My brother in Steve Jobs, that’s not how anyone rational wants to use a computer. A few galaxy brain geeks on the internet type things like that. People in real life don’t want to look like Tom Cruise Minority Report or Johnny Mnemonic.
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My brother in Steve Jobs, that’s not how anyone rational wants to use a computer. A few galaxy brain geeks on the internet type things like that. People in real life don’t want to look like Tom Cruise Minority Report or Johnny Mnemonic.
I’m talking about emulating the experience and control of spray paint, not the software algorithms that control the virtual paint. A VR controller can more accurately mimic the action of spray painting than a mouse or stylus. Instead of intentionally being combative, please ask me to clarify if you don’t understand what I’m saying. This isn’t a battle.
When you spray paint, you aren’t physically touching a surface. You can adjust the distance from the surface to adjust the spray radius, you can adjust the tilt of the nozzle to adjust the shape of the spray area.
Oh God it just gets worse, no texture design uses a single device just to use a single tool.
Stop. You waste your time and make people giggle gaggle in their chair.
Are you going to recommend typing long emails and doing spread sheets with air typing next?
How can they do better than the laws of physics allows them to?
They're Apple, but they're not gods.
Go to macrumors 2006 archives you said exactly what so many commenters were saying about the upcoming rumored iphone release
You haven't tried VR yet. That's the problem.
If you tried this headset, I'm sure you'd be sold on VR long before any Holodeck. No one actually needs a Holodeck - they just need VR as it exists today to mature.
Funny how reading the comments about how this won’t sell, no one will want this, it’s a niche product etc. exactly what they were saying about rumored iphone in 2006. Go to Macrumors archives and see for yourself.
VR solves many problems. Distance being the biggest one. Having a tech that lets people have realistic experiences of going to places, people, and events is a big deal. I mean the corded telephone changed the world and it just transmitted voice; VR can transmit your presence.
You have to understand this isn't a future tech lover forum. This is a mainstream comfort-zone tech lover forum. People here do not get out of their comfort zone. They would have laughed at the iPhone rumors before it was revealed.
Which is why MacRumors folks are almost always wrong with predictions.
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They didn't actually. You forget that this forum predates the iPhone by a great number of years. While no one predicted everything about it precisely, there was in fact a lot of excitement here surrounding its launch.
There was plenty of skepticism back then.
People just can't get out of their comfort zone. They only know what they know, and it takes a visionary to see into future technology.
It wasn't everyone, but it was very much there in similar ratio to the skeptics in this thread.
Both the Oculus and HTC Vive VR headsets were both commercially available in 2016 and yet neither has taken the world by storm. Whilst it has been close to 6 years that both devices have been commercially available, VR is still considered to be in it's infancy (depends on who you talk to or read). Designers both hardware and software, inventors, software programmers have had 6 years to come up with something to wet the appitite of buyers but nothing has transpired. All such people have had 6 years to come up something that will entice the masses to take on VR but they haven't so the natural question would be, if these people are not coming up with kick ass applications for the current VR devices out there on the market, what makes Apple think that such people will do the same for Apple?
Thinking out the box here, maybe Apple could develop an app that would link their VR headset to an iphone to be able to answer and make calls, to facetime in VR with other iphone users. Also have it voice activated so if doing something in VR the user could instantly switch to the iphone to by using voice commands via Siri. Youn, things like if the iphone is ringing the user could say 'answer iphone' and an image of the iphone appears in the VR headset showing who is calling and then something like 'facetime' so the call is switched to face time in the VR headset.
Apple would be in the unique position to do something like this because they make the hardware and software therefore they are not restricted to 3rd party companies to come up with solutions which would have to happen with Oculus or Hive if they wanted to interact with Android phones.
Yes it sounds all sc-fi gimmick but it would most certainly be possible.
Thinking out the box here, maybe Apple could develop an app that would link their VR headset to an iphone to be able to answer and make calls, to facetime in VR with other iphone users. Also have it voice activated so if doing something in VR the user could instantly switch to the iphone to by using voice commands via Siri. Youn, things like if the iphone is ringing the user could say 'answer iphone' and an image of the iphone appears in the VR headset showing who is calling and then something like 'facetime' so the call is switched to face time in the VR headset.
Apple would be in the unique position to do something like this because they make the hardware and software therefore they are not restricted to 3rd party companies to come up with solutions which would have to happen with Oculus or Hive if they wanted to interact with Android phones.
Yes it sounds all sc-fi gimmick but it would most certainly be possible.
✋Hands up who won’t be buying one of these?
Too expensive and likely lacking features as a first attempt knowing Apple. The year after they will release what they should have released in 2023 disappointing those people who dropped 2 grand the year before.
I wouldn't buy them if they were $5. I just see no area where they would be a benefit.
Communication, exercise, live events, media/entertainment - those are some pretty immediate benefits.
6 years is nothing in the tech world. Most platform shifts take 15 years to take off, and even long to become ubiquitous.
The VR/AR company wars won't start paying off fully until the 2030s.
Let's also keep in mind that price predictions from before a product's release can be way off.
The iPad was predicted to be twice as much as what it actually was: https://seekingalpha.com/article/179800-fresh-from-the-applevine-tablet-next-month
The iPad was predicted to be twice as much as what it actually was: https://seekingalpha.com/article/179800-fresh-from-the-applevine-tablet-next-month
Everyone will change their mind when they try a mature form of VR/AR glasses, even if it's 10+ years from now.
Not one person is going to wait for a Holodeck. That would be pointless - like someone waiting for a quantum computer before they start using a personal computer.
If it'll let me simulate a Mac with six displays, I'll buy two of them, one for each eyeball.
Got a phone for that and I hate video calls.
Somehow I don't see any benefit to having VR or AR for that, exercise is work and doesn't need any alt-reality help. I can kind of see something like a peleton and riding a stationary bike, but that's still seems too gimicky to me.
Er, isn't the idea of a live event to be there in person to see it for yourself.
As for entertainment, yeah maybe, but the necessity of having that hanging on your face seems like a hinderance to me. Give me a good TV and a good speaker system and a room to use them in, that seems a better idea for me.
I worry about focusing on the eyes too much, there's just so much variation in people's eyes that it would all be total guesswork finding a set that would work for individuals. For instance, I don't have that great of vision. When I was younger, I had nearsightedness and astigmatism, now, after cataract surgery, I have eyes tuned for computer work, and to top it all off, I have Duane syndrome. Duane syndrome is a eye muscle problem from birth that means my eyes don't focus together, nor even track together. (when looking through a particular eye, the other one turns in, kind of like cross eyed on that side.) I'm an extreme case, I know, and probably can never use something like this, but I think people underestimate how differences in vision run the gamut of possibilities and VR makers would have to be able to adjust for various difference and I'm betting that they haven't even thought of that yet. Up to 20% of people don't even see in 3D for instance. At least out in real reality <g>, we all have our ways of adjusting to the circumstance, but in a fixed focus screen plastered in front of our eyes, our brains just wont be able to handle it.
Eyes and vision are one of the most complex things I know of. Only the brain is more complex, and that's what you really have to fool, no matter how the person sees.