Interesting take. I’m curious. How many children do you have? How many of them are neurodivergent?
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Apple Exec: New Apple TV Remote Doesn't Need Find My Because It's Thicker and Harder to Lose
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Children are robots. All you need to do is program them. Everyone knows that.
Do I really need to list all the exceptions? I swear, some people. Yes, of course, if you have a child that is "neurodivergent" then you have to deal with that. I'm talking about the average child. It's like if I suggested people who sit a lot to stand up every once in a while to get the blood flowing and you respond, "Oh, interesting take. I'm curious. Do you know anyone in a wheelchair?" smh...I think people can work this out for themselves.
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Neither does a Mac mini, iMac, iMac Pro, Mac Pro... but I can find all of those devices in the Find My app.
i have never completely lost any remote till date, but my remote is always misplaced and have to find it all the time. I mean, kids watch and keep the remote randomnly somewhere, sometime they will put in a drawer (which one? got to open each one and check) and i have to spend good amount of time hunting. I'm prety sure thats the case with quite a few people. So yes, remote do need Find My, they definitely need it.
Definition of the day: pretentious.
We’ve never actually lost a remote in my household. Sometimes it might get misplaced temporarily for a few minutes if my father carries it to the kitchen y mistake. Otherwise the TV and Apple TV remotes are either on the coffee table, on the TV table or on the couch (listed in like hood) We had to keep them on the TV table while the dog was chewing through things (the tv remote is held together by thoughts, prayers and rubber bands) so I naturally put remotes there when I’m done.
(I also have a brand new spare TV remote for when the chewed up one stops working or falls completely apart)
I still stand by my complaints of the Apple remote being slippery and slick and easy to slide off a leg and get trapped under a person or slide into theDMs couch cushions. I think the new design will help slightly being thicker and all, but it’s still a sleek and slick remote, not a conventional chunky remote. I’m not asking Apple to make a big chunky remote like tv manufactures do.
I think it should have an beeper/speaker for tracking/couch cushion identification like Roku does. I’m also not asking for an overkill U1 AirTag precision finding solution here that would add more costs than a simple speaker/piezo beeper would. My living situation and not having ever lost a remote is much different than a family with 4 kids and/or big comfy couches. Just because I would rarely if even use the feature doesn’t mean I don’t support it. Seems like that’s the mentality of the executive in the interview.
(I also have a brand new spare TV remote for when the chewed up one stops working or falls completely apart)
I still stand by my complaints of the Apple remote being slippery and slick and easy to slide off a leg and get trapped under a person or slide into the
I think it should have an beeper/speaker for tracking/couch cushion identification like Roku does. I’m also not asking for an overkill U1 AirTag precision finding solution here that would add more costs than a simple speaker/piezo beeper would. My living situation and not having ever lost a remote is much different than a family with 4 kids and/or big comfy couches. Just because I would rarely if even use the feature doesn’t mean I don’t support it. Seems like that’s the mentality of the executive in the interview.
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Perfect children are the exception.Do I really need to list all the exceptions? I swear, some people. Yes, of course, if you have a child that is "neurodivergent" then you have to deal with that. I'm talking about the average child. It's like if I suggested people who sit a lot to stand up every once in a while to get the blood flowing and you respond, "Oh, interesting take. I'm curious. Do you know anyone in a wheelchair?" smh...I think people can work this out for themselves.
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My 4 yr old has a stuffed tiger he loves with all his heart. Yet he still misplaces it daily. Children are easily distracted and then become hyper focused on the next thing, until they are distracted from that.
So I am guessing the answers to my questions are “zero” and “none”.
Considering how uncommon “the average child” is, can you see why a way to track a remote would be appreciated by many, even though you personally are such an awesomely well-organized and self-disciplined adult that you’ll never need it?
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🤦♂️A FOUR YEAR OLD shouldn't be using an Apple TV. Pro-tip: If you're worried about your grown-up toy being lost. don't give it to a 4 year old. Looks like we're back to "common sense" here. P.S. I never said anything about a "perfect" child. Responsible ≠ perfect.
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No, actually those are the answers to, "How much rational thought is Arctic Moose putting into this?" Neurodivergent are by no means the majority of children (otherwise they wouldn't be called neurodivergent, obviously). The majority are perfectly capable of being trained to be responsible with a remote (again, I'm not talking about toddlers or 4 year olds . . . why the hell would you let them play with/use an Apple TV remote?). If they're not, then they don't get to use the Apple TV. Pretty simple! Lastly, you already have a way to track the remote: it's called an AirTag.
