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Part of my tablet experience is using the pencil too. It's impossible with the magic keyboard without carrying another cover, so it's much more than 200g. Combo touch has a detachable keyboard part, it's much better foe the "tablet experience" than the magic keyboard. And as I said above, any ipad is unusable with pencil without a cover, because if a stupid overspeced camera much less people asked for than a mini iphone.
It’s not impossible, I’ve been doing it for years.
 
Same here, I use an iPad Pro for the majority of my work. I create presentations, build spreadsheets, etc etc.

I even did my graduate level class I had as continuing education for my job all on my iPad Pro.

The whole “the iPad isn’t adequate” is an easily debunked argument. I really think it’s about as weak as the “walled garden” argument. Both are elementary level arguments…

This is perhaps too reductionist.

"the iPad isn't adequate" isn't a matter of being a good or bad argument that's "easily debunked".

It's a subjective assessment that is completely dependent upon what someone is trying to do with it.

iPads can do all kinds of work very well, as you've noted ... and are also totally inadequate for other types of work.
 
They should at least make the new multitasking optional. They are ruing the experience for the tablet users with each hw/sw update. I use my M4 in portrait 99% of the time, and it's really annoying to authenticate with Face Id as is camera is naturally covered while holding in portrait.
It is optional, you don’t have to use multitasking.
 
They should at least make the new multitasking optional. They are ruing the experience for the tablet users with each hw/sw update. I use my M4 in portrait 99% of the time, and it's really annoying to authenticate with Face Id as is camera is naturally covered while holding in portrait.
It’s optional, according to many people posting here about the beta.
 
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GOOD. The iPad should NEVER run a Mac. It's a ridiculously stupid idea. Touch first devices should run touch first operating systems.

Those who want a Mac on an iPad should just buy a freaking Mac. 🤦‍♂️

Well at the moment, iPad Pro M4 has the best and biggest display of all Apple products. Tandem OLED, 13", perfect black, great brightness and contrast. No Macs have that and that counts for something.
 
Well at the moment, iPad Pro M4 has the best and biggest display of all Apple products. Tandem OLED, 13", perfect black, great brightness and contrast. No Macs have that and that counts for something.
Nope. Apple isn't the only manufacturer to make Tandem OLED. Plug a Mac into a third party Tandem OLED display.
 
Nope. Apple isn't the only manufacturer to make Tandem OLED. Plug a Mac into a third party Tandem OLED display.

Like I said, Apple product. Obviously, you can plug any Mac (or any computer) to an OLED monitor, but for a built-in display, Mac has nothing to compare to iPad Pro's display. So that has to count for something.
 
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As long as the iPadOS remains closed in a way that you cannot compile and run your own programs, including command line programs, iPad remains limited.
 
Once macOS goes Apple Silicon only next year, they can lock the firmware down like an iOS/iPadOS device. Although, I still believe the future of Mac is iPad Pro.

That would be sad: I would be forced to switch ecosystem from Apple to something else.
 
The real reason is so that they keep selling Mac books. just in imagine if iPads had Mac OS on it. It would be no need for people to buy MacBooks and besides iOS,iPadOS,and macOS are extreme ram hogs most of it is just visual affects. On iOS you can turn off apple intelligence. The ram management is still bad. They found a sneaker way to make people upgrade their phones because when the official release of ios26 come out to the public a lot of older phones will be slowing down.using ram cleaning apps on iOS is a waste of time because the apps don’t have full access.
 
Like I said, Apple product. Obviously, you can plug any Mac (or any computer) to an OLED monitor, but for a built-in display, Mac has nothing to compare to iPad Pro's display. So that has to count for something.

We're discussing why iPad should never run a Mac. If a Mac can use a display better than iPad, then your argument about Tandem OLED iPads doesn't really hold up. It doesn't really count for anything because the Mac can do XYZ better than the iPad.
 
It feels like they're going to really screw up the iPad for traditional simple light users if they aren't careful here.
perhaps yes. But the complexity that non tech people who are used to iPads really boils down to multitasking and multiple windows. The new way is substantially less confusing than stage manager, even the weird round pointer was an odd choice. At least on one hand they have made it more traditional in the way it’s apparent what to do to anyone that’s even seen a computer. On the other hand it’s right in the set up to turn it all off completely and have the iPad behave as an iPad. As long as that’s a feature then they’re doing nothing to change the normal iPad experience.
 
To actually be productive the iPad is way way way more complex than macOS. People have been jumping hoops and loops to get the thing going. There was one guy that for a a couple years used nothing but the iPad to be productive until he gave up and bought and surrendered to macOS.

PS: I don’t see macOS adopting the best of iPad. Actually is adopting mostly the worst, take stage manager for instance. how bad is that?

PS: By the way. I bought almost versions of iPads since inception. I stopped with the iPad Pro 12" just before it turned M.
 
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We're discussing why iPad should never run a Mac. If a Mac can use a display better than iPad, then your argument about Tandem OLED iPads doesn't really hold up. It doesn't really count for anything because the Mac can do XYZ better than the iPad.
And my point remains, as Mac does better job as a “real work” computer, Apple keeps Macs in check when it comes to some hardware features.

Apple makes sure iPad holds up and differentiates with best built-in display, touchscreen, Pencil support, iPhone-level cameras and lighter chassis. Give those away to Mac and sure, no point of selling iPad Pros.
 
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Same here, I use an iPad Pro for the majority of my work. I create presentations, build spreadsheets, etc etc.

I even did my graduate level class I had as continuing education for my job all on my iPad Pro.

The whole “the iPad isn’t adequate” is an easily debunked argument. I really think it’s about as weak as the “walled garden” argument. Both are elementary level arguments…
Perhaps at some point to make iPad even better for computer replacement use cases Files could behave more Finder-like and get a fixed leftmost position on the dock on every iPad like on every Mac (and gain the smiling face), and perhaps one or the other app should be renamed. Maybe Files is the more logical name now? And then, after, should iPad gain a trash bin and a desktop? A step too far or a good call? As for macOS, System Settings should return to the prior UI as its a better use of screen space for the app, and should be named “Settings”.
 
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Perhaps at some point to make iPad even better for computer replacement use cases Files could behave more Finder-like and get a fixed leftmost position on the dock on every iPad like on every Mac (and gain the smiling face), and perhaps one or the other app should be renamed. Maybe Files is the more logical name now? And then, after, should iPad gain a trash bin and a desktop? A step too far or a good call? As for macOS, System Settings should return to the prior UI as its a better use of screen space for the app, and should be named “Settings”.
It's the iPad file system that I find very different to the more simple oe on my MacBook Air. - Saving, moving and opening files on iPad is more difficult than on MacBook - maybe I should think differently on iPad ?
 
It's the iPad file system that I find very different to the more simple oe on my MacBook Air. - Saving, moving and opening files on iPad is more difficult than on MacBook - maybe I should think differently on iPad ?
If you find something a simple as opening files more difficult on iPadOS then it needs to be addressed. How would you make it simpler if your feedback was to be heeded?
 
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