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I'm over 40. I wear contacts. Sometimes it's harder to focus at typical smartphone distance, but I have no issues focusing in VR while wearing contacts.
Maybe most people over 40 need vision correction of some sort, but most people over 40 don't regularly wear glasses. The focus distance of the Vision Pro should be further than the typical reading distance.

Likely in the 1 to 2 meter range.

This says that you need to upload the prescription "after checkout," so no one has to worry about figuring it out as they rush to preorder.

The physical displays are like an inch from your eyes. That's not reading distance. What is important is where the built-in lenses adjust the focus distance to. And that's typically in the 1 to 2 meter range for VR headsets. And the Vision Pro is fundamentally a VR headset.

You won't want any kind of multi-focal lens. You'll want to use the prescription that works best in the 1 to 2 meter range.

See above.
I spoke with an Apple rep about the lens prescription requirements He seemed intrigued by the question and asked several members of his team. I could hear them discussing it and quickly realized they didn’t know the answer… although they had several different opinions.
I let them know I have a reading distance, and combination progressive prescription. I wanted to know specifically which prescription I should submit.
Rather than just making an assumption, or taking a chance, I would prefer that Apple send out an update before next Friday, so I can understand the logic. The rep DID say that not knowing your prescription will definitely not impact the delivery of your VP.… assuming you can get one. Apple apparently just wants to make sure you have your lenses when you receive the device.
 
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Nor should you if it doesn't seem like it'll do anything you want it to.

Using less words, internally my explanation is really just "I can afford it, and I'm quite curious whether this is indeed crap or a neat early version of what will eventually evolve into something really useful in 2034."

Probably a dumb waste of money to find out myself, but at least then I'll know instead of confidently bashing something I've never actually tried, which I've managed to make myself look like an idiot in the past by doing.

Well said. I'm looking forward to your real life personal assessment of AVP after you've had it for a few weeks/months. No doubt others here feel the same.

As an aside, in your post you used the word curious. IMO, being curious and having a healthy imagination is what a good portion of life is about. Unfortunately, some people, for some reason, seem to intentionally keep that locked away in a closet. That's really sad.


I suspect the everyday reflexive bashing occurs because it helps people feel good.
 
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If you can afford it and your motivation is “I’m curious what is this!” And not “I’m buying it to show off”, my message to you is: I hope you have a lovely time and it’s a purchase you’re really glad you made.

I cannot afford it and to others like me, please do not spend money you cannot afford on this! 😂 much love all.
 
I still don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing that I can neither order it or test it out in *my local area*.

What's great is the $3.499 + unreasonable Euro fees/taxes that I'm saving.

And the 2nd or 3rd Gen. will probably be a lot better than the 1st Gen. if we consider Apple's previous new product launches.

It's all good. That's what I'm telling myself.

..while I'm actively looking up which convention shows or stores might showcase it in Europe. 🙃
 
I can't take this thing seriously whilst it still has a external battery pack connected via cable attached to it. Apple should have waited until advancements allowed an all-in-one unit. Very un-Apple as it is.
Why? Do you see yourself walking around outside with it? I believe this generation is an indoors device. The Apple Vision Pro Air will take some new battery tech/chip tech to be a thing. This ain't Google Glass. Slip the battery in your pocket or leave in on your desk, relax and enjoy.
 
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I spoke with an Apple rep about the lens prescription requirements He seemed intrigued by the question and asked several members of his team. I could hear them discussing it and quickly realized they didn’t know the answer… although they had several different opinions.
I let them know I have a reading distance, and combination progressive prescription. I wanted to know specifically which prescription I should submit.
Rather than just making an assumption, or taking a chance, I would prefer that Apple send out an update before next Friday, so I can understand the logic. The rep DID say that not knowing your prescription will definitely not impact the delivery of your VP.… assuming you can get one. Apple apparently just wants to make sure you have your lenses when you receive the device.

Fun. As someone who wears glasses and has enough astigmatism that contacts are out, and has both a progressive pair and a monitor pair, I trust Apple's OMG Zeiss!!! lenses about as far as I can throw them.
 
