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I find Siri far more accurate and understands commands better via CarPlay than just using straight from the phone. Always rely on Siri to dictate text messages or make calls while I’m driving.
 
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I own both a HomePod and a Google Home. I use both throughout the day and I can tell you from actual user experience that Google isn’t this artificial intelligence assistant that’s miles ahead of Siri as people keep portraying it to be. Both Google and Alexa require rigid commands. Siri is smart enough to interpret natural language. Sometimes, Siri just kicks Google’s butt. This morning for example:

 
Oh, that's the best news I've heard all day! Hopefully, a new executive can bring about greater change than we've seen so far.

This should never happen when all you want Siri to do is "unpause the music":

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It’s not Siri’s fault if your dialect or language is not native to it. You adapt to Siri, not the other way around as you are the one asking for help.

My suggestion, start learning Siri’s language and dialect (whatever it may be) so both of you will be peachy.

Don’t be insulting Siri, haters :p
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I own both a HomePod and a Google Home. I use both throughout the day and I can tell you from actual user experience that Google isn’t this artificial intelligence assistant that’s miles ahead of Siri as people keep portraying it to be. Both Google and Alexa require rigid commands. Siri is smart enough to interpret natural language. Sometimes, Siri just kicks Google’s butt. This morning for example:

Lol; Google knows you are home along or single, that would explain the response ;)

Siri on the other hand is connected to your thermostat and has attributed cold in here to increasing the temperature.

What if you were on a date at home, Goggle will reassure you are loved, while Siri will make things hotter so you may be loved. Both scenarios are a win in my book :p:eek:
 
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Installable skills like whale sounds right?
If that floats your boat then yeah sure. I was thinking more like apps that provide local info (e.g you can get things like local traffic info, local public transport info, even local dustbin collection info.

It might sound mundane but that is the entire purpose - to assist with mundane, boring, every day tasks.
 
Does apple's security policy hamper Sir I in any way? Is that what holds it back? It is rather awful.
 
Here’s another example of living with both Google Home and HomePod and breaking the myth that Google is supposed to be this amazing AI and that Siri is allegedly the worst.


Google doesn’t understand what I meant, and won’t stop talking while I’m right next to it asking it to stop. HomePod hears me from another room away, Siri understands the question, and while it doesn’t have the information, knows what I’m asking and suggests information that’s relevant to what I want, which leads it to giving me the correct info.
 
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Best to just abandon Siri’s old engine and start again fresh. Otherwise, Apple will be putting lipstick on an outdated 8-yr old pig.

Perhaps, but I think mainly they just need to pour some billions at it and get it working great.

I’ve noticed it getting worse sometimes!

I like that they want to keep respecting privacy and so I can understand how Siri could be crippled slightly but they can make up for it hopefully with great engineering

It’s funny that Siri to text dictation works good for me but when I ask it something on the fly it comes up with irritating replies once in a while

I think Apple should buy IBM and take over Watson or something. Why can’t we have something like Watson helping Siri to do better?
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The fact that Apple went for a Google executive tells you something about that "Google's only advantage is that they spy on people and we have got our arms tied" motto.
Well things needed moving and they seem to be moving. Bring it on Siri.


Could be. Let’s hope they fix it. I think they can, and without the privacy violation issues. I’m willing to have second best for a while for the sake of privacy
 
Siri has never done much for more, nor has Alexa. I know others who have close to 100% success with both of them. Obviously I don't enunciate in a way that either of them like, though I have never had someone say my voice is odd or hard to understand (I don't have an accent or drawl). Alexa is marginally better. My success rate is probably 75% best case. It is laughable to watch me spell my password to AppleTV when it asks for it. My wife starts laughing as soon as the AppleTV asks for it.

I remember in the early 2000's that a co-worker used a voice recognition product. You had to do a lot of training and it's abilities were some what limited. Even with the shortcomings he managed to speak almost all of his work. It looked like a painful burden, one that I would not suffer, but he persevered. I am no longer in touch with him, but I am sure is happier with what Siri and Alexa can do.
 
Here’s a more in depth look at Google Home vs Siri on HomePod when it relates to natural language.


Note: I hadn’t noticed when I was recording but Google actually turned on the cooling in my home when I asked it to set the temperature to a specific number warmer than what it currently was, even after I had just told Google that it was too cold in here. It performed even worse than I thought.

Siri on HomePod understood both in natural language and as a structured command that I wanted to warm my home.
 
Siri has never done much for more, nor has Alexa. I know others who have close to 100% success with both of them. Obviously I don't enunciate in a way that either of them like, though I have never had someone say my voice is odd or hard to understand (I don't have an accent or drawl). Alexa is marginally better. My success rate is probably 75% best case. It is laughable to watch me spell my password to AppleTV when it asks for it. My wife starts laughing as soon as the AppleTV asks for it.

I remember in the early 2000's that a co-worker used a voice recognition product. You had to do a lot of training and it's abilities were some what limited. Even with the shortcomings he managed to speak almost all of his work. It looked like a painful burden, one that I would not suffer, but he persevered. I am no longer in touch with him, but I am sure is happier with what Siri and Alexa can do.

The one thing that really surprises me is that more people do not use Siri for voice to text I’m using it right now to post here and it gets about 95% right and then I have to go and do a few corrections In this case I didn’t do any corrections it’s all just me talking into my phone

When I send iMessage or text messages it’s 100% voice to text using Siri and people wonder how I can type so fast all the time because I machine gun them with messages

I think once you try Siri to text you get addicted to it and I can’t live without it
 
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The one thing that really surprises me is that more people do not use Siri for voice to text I’m using it right now to post here and it gets about 95% right and then I have to go and do a few corrections In this case I didn’t do any corrections it’s all just me talking into my phone

When I send iMessage or text messages it’s 100% voice to text using Siri and people wonder how I can type so fast all the time because I machine gun them with messages

I think once you try Siri to text you get addicted to it and I can’t live without it
That’s not Siri. That’s voice recognition.
 