I'm done with this thread. You guys just work out your remote troubles on your own. I can only lead a horse (or moose in this case) to water. Can't make them drink.
P.S. (in case your questions weren't rhetorical) I don't get into things like what I do for a living, whom I married to, how many children I have, etc. on public forums like some do. Frankly, it's irrelevant to any discussion here and you need to judge comments based on their own merits. Too often people use external factors (real or assumed) to conveniently dismiss comments out of hand, like you're doing, instead of dealing with what is actually being said. It's like on discussions of social issues, where irrational people say things like, "If you're not [fill in the race/religion/social status/etc. here] then shut up!" to dismiss views they don't agree with. People can make up anything about their life on here and you would have no way of knowing if it were true. If I told you I had 10 children, would you all of a sudden think my comments were spot on? LOL! You'd just call me a liar or say they must have been raised by a nanny or something
And there are plenty of crazy or irresponsible parents out there, so simply procreating doesn't make one an authority.
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Have none of you ever had kids? We have to hide anything with buttons or else my toddler will walk around the house holding it and clicking the buttons.
Where’s the tv remote? Literally anywhere in the house if it’s not on the shelf.
Forget one time and leave it on the couch? Good luck. Air tags came out and my wife asked if the new appletv had them built in to the remote. “Doesn’t need it” is code for “can’t believe we didn’t think of that”.
Next gen appletv remote will come out in a few years and Phil Schiller will talk about how much courage they had to have to put “Find My” support into a device that so obviously doesn’t need it.
Where’s the tv remote? Literally anywhere in the house if it’s not on the shelf.
Forget one time and leave it on the couch? Good luck. Air tags came out and my wife asked if the new appletv had them built in to the remote. “Doesn’t need it” is code for “can’t believe we didn’t think of that”.
Next gen appletv remote will come out in a few years and Phil Schiller will talk about how much courage they had to have to put “Find My” support into a device that so obviously doesn’t need it.
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Anyone that has young (and probably older) kids knows that AirTags are possibly MORE needed inside the home than outside!
And society somehow expects you to dump that defective 'family programming' when you reach the point of spreading your wings and leaving the nest. HAH! That often doesn't happen, sadly. My brother is a case study in 'over programmed spawn'. He can't seem to get around our dead parents programming. How did I survive? I knew they were FOS at an early age, but some of their programming had an effect.
But anyway...
Who is surprised that so many families with children want someone else to deal with them during the day. When this pandemic started, I was like 'They are YOUR kids, you deal with them! You programmed them!'. Sad how many parents hate their kids, which makes me wonder how many 'lost' remotes are lost on purpose!
And I'm still looking for my Apple Pencil!!! Apple apparently has an ulterior motive for all this tech that we are addicted to : When we lose it, we just go buy another one. I lost several ethernet dongles over the years, and as a result, I found I had 7 of the damn things. But, 'Find my pencil'? Makes TOTAL sense! 'Find my remote'? Even if it just beeped!!! PLEASE MR. COOK! JUST MAKE IT BEEP!!! PLEASE!!!
Most times, when you search for your keys, your keys are at home!
Sure you can find it without U1, but having U1 or some other means of tracking the remote, saves you the inconvenience of figuring out which couch the remote is tucked behind. That convenience is valuable to me. Let's call a spade a spade. Apple didn't want to spend the extra $3-5 it may have cost because it eats into their margin and they believe it won't be a dealbreaker that affects sales.
U1 or not, if it just beeped! 'I'm here!!! No, over here! Warmer! Warmer!'...
I 'lose' my iPhone in the damn house often. I LOVE the 'beep' function on the Apple Watch. I use it several times in an average week.
I didn't say they were, I said that the "average child" is uncommon.
However, there are enough neurodivergent children (not to mention adults) that I certainly believe a tracking function in a remote is worth the effort and cost. (According to recent data ~10% of US children have an ADD diagnosis, and ~2% are on the ASD spectrum.)
Why the hell not? In my experience many three-year-olds are perfectly capable of using an Apple TV remote, actually much more so than many adults.
If they can choose something else on Disney+ so the parent doesn't need to stop what they're doing, and take off gloves or whatever, what's the problem?
It seems you're the one with troubles regarding the parenting skills, mental health conditions and general organizationalness of others.
