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14” 🙂 but yeah

No 13” to start with - there are two 13” MBP models at the moment, 8th gen Intel Processors and 10th gen. The 10th gen will still be the top end 13” MBP, then entry level 8th gen will be replaced with AS.

Next year the 14” MBP will replace the 10th Gen Intel models. I suspect the entry level 13” MBP with AS will stay around as a cheaper option like it currently is.
 
I bought a 2019 refurbished 16 Macbook pro and I am happy with it. I don't want an silicone based mac as they will have issues.
Don't worry, there won't be any silicone in those machines. Also, why would there be issues? There ARE issues with Intel Macs (Heat, mostly), and Apple's got a lot of experience with their own chips already.
I doubt AS Macs are plagued by more issues that Intel ones
 
I was under the same impression, however a quick look on Apple's UK website revealed that the £1799 model is currently out of stock, shipping all the way into December! So we could potentially see the entire line-up shifted over to Apple Silicon. Time will tell I suppose!

To be fair it’s been that way and with the 16” MBP for most of the year now (same with some of the new iMacs too) they just can’t keep up with demand and lowered factory staff levels too.
 
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No 13” to start with - there are two 13” MBP models at the moment, 8th gen Intel Processors and 10th gen. The 10th gen will still be the top end 13” MBP, then entry level 8th gen will be replaced with AS.

Next year the 14” MBP will replace the 10th Gen Intel models. I suspect the entry level 13” MBP with AS will stay around as a cheaper option like it currently is.
Do you think it possible the current £1799 model be relegated to the entry-level position of the current 8th gen models upon release of the Apple Silicon variants?
 
Why do you think the much superior chips will go into the lower end machines? Laptops are limited by their thermal budget, so it is to be expected that AS Macbook not only are faster, but also much quieter while featuring a much longer battery life.
If anything, I'd expect the situation to be the other way round

Because they won’t be ”more superior’ to begin with - they’ll just be better than the 8th Gen Intel chips currently in that range.
 
No 13” to start with - there are two 13” MBP models at the moment, 8th gen Intel Processors and 10th gen. The 10th gen will still be the top end 13” MBP, then entry level 8th gen will be replaced with AS.

Next year the 14” MBP will replace the 10th Gen Intel models. I suspect the entry level 13” MBP with AS will stay around as a cheaper option like it currently is.
You were too quick for me, in my head the 14” was an existing product lol.
 
I am willing to bet that 16 inch is not ARM.
I would be surprised if the 16 is going AS at this point ...
But I do not think they will mention an Intel upgrade during the event, why would they do that ... could be a silent upgrade that day though, or a press release soon ... Intel is no longer getting airspace with Apple
 
Because they won’t be ”more superior’ to begin with - they’ll just be better than the 8th Gen Intel chips currently in that range.
We'll see. AS chips are so much more power efficient leaving so much thermal headroom, I do expect those chips to be significantly better particularly in constrained environments like laptops.
But again, let's wait and see what Apple's got up their sleeves
 
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Do you think it possible the current £1799 model be relegated to the entry-level position of the current 8th gen models upon release of the Apple Silicon variants?

Very much doubt i’m pretty sure the plan has always been to start from the bottom and work up - the position they start from is one of extreme power efficiency rather than performance. Start with exploitation of that and go from there. I’m sure they’ll close the gap to the 10th gen Intel processors though and when the refresh for the top end 13” does come out they’ll probably destroy it.
 
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hmm 14.1 micro led ... waiting on benchmarks for next weeks macbooks

i smell we will see huge performance boost
 
A (presumably) hour-long “event” just to announce new processors in existing laptops? I’m skeptical...

To me much of the appeal of Apple Silicon is to enable thinner, lighter versions of the kind of devices we already have. I was hoping for a 12” MacBook with Liquid Retina (rounded corners, please), Face ID in slim bezels, maybe some new hardware bells and whistles.
 
i wanted to do some comparison. so let's just assume the A14Z (or whatever it will be named) is the same way improved over A14 as the A12Z (the one that is in the arm mini DTK) over A12. we're about to see +60% performance increase in multicore with the A14Z over the A14, and the A14 alone is quite impressive.

so we can have (synthetic) GB5 scores around 1592 for single core, and 4312 + 60% = 6900.

the latest 8 core i9 running at 2.4GHz is barely above that. and delivers ~30% less single core performance.
apple silicon seems to be a beast. and we can easily get a lot better cpu than the A14Z for the big guns.

That's pretty much the conservative estimate. And of course, an A14Z would be a quad-core CPU. For an 8-core CPU we are talking about multi-core GB5 in ballpark of 12000 or higher.
 
I really hope that the new machines are redesigned and that the report is wrong.

Otherwise, I'm waiting.

I wanted to pull the trigger on an iPad Pro or an MBA, both of which are not worth it with rumored changes so close to come...
Coming from ThinkPads, what Apple desperately needs is a consistent, public roadmap.
 
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