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One thing I´ve always thought, is that you could merge the whole three apps of iCal, Watch and Notifications into one new application. If done smartly.

A truly great mind should also be able to merge communication like Messages and Mail into one. Perhaps even phone.
That would betray the core principal of an "app." You're talking out combing apps into applications. And I vote no, for all the reasons we trended to apps in the first place. They load fast. They're focused on the task at hand. They don't require as complex navigation.
 
I hope they keep the Forstall version "just in case."

Forstall was pushed out because he emulated the behavior and detail oriented meme of Jobs, but that was less tolerated in anybody but Jobs. It was political. Jobs hired/promoted Forstall at NeXT. NeXT saved Apple.

No, the problem was that he had all the attitude of Steve jobs, with little of that genius. Ios6 was just plain lackluster, and he was clearly the weakest link.
 
For the love of God, hire more damn engineers and stop being so greedy with your damn cash reserves.

So annoying.

It's not that simple. You need work spaces, you need to get them up to speed etc. plus the more folks working on something the more potential security leaks, the harder coordinating etc
 
I don't want to see EVERYTHING flat and plain like Google but a little touch up is nice.

I swear, though, they'd better leave iBooks alone. Honestly I feel that that is just the perfect design and it's the reason why it's my favourite e-reader.
 
Forstall was pushed out because he emulated the behavior and detail oriented meme of Jobs, but that was less tolerated in anybody but Jobs. It was political. Jobs hired/promoted Forstall at NeXT. NeXT saved Apple.

AND because iOS 6 was full of bugs and holes he didn't catch because he was too busy moving shadows around on fake knobs to make them look more real.
 
Naugahyde Windpipe

I love the wood, the leather and the tape reels. I like the shredder in passbook.

I could live with the wood. The tape reels are actually kind of cool, but for the love of all things holy, that ridiculous leather texture has got to go. I actually laugh out loud every time I open Calendar and see it... well... sometimes I just cringe.
 
If you are feeling uplifted by skeumorphic interfaces, you need to enrichen your life. for one think that the best interface is no interface.

"If you're feeling uplifted by rich design, you need to enrichen your life". Cool, bro.

What do need to enrich those who're feeling uplifted by "no interface"?

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No, the problem was that he had all the attitude of Steve jobs, with little of that genius.
Oh. The one who created Aqua interface and created iOS had a lack of genius? Are you working for Fox News?
 
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Emphasize performance and stability over flash and gimmicks. If iOS engineering eats into OS X engineering as it did in 2007, words escape me aside from

HIRE MORE ENGINEERS.
 
Working overtime is nothing new, but transferring a team from one OS to another is (even though it has precedent). All the time the OS X team spends on iOS is time that could have been used to further progress OS X along, and there is a lot of work that needs to get done. Given how many issues need work on, hiring more people would be helpful here. If it was a single problem, fine, more hands don't always help. But when you have hundreds of issues requiring major work, well then hiring more people is more often than not the solution.

Completely wrong. Software development companies do this all the time. They sometimes move people from one project to another during crunch mode. I am willing to bet Google, Microsoft, Samsung, you name it, all do it on some projects.

Hiring from outside? Apple not? According to their "Job Opportunities Page" and using the filter "Software Engineering" it says it is showing 600+ results. Sounds like they hiring to me. Though yes Apple is a HUGE company.

They can't just take someone off the street. I've already made a long post on another topic here discussing that. Here is a copy and paste of most of it.

Sadly it is not that easy. No matter if they have a Computer Science degree, or even if they were a Doctor of Computer Science (though for a project like this, that wouldn't be "special" to have) and had 5+ years of industry experience you can't just hire someone off the street and the next day they can jump right into this big project that is entering crunch mode and whip off code like that

1: You interview them, and interview a lot of people. That can be a long process. I'll just skip it and pretend it was instant.

2: You agree to hire them and officially offer the job. They accept.

3: What if they already were employed at a place and needed to give at least 2 weeks to a months notice? Well you wait longer. Or worse, what if they weren't local and had to move (though for an important position you need filled fast you would be looking local first).

4: Ok, now let's say only after a week of offering them the job they start. What now? Start work? Not quite

5: Get familiar with the code base/get setup. Every single development company has their own way of doing this. The new coder has to get familiar with their technology, their coding style, and more. Matter of fact they are still more than likely reading and studying the manual that all coders for the company most follow. This follows coding styles and guidlines to make it easier.

6: Familiar with the project. How is the design of the project? What are they expecting? Where are they currently at, working on, needing done?

I can go on on. More than likely they haven't even started any "real" coding work for the project. They haven't put them on the biggest task yet. They are getting used to the coding style, guidelines and the technology being used on the project. Even their internal libraries they have to learn.

