Just curious why are twisting words so much? You stated verbatim that "Pros don't use VM's. You can't say you didn't mean that. Those were your exact words. Also my initial response was in response to you saying, "No 16"? You went on a tangent about the Mac mini. Your rebuttal makes no sense since the initial post was about the 16". I was only responding as to why there was no M1 16" today. After people complained to Apple that the 15" MBP was not "Pro-enough" it's obvious they are being careful not to instantly dump the Intel 16".
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I'd at least like Apple to put a badge of approval on a few products.
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You know this is a two year process, right? They can't migrate everything all at once.
Ha, the common response from buyers of the "no-longer-current" model talk themselves into a sigh of relief.
In Intel Macs, the NAND flash modules are exactly the same types as used on standard SSD's. Only the controller is proprietary. There is no indication that the SSD's on the new M1-powered Macs are any different either.
So can we all safely assume that you're NOT an Apple user? Or are you including yourself in the ship of being "trained to overpay"?
What a dumb comment. By training, no doubt.
i'm not. poor choice of words. i was responding to a post that said 16" didn't transition because pros use VMs which to me implies pros only use 16" macs and VM. I meant to say that there are also PROs that don't use VM and also PROs that don't use 16" mbp. so why would the 16" be held back in the transition? most graphic designers don't use bootcamp or windows on mac. we are PROs too and we need the screen space more than the intel chip.
Ah, the voice of reason. This is Apple just testing the water with the “average” consumer first IMO. There’s a lot of “two years” left.
they can't test the water. what are they gonna do? back out and go to intel if testing the waters doesn't work out? if i was confident in my move to my own chip, i would put up my best lineup up front. this doesn't inspire confidence on their part.
Okay, I'm giving up here. You're making some outrageous claims with zero proof. Most graphic designers huh? Please prove this? Also please don't come back and say, "I didn't mean most". LOL.
Three reasons,
1) The needed die/SOC area is twice as big
2) You can optimise the CPU/Memory controller, when you know it only has to support 16GB, you save a bit/lane/transistors/area.
3) Power/thermal limits, they consume power and produce heat.
Exactly, it's odd a few people here expected an entire lineup of Macs to replaced with M1. I didn't even expect anything more than the Mini and the Air, and truly I only thought it was going to be the mini.
The thing is, average consumers aren't usually early adopters. I guess not raising the prices might help, but I think they might be off to a slow start adoption-wise.
I don't think Apple's testing the waters. They're all in on AS - no turning back. They will be learning a lot via initial reactions, issues that come up, etc that will help going forward in the next conversions and updates. Especially regarding running legacy software, releasing M2, etc.
what do you want me to say? i don't exist and people like me don't exist that want to transition to sillicon and don't need virtualization? we aren't pro enough for you?
I think it's a matter of volume and capability. The M1 is likely based on the A14, which compares favorably to the lower-end Intel chips. These are high volume sellers, and they have a mature process, so will earn higher margins to start with. The more powerful chips will require more effort to produce, and in lower volumes, so it will take longer for TSMC to scale for them.
Will do. It should arrive next Tuesday or Wednesday. I see the 16GB models arrive a week later.
People who buy Macbook Air's will probably be the least affected with a switch to ARM.
It's a start of a transition. I would expect the next M chip and mini package to offer more. It looks like they drew the line on the feature set to meet many needs but not necessarily most.
Ah on the contrary. You're neglecting to recognize that average consumers don't know the latest Mac anymore than they know how much money is currently in Tim Cook's bank account. Average consumers are the #1 early adopters. They need a new computer, they jump in the car or online and buy one. Just like the average consumer doesn't know if Tesla has new chips in their latest car. Only techies keep up on that stuff.