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It's not the $100 - it's the (apparent, but not sure) fact that I can only order these inserts at the same time as the Vision Pro itself. I don't have a current prescription, so I'd have to go get one before pre-order time. I'd prefer to be able to pre-order now, test it with contacts, and if it's to my liking, order the lenses later. I've done that for my Quest headsets.
That's what I'm planning to do. I can use the Quest 3 without lenses, even though I wear bifocals in real life. I'm hoping for the same experience with Apple Vision Pro. If I need prescription lenses, I'll have to make an appointment with the eye doctor.
 
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I'm hoping Dan and Hartley can get an AVP to test out for a few weeks and do an assessment of the device in a video review.

It would be great if MR can borrow one for that purpose.
 
I’m kind of curious about this thing but I just don’t see myself wanting to wear a bulky sweaty thing on my face. I already stopped using the AirPods Max because they were so much less comfortable than standard AirPods, so I’m thinking I probably wouldn’t like heavy goggles either.
 
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What’s the realistic after market price for one of these going to be - $5k? That’s a good profit for a couple weeks inventory.
 
I'm over 40. I wear contacts. Sometimes it's harder to focus at typical smartphone distance, but I have no issues focusing in VR while wearing contacts.
Maybe most people over 40 need vision correction of some sort, but most people over 40 don't regularly wear glasses. The focus distance of the Vision Pro should be further than the typical reading distance.

Likely in the 1 to 2 meter range.

This says that you need to upload the prescription "after checkout," so no one has to worry about figuring it out as they rush to preorder.

The physical displays are like an inch from your eyes. That's not reading distance. What is important is where the built-in lenses adjust the focus distance to. And that's typically in the 1 to 2 meter range for VR headsets. And the Vision Pro is fundamentally a VR headset.

You won't want any kind of multi-focal lens. You'll want to use the prescription that works best in the 1 to 2 meter range.

See above.
"Likely in the 1 to 2 meter range."

1 meter would be my reading glasses prescription. 2 meters would be my regular glasses prescription.

When you click on the "prepare for pre-order" pane in the Apple Store App it says: "When you order, we'll ask a few quick questions to find out if you need optical inserts. If you do, you'll upload a valid, unexpired prescription from a U.S. eye-care professional after checkout." (see my attached file)

I chatted with a "specialist" about this and they said: "Just have to wait and see how it works when pre orders start next Friday!"

Why not friggin' provide those "quick questions" in advance so we know what the heck we are doing on Friday morning... in advance!?
 

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Have fun all of you that will be test-pilots for these 'scubas' in US.
Will take a few yrs before they arrive to Europe/Sweden anyway.
Not the slightest interested in them at this time. Who knows in a few yrs?
 
If we get this and it doesn't live up to the hype, is there any reason to believe it wouldn't be covered by the 14 day return policy?
 
These things feel like aged technology before they even comes out to me.
Prescriptions for eye adjustments? 😂
Have Apple never heard about progressive lenses. Why haven’t Apple worked with people who are in the front of these things?
The Apple scubas should adjust to each persons eyes automatically. Everything else is just ********.
 
These things feel like aged technology before they even comes out to me.
Prescriptions for eye adjustments? 😂
Have Apple never heard about progressive lenses. Why haven’t Apple worked with people who are in the front of these things?
The Apple scubas should adjust to each persons eyes automatically. Everything else is just ********.
This is an "interesting" take.

I'm sure Apple have heard about progressive lenses. I certainly have (I wearing a pair right now as I tap out this reply), and even a dunce like me realises why they are completely irrelevant to a VR headset.

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Of course the irony - regarding your observation - on my not needing to rely on my progressive lenses when using the Apple Vision Pro is not lost on me, and nor I suspect is it lost on the majority of - if I may be so bold as to make the completely unintended pun - readers.
 
These things feel like aged technology before they even comes out to me.
Prescriptions for eye adjustments? 😂
Have Apple never heard about progressive lenses. Why haven’t Apple worked with people who are in the front of these things?
The Apple scubas should adjust to each persons eyes automatically. Everything else is just ********.
VR/AR headsets have certainly been around for a while, but Apple’s decision to replace the user’s eyeglasses with integral corrective lenses apparently offers an improved visual experience that they deemed worth the added hassle for them and for the consumers.

If by progressive lenses you mean lenses that provide an area for distance vision, reading vision, and an area that blends the two, then yes, even the CEO, age 63, is aware of them. If you are referring different technology, I am certain that Apple is aware of it as well.

[For all we know, something vastly improved is in the works, but Apple wants the software development to move forward while the hardware catches up, regardless of the inconvenience.]
 
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