You expect someone off the street to just jump right in and be able to implement features and fix bugs without any prior experience of the code base? Nope.

You move from within. They have experience with the style, guidelines, internal code libraries, technology and more. They know what is expected. Their is virtually zero setup time.

I could go on and on. But the fact is every company does this. I am so confused why people all of a sudden thing Apple is absolutely lost and they think they are just some random start up software company. Even Steve Jobs (since everyone here, not saying or implying you, thinks he was God and was the only one who could manage Apple) made it clear to the public that he did move people around to different projects when needed. And no, I'm not talking about the whole Mac Vs. Lisa and the Mac team being pirates and all that.

Is it "time loss" on the OSX Project? Maybe. But who knows. We don't know the state of that right now. Just because it wasn't announced when it usually is doesn't mean anything. Apple has before decided to release products later, even if they weren't "late" or having issues. Maybe the OSX Project is doing great? Maybe they are even ahead of schedule (though in software development you never are even if you think you are)? Maybe their internal deadline isn't nearly as hard or complicated as what could be set for iOS7? Fact is none of us know really. It isn't announced. This could be exactly what Apple is doing or planning on release dates/announcement dates.
 
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I could live with the wood. The tape reels are actually kind of cool, but for the love of all things holy, that ridiculous leather texture has got to go. I actually laugh out loud every time I open Calendar and see it... well... sometimes I just cringe.

Haha!! you too? That and game center (which i avoid like a deseased hamster) however I really like the notes and memo app.
 
I like apps that have a personality, and real-world cues, done well (which Apple's apps are), imbue personality. I'd be sad to see the bookshelf go away, and the Game Center felt, and Notes' lined paper. That said, Jonathan Ive is one of the best designers in the world, and I trust him implicitly to do a good job with the UI overhaul.
 
This is crazy, I don't know why anyone would want a flatter iOS. To me, the iPhones operating system is the best out there to date. Anybody who would rather have Windows 8 or android, can go there. I don't think anyone would argue that the iPhone's operating system is a little bit too showy. But it is really simple to use, and how about the older people who use iPhones. We need to have them learn a whole new style of an operating system? This is stupid!

People just don't buy iPhones for the hardware, but also buy them for the software and the ability to sync across all of their devices, and their computers! Hopefully they will remember this when they are finishing up iOS seven!
 
Just throwing more engineers at a problem is almost never the solution.

That's not what we're talking about. The report says they're pulling OS X engineers over to iOS to help finish it on time. But in that case OS X will suffer. If they move all hands to the next iDevice, then the next MacBook or Mac Pro will be delayed. The more you pull engineers from project to project, the least they can concentrate on the task.
 
Re : deforrstalization

Great news ! I am sooo looking forward to all grey items with a shade of gray , and lots of shades of off white and blacks like they did when they took all the colour from itunes icones , great ! just great ! Not!
I guess ill just stick with my trusty iphone 4s with the best ios 5.1.1 jailbroken ,best google maps , and original youtube app , and beautiful phone coulourful dial keypad not a shade of beige like the iphone 5 keypad (in my opinion) , and lets have some more socialization integration please , blah! I just vomited a little , and thats all folks , thats how i feel about change for the sake of change .
Yes make everything gray Apple bravo ! Thats what i call great change perspective .
 
Let's go for a more flat, modern, and grown-up design, kind of like this:
 

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For the love of God, hire more damn engineers and stop being so greedy with your damn cash reserves.

So annoying.

heh heh, did you or the 33 folks who thumb up your post know how hard it is to get a good software developers? and how many competition is there for top engineers (you know the Google, FB, AMZN, Samsung, LG of the world?)?.. Do you even know the process of software development before you post that msg? :cool:
 
Spoken like someone who knows nothing about developing software.

9 women cannot make a baby in a month.

This is needlessly patronizing. The fact (rumor) that they are taking engineers from one project to work on a more pressing one indicates that they have a shortage of engineers. If, as was the case before, this leaves a shortage on the OSX front, then it's entirely reasonable to suggest that they need to hire more engineers. They are not gestating this operating system.
 
Steve Jobs is dead. The leadership at Apple should be focused on doing what they think is right not what Jobs fanboys on the interwebs want them to do.

Also I find it amusing how many complained about the 4S looking just like the 4 and the 5 looking like a stretched 4 and wondering what Ive does with his time....and yet now we're getting complaints that there's nothing wrong with the UI and why is Apple changing it, change for change sake is stupid, etc. Seems a bit contradictory to me.

It's impossible for Apple to ever do anything right. It goes to show that you should never try to please everyone because you won't end up pleasing anyone at all. People who want to nitpick will always find something to criticize.
 
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