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It's $50 for the additional GPU core on the Air. To order it, you need to start with the $1199 model. If you start with the $999 model, it has the 7-core GPU.
 
Ah on the contrary. You're neglecting to recognize that average consumers don't know the latest Mac anymore than they know how much money is currently in Tim Cook's bank account. Average consumers are the #1 early adopters. They need a new computer, they jump in the car or online and buy one. Just like the average consumer doesn't know if Tesla has new chips in their latest car. Only techies keep up on that stuff.
You're right, they don't look into these things, they just see "some of your current apps might not work on day one" and will opt for the older, more reliable thing right out of the gate.
 
It's $47 for the additional GPU core on the Air. To order it, you need to start with the $1199 model. If you start with the $999 model, it has the 7-core GPU.

On my order the additional GPU core was part of the $1,199 model. No extra $47 that I was aware of.

EDIT: Oh, I see what you're saying now. But the equivalent of +$50, right?
 
Hard to believe that will be able to do workstation class CPU's in two years. They have had their own Arm soc's for many years now. And still it more or less the same. 4+4 cpus is very far from 128 that they will need to compete with AMD, and they we compare it with AMD today, not AMD in two years.
 
Hard to believe that will be able to do workstation class CPU's in two years. They have had their own Arm soc's for many years now. And still it more or less the same. 4+4 cpus is very far from 128 that they will need to compete with AMD, and they we compare it with AMD today, not AMD in two years.


specially since they feature phostoshop and 3d pipelines in their sillicon transition reveal.
 
I still run a Mac Pro 4,1 on Mojave, upgraded to 128gb ram, oodles of ssd‘s and dual 3.46 xeons giving 12 cores. It’s eleven years old, and has been the best value computer I’ve ever owned......
Yeah, about that....

See my sig - I dumped my 4,1 for a Ryzen based system. I no longer have to rummage though the forums looking for work arounds for, literally everything. I am no longer telling myself that I can get by with hardware that is four and five generations back.

You truly have no idea how far behind you are.
 
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On my order the additional GPU core was part of the $1,199 model. No extra $47 that I was aware of.

EDIT: Oh, I see what you're saying now. But the equivalent of +$50, right?
Yup, $50 difference when you upgrade the base model to the same 512 GB SSD that the $1249 model has. So $1199 for 7-core GPU + 512 GB SSD, and $1249 for 8-core GPU + 512 GB SSD.
 
So can we all safely assume that you're NOT an Apple user? Or are you including yourself in the ship of being "trained to overpay"?
I am now a typical apple user.

I have an iPhone and an iPad.

I dumped my 4,1 (see sig) because I needed more horsepower (3d art is CPU, GPU, and memory intensive). Apple doesn't do horsepower anymore. And no, the 7,1 isn't horsepower - it is 1,500 worth of parts in a 4,500 case (not including the wheels).
 
Yes, I will, but I’m wondering why the new models were limited to 16gb Ram.

Is it an inherent design issue with the first M1 cpu, or did they decide to limit it, so it would appeal more to the general consumer end of the market that would be the first guinea pigs...

I can see no other reason why they would limit this....

How many low-end Windows machines are capable of more than 16GB (not gb)? All three machines compete at the low end.
 
My old mac book pro (2009) can have two nvme modules with a 2.5 adapter.
So it can be updated to 16 Tb SSD internal storage. (using SATA though)
Or 2x2Tb for a reasonable budget. Not exactly what Moore's law predict...
 
People who buy Macbook Air's will probably be the least affected with a switch to ARM.

yep, an M1 Air would likely be OK for my sister (she hates when I say stuff like that ;)).

these first out of the gates boxes will also be developer testbeds (not development machines). it's early days.
 
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these first out of the gates boxes will also be developer testbeds (not development machines). it's early days.
Disagree. If I was an iOS app developer, macOS developer or a non-Intel, cloud developer why aren't the new machines developer machines? For those tasks these are supposed to be better than their current Intel counterparts, significantly better.
 
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And an overstylized presentation featuring presenters from developer houses no one has ever heard of makes you confident of that statement...?
Seeing YouTube posts from “creators” as they call themselves like Deitry (rhymes with peachy as she says) or some dark haired guy that normally reviews Windows machines and macs make specific statements that creatives are leaving Apple just prior to Apple launching the 16”MBP and furthering that at MacPro launch.

the ones I’ve mentioned don’t create major content with Logic Pro (like Jonathan has), or FCP X like MKHD has ~ they’ve not demonstrated that like the others.

far from me to state I use these software I’ve mentioned, yet there are several in the industry that sue it as I come or for their creative work they love to do haven’t left Apple or their software workflows on the Mac for Windows alternatives as heavily as these creators have proclaimed.
 
Was a bit disappointed with this event. Apple Silicon was mentioned in previous Apple events. That was a flat ‘one more thing’ news. Was expecting more announcement on new Apple original shows and the Apple fitness+ release. :(:(:(:(:(
 
they can't test the water. what are they gonna do? back out and go to intel if testing the waters doesn't work out? if i was confident in my move to my own chip, i would put up my best lineup up front. this doesn't inspire confidence on their part.
They aren't testing the waters. You don't invest this much into an architecture to "test the waters". The more powerful laptops and desktops need more powerful chips. The M1 will scale up in cores, clock frequency, etc and become the M2, the M3, etc. These SOCs will also likely work with outboard silicon for those needing industry standard GPUs and more memory. This is a two year ramp after all, and some of the 16", 64GB and Mac Pro use cases need to be worked on.
 
Was a bit disappointed with this event. Apple Silicon was mentioned in previous Apple events. That was a flat ‘one more thing’ news. Was expecting more announcement on new Apple original shows and the Apple fitness+ release. :(:(:(:(:(
Yeah, this one was expected to be the Apple Silicon event. Apple TV+ and Fitness (and Apple One) were already given airtime in the previous event. Updates will likely come as press releases.
 
Was a bit disappointed with this event. Apple Silicon was mentioned in previous Apple events. That was a flat ‘one more thing’ news. Was expecting more announcement on new Apple original shows and the Apple fitness+ release. :(:(:(:(:(

Why would they discount the message of their new machines by adding anything else?
 
Yeah, it really is a four core CPU since as you mentioned, those other four cores won’t be used for intensive applications, unless of course it can use AI to intelligently hand out different application processes/instructions on-the-fly to different cores.
I you have applications that need all the power they can get, the four power savings cores _will_ be running at full speed. They just don't have that much power, but they can and will be used.
 
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