Apple Explains Why It Removed TikTok From the App Store in the U.S.

[thadoggfather]

Empty land doesn’t vote, and those urban blue areas account for 80% of the population and 90% of the economic output of this country.

Coastal elitism on full display for all to see.
Please never change your ways - for the sake of ensuring the present unelectable nature of your party and its 'causes' in perpetuity.

Same energy:

 

[aidler]

This is just ridiculous to see in America.
This is exactly how dictatorship established in russia — first they ban or restrict something that seems so insignificant. A bunch of people complain online but no one takes a real action.
This is how those who handle the power realize they can do basically anything. And they might do that. Or might not. But do you really wanna check out where they would draw the line that won’t affect you personally? I am as a citizen of the country that allowed all of that **** to happen and then just invaded the other country. This crap escalates because these old men are this hungry.
Yeah, some of you might say it’s just an app, no big deal, there are more serious issues within the country than a ban of TikTok and you might be right. But this is how they take away your power to address the issues.
Please, take care and keep your eyes wide open!

I respect everything you wrote, but I personally think that the election of a wannabe dictator in the US is way more worrying than the banning of a propaganda app under the control of a hostile nation.

 

[aidler]

So the American government cannot take action to prevent a foreign adversary from conducting a honeypot operation on American citizens and then using that data to conduct psychological warfare?

TikTok is the online version of a white van with free candy painted on the outside. Free candy sounds great and people like free candy but then don't like what actually comes next.

China does not have the military dominance to take on the US 1v1. They can and are very good at the new type of warfare that is emerging. Its psychological and its going to be very bad.

China is actively preparing to take Taiwan in the next 2-4 years. Their preparations for this are very transparent for anyone paying attention.

When this eventually happens, they are going to have to wage an information warfare too.

The fact that they have a direct connection to a big portion of the American youth is very frightening.

If I could I would have double liked this. 🙌

 

[surferfb]

Because Apple applies to the US laws 😂
So why is it so hard for Apple to follow the EU laws? Apple follows China laws as well.

It’s a lot harder to follow laws when those writing them insist “the words written in the law don’t actually mean what they say - they mean what we (a bunch of bureaucrats who tried to mandate all phones have micro-usb ports and think mandatory browser choice screens are a good user experience) think they mean. And no, we won’t tell you ahead of time if your idea is legal, please build it at considerable expense to your company and then we’ll decide.”

 

[npmacuser5]

This is just ridiculous to see in America.
This is exactly how dictatorship established in russia — first they ban or restrict something that seems so insignificant. A bunch of people complain online but no one takes a real action.
This is how those who handle the power realize they can do basically anything. And they might do that. Or might not. But do you really wanna check out where they would draw the line that won’t affect you personally? I am as a citizen of the country that allowed all of that **** to happen and then just invaded the other country. This crap escalates because these old men are this hungry.
Yeah, some of you might say it’s just an app, no big deal, there are more serious issues within the country than a ban of TikTok and you might be right. But this is how they take away your power to address the issues.
Please, take care and keep your eyes wide open!

We are way beyond this in are march towards a Supreme Leader.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Because Apple applies to the US laws 😂
So why is it so hard for Apple to follow the EU laws? Apple follows China laws as well.

In China, Apple complies because it serves maximizing revenue from China, a gigantic market with much upside potential.

In EU, Apple fights because it risks cutting revenue from a lucrative Company Store model. And as that proves to have no real consequences (we're increasingly close to the 1 year anniversary of the EU laws going into effect and Apple complying- no bank accounts emptied, no criminal syndicates wiping vast populations out, no virus/trojans, etc.), there is risk of the same kind of "more open" demands spreading to other markets. And in fact, that's happening and is very likely to continue to spread.

Fans are mostly OK with Chinese laws because Apple is mostly OK with Chinese laws. Fans abhor EU laws- even if they have ZERO effect on them by them not living within the EU- because Apple is NOT OK with EU laws. And it's as simple as that.

There's 2+ years of hundreds of threads with fans ranting about USB-C being "forced" into iPhones by EU laws. Apple fought to protect the lucrative Lightning option so fans were passionately against the switch. And then Apple complied and apparently all is fine with USB-C in iPhone. I'm still finding pocket lint, haven't seen/heard of even one broken USB-C tongue or any “expensive repairs” due to "wobbly."