We just think it is a little weird that an obvious use for the Find My network, that many, many people obviously would have found helpful, was overlooked.
I mean, I don't personally see a use for many of the accessibility features in Apple products, I never use a front-facing camera and I don't need a trackpad that has such a large surface, but I would never dream of complaining about their existence.
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I couldn't have said it better myself.
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Some people sound like the wife.
'Have you seen my pencil?' No. Why? 'I lost it.' Really? That didn't take long. If you were just more organized, and put everything in the same place when you were done with it. (Yeah, coming from her, this was astounding)
People MISPLACE things. It happens. It doesn't mean you are that much less of a person, and because it happens, and a company has the ability to make it easier for people to FIND that goodie, them not providing that ability just seems cruel...
Sure, I'll find my pencil (or someone will find it and recognize the name I had engraved on it) and life will go on. That I can't 'Find My' the thing just seems wrong. And having the remote beep on command would just seem so awesome, so natural, so 'expected'! (Especially when remotes needed to be 'paired' with the ATV to work. Why can't they be 'universal' without a cumbersome introduction process?)
I can find a 'missing' Airpod, but not the Pencil/Remote? Hmm...
'Have you seen my pencil?' No. Why? 'I lost it.' Really? That didn't take long. If you were just more organized, and put everything in the same place when you were done with it. (Yeah, coming from her, this was astounding)
People MISPLACE things. It happens. It doesn't mean you are that much less of a person, and because it happens, and a company has the ability to make it easier for people to FIND that goodie, them not providing that ability just seems cruel...
Sure, I'll find my pencil (or someone will find it and recognize the name I had engraved on it) and life will go on. That I can't 'Find My' the thing just seems wrong. And having the remote beep on command would just seem so awesome, so natural, so 'expected'! (Especially when remotes needed to be 'paired' with the ATV to work. Why can't they be 'universal' without a cumbersome introduction process?)
I can find a 'missing' Airpod, but not the Pencil/Remote? Hmm...
Thicker, but the gaps between cushions on my couch are still the same widtch. With the previous iteration of the Apple TV remote-the hotel room soap bar design which slipped through ones hands like a fresh fish on the end of a hook—you could buy a separate over-priced rubberized wrist strap that clamps into the charging port. So, I removed those wrist straps from my old Apple TV soap bar remotes, and put them in the two new Apple TV remotes that arrived on May 21st—NOT—the old wrist straps don't fit the new remotes.
Apple has been promoting the new M1 iMac, M1 iPad Pro, and second-generation Apple TV 4K following their announcements, and Apple's vice president of product marketing for home and audio Tim Twerdahl today did an interview with MobileSyrup to discuss the revamped Apple TV 4K and the updated Siri Remote.
Prior to the release of the new Apple TV 4K, there were rumors that the updated remote would include Find My functionality, which didn't happen. Twerdahl said that it was not a priority because the Siri Remote is thicker and won't get lost as easily.He said that Apple shifted to a new remote design because Apple is always aiming to deliver "richer experiences to people at home," and the kinds of content and how people are getting Apple TVs has changed. In some cases, the Apple TV is being used as a total cable box replacement, necessitating new remote functionality like a mute button.The new Siri Remote ditches the gyroscope and accelerometer that were included in prior versions, so the remote no longer serves as a game controller. There was a time that Apple required all Apple TV games to support the Siri Remote, but there's been a major change in thinking at Apple.
Twerdahl says that Apple believes that if you want to play a game, "a dedicated game controller is the best experience."
Twerdahl also further discussed the design of the remote, gaming on the Apple TV, and he highlighted eARC and the option to have other sources connected to the TV use Apple TV to output to HomePods, with his full interview available over at MobileSyrup.
Article Link: Apple Exec: New Apple TV Remote Doesn't Need Find My Because It's Thicker and Harder to Lose
It's dumb they wouldn't include the AirTag chip, if nothing more than to show the cool use of their technology.
Did you know children lose things they shouldn’t be touching in the first place? They also make forts out of couches, put their toys on top of everything in their way, and don’t ummember where things are.
At least we are past the era of grilled cheese in the vcr. AppleTV has no slots or trays.
This whole conversation is moronic. “Find My” is designed for people who misplace things. Just because not everyone needs it doesn’t mean nobody does.
By 2065 the globe will be overtaken by lost TV remotes, single socks and AirPods.