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Apple Execs Say Spatial Computing Is 'Inevitable' and AI Is a 'Marathon, Not a Sprint'
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Not at that price not at the weight … On the other hand competition makes it better everyday … I believe they will make it right on time
imamacperson
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Maybe the Neo is not junk from a parts point of view but it's junk from a technological point of view. 8 gb of ram is ridiculous and no upgrade options after you buy it. 512gb hd too small for a lot of people and you can't get a larger hd if you want.
Vision Pro is amazing. By far my favorite Apple device and I use it for hours each day, including right now. Thus, I was quite happy to hear the comments by Ternus.
ThomasJL
macrumors 68020
Ever since Tim Cook became CEO, Apple has abandoned innovation and instead has been trying to maximize profits by jumping on whatever the latest tech industry bandwagons have been. Cook is an MBA, and therefore does not think outside the box like Steve Jobs, but rather thinks inside the box like business schools. That’s why Cook fired Apple’s most Jobs-like innovative visionary, Scott Forstall, and instead acts like a typical MBA who looks up to colossally mediocre people from firms like McKinsey and Goldman Sachs.
baconcat_8964
macrumors 6502
robertosh
macrumors 65816
Maybe the Neo is a symptom of something not going as expected at Apple? I mean, this move is strange, they could have released a device like that long time ago, but Apple always wanted to keep with premium prices and high end devices. Reducing quality of components and releasing something accessible to pretty much everyone is a rare thing, never seen at Apple.
My bet is that they just wanted to aggressively increase the mac user base, the more people in the ecosystem, more potential service subscriptions and market for other Apple devices. I don't think that they will get rich selling just the Neo's but if you think it as a whole (services + other devices) it may be very good commercially.
My bet is that they just wanted to aggressively increase the mac user base, the more people in the ecosystem, more potential service subscriptions and market for other Apple devices. I don't think that they will get rich selling just the Neo's but if you think it as a whole (services + other devices) it may be very good commercially.
Chatbots are becoming AI, they were not originally AI. Apple has been doing machine learning for a long time in other areas like image categorization.
Mr_Ed
macrumors 65816
Leading us “where”, is exactly the problem. Apple doesn’t seem to know either beyond media consumption and “I’d like a floating monitor.”
As you noted, hand tracking was around long before the AVP, but the reason it was an “option” is that unlike the AVP, other devices embraced the only use case actually keeping the entire category of products alive: gaming. They had/have controllers as the primary input.
VR/AR/MR UIs with floating elements, including icons, are obviously not new either, so does that mean Apple “copied” that? No. It’s pretty much a necessity and falls out as the natural way to do a UI in those environments, so they don’t get to claim extra brownie points for that.
The AVP hardware is definitely impressive but let’s face it: it is nothing more than natural evolution of the technology, as in a “spec bump.” What matters is how it would be used, and that is where Apple has failed to make a compelling case for “spatial computing.”
DrJR
macrumors 6502a
That is correct. Without capitalism none of this would exist…..
nickdalzell1
macrumors 68040
iMac The Knife
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dlopan
macrumors 6502
AI is going to be a marathon of lawsuits. Most of the major AI companies steal the majority of the data that goes into the training models. They’re selling stock and subscriptions on top of massive theft.
WarmWinterHat
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Not in a device that covers your face and makes you look like dork that is isolated from the world.
Happy_John
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No, The AVP as such won't. It's turned out to be an Apple Lisa. But like the Lisa, I think a lot of very good stuff came out of the development process of it, and that tech will be recycled into a lot of different Apple products - gesture controls being a good example - they're gong to be added to a lot of Apple products: AirPods, Glasses etc. It's what came out of the R&D that will lead "spacial computing" (or whatever you want to call it).
Happy_John
macrumors 65816
That's the fundamental problem with all headsets. The reality is that Apple's (or any headset producer's) customers are not all singletons living alone, and it's never not going to be weird and uncomfortable to be in a room with someone wearing a headset.
Because of this, "pass through" is a dead-end, or at least an awkward middle-stage, and "see through" is where it has to go.
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nickdalzell1
macrumors 68040
Anyone who's pro-AI has obviously never seen films such as 2001: A Space Odyssey, Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, I, Robot, or Oblivion.
Those films were meant as warnings, not as guides or the path forward. AI makes me cringe. It should make anyone do the same. Talk about a solution in search of yet another problem. Let's not forget the massive water use and environmental damage it's causing.
Other than medical, tech has stopped solving actual problems since 1992. Everything after is just putting it where it shouldh't belong, see: LCD screens and apps on a refrigerator or washing machine, a drive-thru being ran by an AI algorithm at Taco Bell, and glass coolers being replaced with screens on the doors that can't even get the inventory right.
Exactly. Jobs took risks. Some worked some didn’t. Cook is all about profit