In broadest strokes: "We" detest "it" while Apple doesn't embrace it... but then are fine with "it" as soon as they do. Slug in anything for "it". Phablet-size phones. Pay by phone NFC. Front facing camera in iPad Gen 1. 4K while Apple still clung to 1080p. 1080p while Apple still clung to 720p. And on and on.

 

[PowerButton]

… How can China “bury us” with silly short videos ?

I can genuinely discern both perspectives. During the 2020 presidential election, social media platforms hid unfavorable narratives concerning Joe Biden, labeling them as “fake news.” Conversely, they amplified unfavorable stories regarding Donald Trump. Some argue that this strategy contributed to Biden’s victory. Conversely, the 2024 election outcome suggests that this approach may have backfired, potentially aiding Trump’s success.

A significant portion of the population relies heavily on social media for information. This phenomenon can be attributed to a combination of ignorance and confirmation bias. While I do not advocate for government censorship, I acknowledge the substantial influence social media exerts on shaping public opinion.

Therefore, the pertinent question arises: do you believe China would exercise this influence, and if so, to what extent?

 

[I7guy]

[…] The next few days should be entertaining (but hopefully not depressing). TBD.

The word you’re looking for is “glorious”. We’ll see how this plays out.

 

[I7guy]

Because Apple applies to the US laws 😂
So why is it so hard for Apple to follow the EU laws? Apple follows China laws as well.

Because the dma is crap legislation. That was rushed to catch apple and I’m hoping the new administration can apply some pressure to have the eu back off.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

The word you’re looking for is “glorious”. We’ll see how this plays out.

I'll hope so right with you. Bring on the "glorious" for all of us. I hope it rains glory upon all of us.

The bed is now made. We all get to lie in it for at least 2 years. I hope we all get to sleep well.

 

[eltoslightfoot]

Well, TikTok is banned in China as well.

I feel like this might be a slightly overlooked aspect to this whole thing.

 

[sergekills]

I respect everything you wrote, but I personally think that the election of a wannabe dictator in the US is way more worrying than the banning of the propaganda app under the control of a hostile nation.

I'm so sorry you let your government decide what is right and what is not so easily.
However, reading the comments here proves your point that a ton of people are not capable of critical thinking.

 

[CarAnalogy]

Boo boo.
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I would love to see people just delete these social media apps off their phones entirely, all of them. Even when they're not being used for intelligence gathering or mental programming, they just stir drama.

 

[CarAnalogy]

The REPUBS actually have full control of ALL 3 branches of our "check & balance" system starting this week:

• Executive, now with vastly expanded powers and virtually no risk of legal retribution if that power is abused,
• Congress, of which Senate is only half, and
• Judicial.

It is one of those rare times where one party is completely in charge and can just about do anything & everything they want to do... for at least TWO years. Let's hope our collective choices to give one party a "blank check" on power pays off well for all of us. There's basically nothing to "balance" the GOP for 2+ years except any of their own concerns about how the next election- if there is one- may go.

The lone negative about this setup through GOP eyes is that by fully controlling all of it, they also fully own all of what their choices & actions do. There's no "other party" to blame when one party has complete say. So the GOP now fully owns the impacts of whatever they choose to do. If that's all wonderful & great for all, terrific! But if that goes sour, we voters "made our bed... so lie in it." We'll see... likely very soon.

Yeah but didn't the Democrats have the same shot at it for a while there? All they seemed to accomplish with that was breaking the healthcare system and a disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.

It's like how the Biden administration has put in more actual work for the American people in the last two weeks than the last four years. And the ONLY reason for ALL of it was to be some sort of jab at the incoming administration.

Why the hell can't either side put in that kind of work for US, ALL the time? Why can't the media ALWAYS be as critical of EVERYTHING that EVERY president does, like they do with Trump? Trump doesn't do himself any favors, but I can see why he thinks the media is out to get him. Every day it's all horror stories about what Trump has done or will do, no matter what. Nobody else gets that sort of criticism.

And to be very clear, I'm not saying he shouldn't be critically covered by the press, I'm saying they all should.

