casing is NOT connected to the internal cooling system, so there's that.
Test please.
Yeah, But that's not typical business model for Apple and I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it to be sold on it's own
in the meantime, if you want to do your own custom build around the same look:
https://www.dunecase.com/index.html
buyer beware. I don't know the quality or reputability of this manufacturer. But they are selling a direct copy of the case, with internal layout of E-ATX (SUpports ATX as well)
And like that, the "trash can" Mac Pro, still offered for sale last week, has been officially ignored, relegated to the Memory Hole.
I will probably never be in the market for something like this but I nerd out to stuff like this. It reminds me of the Apple we tend to reminisce about...that is still very much Apple today as displayed here. Apple is firing on all cylinders. They’re not perfect but they are delivering and obviously listening.
My liquid-cooled G5 Quad is still going strong (although I use it about once per year at this point)... just sayin'. 😃
It is pretty loud though.
It is pretty loud though.
Why not re-invent them with future innovation and also implement better shutdown safety features?
I dont see why it cant be done. We need to stop looking at what it once was and make it superior just like they have been with air cooling. If the market is there of course and its profitable.
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That case is a little rich for my blood, as my inclination is to spend less than $70 on cases generally speaking and I'd rather just get a G5 case and mod it for standard part use than spend $200 on a Mac Pro lookalike, but I do love that somebody already has this as an option.Yeah, But that's not typical business model for Apple and I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it to be sold on it's own
in the meantime, if you want to do your own custom build around the same look:
https://www.dunecase.com/index.html
buyer beware. I don't know the quality or reputability of this manufacturer. But they are selling a direct copy of the case, with internal layout of E-ATX (SUpports ATX as well)
Yeah. Closed loop liquid cooling now is almost a staple in most gaming PCs. Super easy and reliable now.
Um, Ethylene Glycol is hardly toxic (yes it is technically a "toxic alcohol" in the sense that drinking it is toxic, but not toxic to the touch), not destructive to electronics, typically has anti-corrosion chemicals in it, has pretty good heat capacity, doesn't promote microbial growth, has UV dye for leak detection, and is super cheap.
In the report they say that the "cheese grater" front helps prevent dust from entering.
Been a few decades since I took Rymaszewski’s packaging class, but my recollection is that it’s more complicated than that
for semiconductor packaging?Been a few decades since I took Rymaszewski’s packaging class, but my recollection is that it’s more complicated than that
yep.
All I remember is you want turbulant flow, and one can derived an equation for fin height, distance between fins, air speed, etc. and calculate the power dissipation based on that.
there is no way that "cheese grater" front will help prevent any dust from entering. even the dust filter mesh on my gaming pc has some dust on the cooler behind the dust filter.
Not sure what config you’re referencing, but a single Xeon system with the Mac Pro’s specs clocks in at almost $90k, though with the 30% discount they’re offering it’s available for the low, low price of $62k.
That’s 25% more expensive than Apple—with a slower CPU (2.5/3.8GHz vs 2.5/4.4), slower memory (2666 vs 2933), a less powerful GPU and a much slower SATA SSD.
They said “help.” I assume the idea is that at least some dust gets caught in those nooks and doesn’t “enter,” but who knows. Probably that’s the case, just so they can sell you a special “grater nook cleaning brush.”
Yeah, But that's not typical business model for Apple and I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it to be sold on it's own
in the meantime, if you want to do your own custom build around the same look:
https://www.dunecase.com/index.html
buyer beware. I don't know the quality or reputability of this manufacturer. But they are selling a direct copy of the case, with internal layout of E-ATX (SUpports ATX as well)
Cool, I'm just going to buy a case and set it in front of my 5,1.
And is super complex and limited and not nearly as good as air cooling these days. Only noobs use liquid cooling in home setups.
I think that depends on whether you are comparing it with one that has similar specs but no headroom to grow or one with similar potential.
It also decreases if one considers upgrading over time and therefore one wants the headroom (not necessity arguing for this, I am not sure that makes sense in most cases, just pointing it out).
It is related to the whole machine. They have built a box with a tremendous amount of headroom. Users at the lowest end will pay a penalty for that growth potential.
As someone else has explained on here, it is not the cost of the motherboard or power supply (although there is some of both of those), it is the cost of designing the full system.