...when I wake up, as I’m walking around doing my usual routine, I can say: “Hey Siri, I made my bed” and she says “Done!” and the item is checked off in Streaks.

Another: Siri noticed that I take a power nap around 2pm most days. I usually set a 20 min alarm then open Headspace. Siri suggested a Shortcut. Now, as I’m about to lie down, I just say “Hey Siri, take a nap”, Headspace opens and runs a meditation and my timer is set for 20 minutes.

You’re kidding. You rely on tech to make your bed and take a nap? If anything, those examples illustrate how mentally lazy and codependent tech is making us. And demonstrate how desperate we are to find significance in both the tech toys and Life’s routines.
 
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The last time I used Siri I accidentally had 'Hey Siri' turned on when I got my new phone... It thought it heard 'Hey Siri' which of course wasn't the case.

I actually don't know when I would use it. Another problem is that while it support Dutch, it has less features. Turning it to English however, which is my second language, makes it more prone to mistakes.
 
You’re kidding. You rely on tech to make your bed and take a nap? If anything, those examples illustrate how mentally lazy and codependent tech is making us. And demonstrate how desperate we are to find significance in both the tech toys and Life’s routines.

You have a serious lack of intellectual curiosity if you can’t imagine how technology can be used for these apparent mundane tasks outside of the first obvious answer that pops into your head.

No, I don’t need tech to make my bed and take a nap. But technology can help reinforce habits and it can help get rid of old ones. I don’t need a reminder to make my bed because I can see that it’s unmade. I can assure you with strict confidence that most people just don’t bother. It’s a good habit that I’m trying to reinforce and just like apps can be used to quit smoking or to wake up on a steady schedule, there are apps that can help build good habits. I use Streaks; it’s a proven method.

As for taking a nap, yes technology has for decades helped people sleep and wake up on time. Whether it’s a vinyl record with soothing music and an analogue alarm clock or a sophisticated computerized sleep system, people with insomnia have long benefited from technology.

Incidentally, you might benefit from better sleep because your brain doesn’t seem to be working at its full potential if all you can think of is the immediate obvious scenarios.
 
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I'm inclined to agree. There's no machine learning there. It's a bunch of skills which work well but the actual brain of the thing doesn't seem to be getting any smarter.

Also inclined to agree about the brain -and yet- I find the overall usage experience of my dots around the house vs siri to be far and away more enjoyable.

I’ve had to raise my voice near yell to get “hey siri” to get picked up by my watch, my phones (5,6 plus,7 and now an x) as close as on the end table face up next to me on the couch, or screaming at it on my windshield car mount. when i mumble or casually ask “alexa where’s my stuff” i get a response from the echo in the room and sometimes in the next too.

just for fun while typing this in front of my face on my phone i stopped to activate hey siri...it took on the third time.

i asked alexa what the weather is this week. the echo dot next to me and the one 30fr away in my kitchen answered. casual, conversational volume in my voice.

siri is an unpleasant joke of a useful experience regardless of it being “smarter”

serves no greater purpose than what my ipod nano can do with voice control.
 
Honestly I cant tell the difference since it was released in 2011. "Shortcuts" are smoke and mirrors because it CANT DO ANYTHING. There are graphical updates that make you think its new and flash when its not. The speed might be quicker which is nice, becasue if I want an incorrect response I would like to know about it sooner than later. But it really has not changed, and only good for setting an Alarm.
 
Honestly I cant tell the difference since it was released in 2011. "Shortcuts" are smoke and mirrors because it CANT DO ANYTHING. There are graphical updates that make you think its new and flash when its not. The speed might be quicker which is nice, becasue if I want an incorrect response I would like to know about it sooner than later. But it really has not changed, and only good for setting an Alarm.

Are you sure about that? Plenty of us know that you’re either lying or ignorant on the topic. Go read some of the responses and view the videos in this thread. Siri does far more than set alarms. There is plenty of evidence to contradict your claim.

Are Alexa’s Skills “smoke and mirrors”? Shortcuts augments Siri with virtually unlimited integrations with apps, opening it up significantly.
 
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Is hey Siri working really bad for anyone else? I literally have to scream HEY SIRIIIIIII 3 times in a row for it to activate while I can be in the other room, listen to music and Alexa will still hear me
 
Honestly I cant tell the difference since it was released in 2011. "Shortcuts" are smoke and mirrors because it CANT DO ANYTHING. There are graphical updates that make you think its new and flash when its not. The speed might be quicker which is nice, becasue if I want an incorrect response I would like to know about it sooner than later. But it really has not changed, and only good for setting an Alarm.
Shortcuts can do a ton. I’m at a swim meet right now and “hey Siri show me the next swim event” brings up my kids next heat and lane assignments within Siri’s interface.
 
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Shortcuts can do a ton. I’m at a swim meet right now and “hey Siri show me the next swim event” brings up my kids next heat and lane assignments within Siri’s interface.

Did Siri suggest and set that up for you at a click of the button?
 
Are you sure about that? Plenty of us know that you’re either lying or ignorant on the topic. Go read some of the responses and view the videos in this thread. Siri does far more than set alarms. There is plenty of evidence to contradict your claim.

Are Alexa’s Skills “smoke and mirrors”? Shortcuts augments Siri with virtually unlimited integrations with apps, opening it up significantly.
The only thing Siri does well is speak multiple languages. But she's still terrible compared to other assistants. I shouldn't have to tell my virtual assistant what to learn to make it even slightly useful.

I have one routine for my Google Home. That's all I need because Google Assistant is great
 
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