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Apple Estimated to Have Taken 50,000 iPad Orders in First Two Hours
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Great, the iLemmings have spoken. 
Set your alarm clock, order, take a picture of you ordering, upload it to the Web.
Aren't you guys just sooooo cool?
Set your alarm clock, order, take a picture of you ordering, upload it to the Web.
Aren't you guys just sooooo cool?
This analogy is a bit strained for several reasons.
First, those were for the most part "personal" printers/devices/etc. Once you fixed your local situation it was fixed. This is the opposite. What you want is for 1,000s of websites to flip over from Flash containers to something else. That something else does not work in the web browser that has 70+% of the market (IE. ) . The kludge to make HTML5 like code work in IE is to use ...... Flash. The very thing you are trying to hypothesize will disappear quickly.
Is the current internet content currently dominated by crappy IE standards or by the code that works in the more ACID complaint standard browsers ?
Yes that is changing but in now where near has taken "6 months" to do. It is a process that is taking years to do.
Second, I think you underestimate the amount of tolerance many Flash consumers are going to put on this. For example a letter from one of the daring fireball discussions on this.
http://daringfireball.net/2010/01/apple_adobe_flash
Is the iPad going to appear "magical" to some other kid who unknowingly hits the same problem ? I don't think so. That is a crappy user experience and most likely Apple will get an earful of complaints as folks run into this in larger numbers. Similarly, more folks are going to "excuse" the iPhone because it is a 'better than nothing' solution. too small screen, excessive zoom/pan to see content. The iPad is suppose to negate those. That fallback excuse isn't going to be there. Apple never set the expectation point that the iPhone/touch were the ultimate browsing experience. A convenient one perhaps, but not ultimate.
Note that Apple itself has to repeatedly resort to photoshopping the depiction of the NYTimes home page in there iPad collateral.
I know, I know the response is going to be "there is an app for that". So break would can see on the internet and replace internet browsing with app buying. That is about as crappy as an overall solution as Flash is reported to be.
Apple's strategy of trying to push Flash out may succeed. However, it is extremely unlikely to significantly succeed in less that 2 years though.
If Adobe gets their act together and has a successful 10.1 deployment on the rest of the mobile/smartphone market (and hooked into the H.264 hardware decode where available) even more likely to be a protracted battle.
In other news: Iphone is losing more and more market share.
After having dropped from 18.1% to 16.8% in the holiday quarter (Q4/2009) Apple lost another 3.2% in Febuary 2010.
I expect the iPhone to lose more marketshare as Apple will sell more iPod touch and iPads.
After having dropped from 18.1% to 16.8% in the holiday quarter (Q4/2009) Apple lost another 3.2% in Febuary 2010.
I expect the iPhone to lose more marketshare as Apple will sell more iPod touch and iPads.
1) people satisfied with their current phone are buying iPod Touch instead
2) people are waiting for the iPad
But there was a ton of pent-up demand. Let's see what happens 3-6 months down the road.
"...and then make it amazinger!"
Introducing... the ePad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayx2mzm1QVw&feature=fvst
Introducing... the ePad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayx2mzm1QVw&feature=fvst
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i'm laughing at all the iPad and Apple haters right now
i pre-ordered 2 iPads just to spite these apple-haters. i only really need 1, but i'm buying two just to annoy them
You should have ordered 1 million iPads. This would be a lesson for those stupid apple-haters.
Rev B happens. Camera happens. Price reduction happens.
In the meantime, shedloads of cheap tablets happen at fraction of the price. There, proper e-ink happens. With colours.
But most importantly, netbooks with touch screen happen. I don't want one, but at the moment I'm not sure about the iPad either.
this must be a sad sad day for you..
You ordered two just to annoy others?! This may be a sad day for you, although you may not be able to see it why!
It's still too early in this transitional period for my money. The future will be better tomorrow.
2.5 million? Say what?
No not really.