 

[9081094]

Those people are of no consequence to me. I'm doing very well, as are my friends and family, because we all work hard and are well educated. Please post a link to the stats of how 7 million small American businesses had survived only because of TikTok. I'll wait...

I think he probably mentions those influencers postings. I’m happy they will get banned too.

 

[Dark_Omen]

Apple removed TikTok from the App Store because Timmy and Phil will end up in jail for contempt if they didn't. It's a rather simple explanation.

 

[Wando64]

all this meltdown over a degenerate app

Yes. Who cares that it actually contributes 24 Billion USD yearly to the US economy.

 

[cjsuk]

Pardon me, but you seem to imply that TikTok is unique in this.

Quoting myself and what you quoted, "TikTok, and notably most other big tech owned or managed spaces, are breeding grounds for democracy to be well misinformed."

That includes things as far as the Bezos owned Washington Post...

 

[jwdsail]

Play outside like we did as kids?

I believe that kids these days refer to it as "touching grass"?

I'm fine with that, as long as they stay off of mine.

Kidding kidding...

Mostly.

 

[jwdsail]

I would suggest they stay in and read some books instead.

(Insert "why not both?" gif here)

 

[cjsuk]

(Insert "why not both?" gif here)

Well it's bloody cold at the moment.

Incidentally I just my three to the British Museum and book shopping today. I live and die by my words.

 

[9081094]

Because the dma is crap legislation. That was rushed to catch apple and I’m hoping the new administration can apply some pressure to have the eu back off.

Why is the us banning all most Chinese phones and cars from their market?

 

[contacos]

It's already back

Trump urged TikTok’s partners to allow the app to be restored, saying “the order will also confirm that there will be no liability for any company that helped keep TikTok from going dark before my order.”

“Americans deserve to see our exciting Inauguration on Monday, as well as other events and conversations,” Trump said.

He is such a troll 😅

 

[9081094]

Apple removed TikTok from the App Store because Timmy and Phil will end up in jail for contempt if they didn't. It's a rather simple explanation.

In that case, I wish they didn’t 😂

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Yeah but didn't the Democrats have the same shot at it for a while there? All they seemed to accomplish with that was breaking the healthcare system and a disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.

It's like how the Biden administration has put in more actual work for the American people in the last two weeks than the last four years. And the ONLY reason for ALL of it was to be some sort of jab at the incoming administration.

Why the hell can't either side put in that kind of work for US, ALL the time? Why can't the media ALWAYS be as critical of EVERYTHING that EVERY president does, like they do with Trump? Trump doesn't do himself any favors, but I can see why he thinks the media is out to get him. Every day it's all horror stories about what Trump has done or will do, no matter what. Nobody else gets that sort of criticism.

And do be very clear, I'm not saying he shouldn't be critically covered by the press, I'm saying they all should.

I'm not taking a political side here (or with prior posts)- just pointing out facts that will likely delight some and disappoint others. Our as is system is one that- whatever the outcome of elections- we all then deal with it. And in these rare situations where one party gets ALL keys to the kingdom, there is no "balance" in our so-called "check & balance" system.

Yes, the dems were handed the keys to Congress and the Presidency for 2021-2023... but Judicial was loaded with fresh Trump appointees. There are spans of time where Congress and the Presidency are all controlled by one party. Here's a handy chart to illustrate.

In more distant history, that was "normal" but since about Nixon time, it's been more unusual. Carter & Bush Jr both got back to back 2-year spans of keys to the kingdom (though not necessarily a party bias in the judicial branch too). But otherwise, it's typically been one 2-year term thing, generally following Repub control except for BOTH FIRST terms of Trump.

I hope having complete control of all the branches works well for us all. If results are:

• "glorious", GOP can & should take full credit.
• sour, GOP should take full blame.

I actually suspect GOV prefers some split power so they can avoid doing much of anything and blame each other for the stalemates. Now anything & everything the GOP wants to do can get done. I hope the outcomes are what we all hope will follow. If not, there's little anyone can do until at least 2 years from now. But we also shouldn't be fooled by TV "news" or spin that somehow the party no longer in power in any branch is the cause of any negatives (though I am practically certain that will be the attempted play in the next couple of years for anything "sour" if there is any such thing).