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Take away the services growth. Tim continues to stifle innovation and prostitute shareholders as a CEO while running Apple as a COO. Luca Maestri has more to do with the numbers lining up that Tim could even attempt. The fact that EPS and revenue hit targets in no way establishes any proof of innovation, competence, quality of product. It simply means you have astronomical margins, and people who with pay $700 for a $500 device. No 5% gain in iPhone without the Note 7 failure either.
The name really should be Apple Media inc.
And yet with those astronomical margins and high prices, Apple manufactured, sold, and delivered to customers 861k correctly priced iPhones every day for the last quarter.
"The fact that EPS and revenue hit targets in no way establishes any proof of innovation, competence, quality of product."
Well, the 861k people who opened their wallet everyday last quarter to purchase an iPhone would strongly disagree with you.
Not if the component supply chain is in Asia. Also, US is a minority of Apple sales globally.
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So that means we won't be seeing your posts anymore...?
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But it's true. Today's sellers are new products, and they were in the pipeline in years past. That's how it works. Products don't fall off trees or design themselves.
It's all smoke & mirrors tho, new/old/revived/forgotten market segments and product lines, what goes up or down or sideways, fads that flare up or go MIA for no reason, time frames, product lines grouped or separated from one another, etc.
Earning statements are a funny thing, you can arrange numbers in any way you want to make yourself look your best. Apple does this very well, as do all other major corps.
At the moment I think that the Apple Pipeline is as empty as the one that President T wants built in the Dakotas.
Sorry but that is how I see it.
The responses in this thread are littered with people who are just hoping for Apple to fail. The "Windows here I come" folks; "they offer nothing I would buy"; the "abandonment" claims and the pure skeptics are just too funny.
My only regret at buying my new 13" MBP is that I didn't spend more and buy the 15". That said, this is the best Mac I've ever owned.
There is no malaise at Apple as some (including me) have suggested. New iMacs will be out this year which should satisfy many who want a new desktop. If, as expected, the new iPhone includes the rumored design and features we expect it will be a runaway success. I will get one to replace my still rocking iPhone 6 but I'm sure I'll have to wait because demand will be enormous.
With Apple's huge cash hoard they can be patient with their development. I don't see any earth shattering predictions for its competitors coming up with brilliant new products. The Echo/Alexa? Please.
The anti-Apple crowd here (remarkable there are so many on an Apple forum) is just "whistling past the graveyard."
My only regret at buying my new 13" MBP is that I didn't spend more and buy the 15". That said, this is the best Mac I've ever owned.
There is no malaise at Apple as some (including me) have suggested. New iMacs will be out this year which should satisfy many who want a new desktop. If, as expected, the new iPhone includes the rumored design and features we expect it will be a runaway success. I will get one to replace my still rocking iPhone 6 but I'm sure I'll have to wait because demand will be enormous.
With Apple's huge cash hoard they can be patient with their development. I don't see any earth shattering predictions for its competitors coming up with brilliant new products. The Echo/Alexa? Please.
The anti-Apple crowd here (remarkable there are so many on an Apple forum) is just "whistling past the graveyard."
Exactly. Take away the services, the iPhone, the iPad, the Mac, the watch and the Apple TV – what is left? Nothing. Apple is doomed.
Look, I want Apple to succeed in the long-term. I really do.
But their computer lineup sucks.
So what can we (that need real computers--not just iOS devices) do, but wait? Wait and hope that Apple takes some of those huge profits and does something about their aging (real) computers that doesn't involve a process of elimination and compromise (like the TBMBP).
I don't see Apple losing much in the near term.
This will be a gradual, snowball-like oblivion if they keep going the way they've been.
But hey, maybe not. They may survive and thrive on an iOS-only or all-soldered Mac product line.
No matter what happens, this year will be interesting to see if and how Apple wins or loses.
But their computer lineup sucks.
So what can we (that need real computers--not just iOS devices) do, but wait? Wait and hope that Apple takes some of those huge profits and does something about their aging (real) computers that doesn't involve a process of elimination and compromise (like the TBMBP).
I don't see Apple losing much in the near term.
This will be a gradual, snowball-like oblivion if they keep going the way they've been.
But hey, maybe not. They may survive and thrive on an iOS-only or all-soldered Mac product line.
No matter what happens, this year will be interesting to see if and how Apple wins or loses.
You need vision to do that. There is none at Apple, that I can see.
I think it's a mistake to to think today's Apple is the same as the Apple of the past, when Steve Jobs is no longer around.
But maybe, if we get some new blood...
Apple should lower the Mac Pro price by $1000 if they're not going to update the frickin thing.
Amazing how people are content with Apple because they make money.
Money doesn't equal a happy customer.
Many of us want Apple to start innovating their products .
Siri, iOS, Apple maps, mail, calendar ,etc aren't world class.
Money doesn't equal a happy customer.
Many of us want Apple to start innovating their products .
Siri, iOS, Apple maps, mail, calendar ,etc aren't world class.
And they could afford to give each of us a million dollars. Why would either thing be good for their business?
If moving a large percentage of their manufacturing to the USA was something that would help them, they would already be here.
Do you think those two products bring in THAT MUCH profit? If they did, they'd be refreshed a lot more often.
I hope Tim mentions the next iMac. I'm betting it'll be an "iPad on a Stick", thinner than ever with no ports.
Keep living the Dream.
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I would not go that far. However, they really are no longer an innovator. I can make quite a bit of money using a 2010 Accord with Uber. I'm providing a service. Not improving it.
They aren't squeezing out profit. Their R&D budget keeps growing at a very fast pace. So they are spending tones of money for innovation. They've also just spent a massive amount of money on their headquarters, which is not going to help their profit numbers. Finally they are regularly investing in long term renewable energy sources for their data center. These have huge upfront costs and probably won't really payoff on savings for years from now.
"Money doesn't equal a happy customer."
It's not about money. Apple manufactured, sold and delivered 861 thousand iPhones EVERY DAY for the last quarter to customers who were happy and pleased with the level of innovation to open their wallets and make a purchase.
They keep coming back in huge numbers, opening their wallets, as they have done in previous years. If that doesn't speak to being a "happy customer" and being satisfied with the level of innovation, I don't know what does.
Cost is only part of the problem. Skilled factories and laborers are the others.