I use Netflix all the time. I never use Youtube or iTunes, and don't consider them an even semi decent replacement.
What you are doing there is called projection. Don't take out issues other people may have with you and project them onto an inanimate object.
I didn't share my opinion. See how that works out...
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This doesn't mean Apple is selling less iPhones, it means the smart phone market is growing and Apple is not keeping up. However, as more phones join the smart phone market, this can be expected. In addition, Apple has not released a new phone, nor upgraded the current phone during a period of time that has seen many new smart phones enter the market.
Apple is doing pretty good for only being available on the number two network, leaving all the other networks to the combined competition.
#1: The iPAD does not properly surf the web, NO FLASH SUPPORT!
I know everyone here wants FLASH to die a quick death, but I live in a REAL WORLD, not within Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field influenced world.
Almost every news media website I go to uses FLASH video. I guess if you hunker down in Steve Jobs "It's All About Me News" bunker, you can get non-FLASH video and news, but otherwise nope, not even the New York Times website works on the iPAD, even though Apple tried to fool people into thinking it did. And I'm shocked they got away with that without some national media attention. What a scam attempt!
#2: The iPAD doesn't do any 2 of the things you mentioned at the same time.
It's laughable that Steve Jobs said it's better than a netbook since any even cheaper netbook can do all of these things and multi-task, something the iPAD cannot do.
#3: The iPAD is probably the best e-book reader ever invented.
And maybe one of the coolest looking devices I've ever seen, but then again, how many people have bought e-book readers again? And given the limitations of #1 & #2, exactly WHO needs this item? Hmmm.
FINAL PREDICTION: Huge initial sales followed by word of mouth disappointment and slow sales (Remember Newton?). I'll be shocked if it tops the iPhone and I don't think even these pre-order numbers top the iPhone.
PS: I was a DAY 1 iPHONE buyer and had to drive to 2 different stores both more than 50 miles away to finally get one, not to mention wait in line for an hour before NOT getting one at the 1st store!
You just say that because by specs, it is unable to compete
Jobs said otherwise. He put the iPad where netbooks are - between laptops and smartphones. Only that netbook are cheaper versions of laptops and the iPad is just a larger, slightly more powerful and much more expensive version of the iPod Touch.
Jobs said otherwise. He put the iPad where netbooks are - between laptops and smartphones. Only that netbook are cheaper versions of laptops and the iPad is just a larger, slightly more powerful and much more expensive version of the iPod Touch.
No one expects it to top the iPhone. The phone market is much bigger than the computer market, and iPad is just a niche player in the computer market. You are setting up ridiculous expectations that the device can never meet.
Except that it's not. In fact, with that screen, the iPad and computers with similar screns are painful and uncomfortable as e-readers. Obviously, you haven't got an e-reader, otherwise you would know.
Any 2? How about listening to music (via the iPod app) and email, etc. Sounds like doing 2 things at the same time to me.
The iPAD is nowhere near as powerful as a Netbook though!
And no, I don't have an E-book reader, so I don't know how that crowd will react to this product.
I just know that factually, the iPAD is an expensively underpowered item.
If the full version of Leopard runs on an 867MHz PowerPC processor, why is it that the 1Ghz iPAD cannot run a full version of Mac OS X and multitask ?
Like I've said previously, I'm fascinated by this product, it looks awesome, but it doesn't replace a netbook, a laptop, or an iPhone.
I'm still trying to figure out WHY I NEED this.
Right, because millions and millions of people don't stare at text on their screens all day without paint or discomfort. Photons are photons. If you set your brightness down a bit to match the background behind the iPad, you will have much less eye strain on the iPad since the contrast is better.
This is Apple we are talking about
If the journalist and analysts are calculating 51,000 in two hours the real number is likely to be 60,000-70,000.
Apple always outperforms the extimates
If the journalist and analysts are calculating 51,000 in two hours the real number is likely to be 60,000-70,000.
Apple always outperforms the extimates