But none of these disproves "large internal memory" and "fast storage".
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Apple Explains Why Stage Manager is Limited to M1 iPads in New Statement
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But none of these disproves "large internal memory" and "fast storage".
You misspelled "people who weren't part of its development but think it should".
I believe Apple's reasons.
that's alright. I'll wait for the M3 3nm model. 14".
the m1 is flawed by design anyway. hoping they correct this on the M3
M2 possibly screwed too.
MIT researchers uncover 'unpatchable' flaw in Apple M1 chips
Apple’s M1 chips have an "unpatchable" hardware vulnerability that could allow attackers to break through its last line of security defenses, MIT researchers have discovered. The vulnerability lies in a hardware-level security mechanism utilized in Apple M1 chips called pointer authentication...www.yahoo.com
That flaw is not just Apple, nor a complete compromise:
Apple has implemented pointer authentication on all of its custom ARM-based silicon so far, including the M1, M1 Pro and M1 Max, and a number of other chip manufacturers, including Qualcomm and Samsung, have either announced or are expected to ship new processors supporting the hardware-level security feature. MIT said it has not yet tested the attack on Apple’s unreleased M2 chip, which also supports pointer authentication.
“If not mitigated, our attack will affect the majority of mobile devices, and likely even desktop devices in the coming years,” MIT said in the research paper.
The researchers — which presented their findings to Apple — noted that the Pacman attack isn’t a “magic bypass” for all security on the M1 chip, and can only take an existing bug that pointer authentication protects against.
I do hope Apple found a fix for the M2.
Apple doesn't have to prove anything. They decided not to do it and that's it.
And then people would complain Apple cut back on features..
and if it didn't some people would defend its worse performance; probably the same ones that would complain about it if Apple had implemented it...
This is the same company that are still selling $1500 laptop with just 8GB of RAM. Not surprised about the out of touch and elitist attitudes.
As long as people buy them they will sell them.
Nothing. Apple decided the performance would not be what they wanted and decided to drop it from non-M1 machines.
Exactly. Apple transitioned to a new chip and it's not unreasonable the would design for it. At least they didn't kill upgrades for older machines completely.
Depends on how you use it. It's great for content, but with Office, Scrivner, and other programs is a viable lapop alternative in many cases.
Excellant point. Apple hasn't bricked the older machines, and unless you absolutely need Stage Manager there is no compelling reason to upgrade.
You are correct, that is the key point Apple is making; and some people are ignoring in an attempt to attribute Apple's actions to nefarious reasons.
Exactly. They are mad they didn't get the new shiny. Their machines still run everything it did when teh bought it, plus some new features. My non-M1 iPad Pro with the Magic Keyboard is still as capable as when I bought it.
To everyone whose iPad-hearts are broken by innovative technology: this too shall pass ✌🏽
Apple: Too many buyers are not willing to upgrade past the 2018 Pro.
Also Apple: Fortunately for us, there’s over 6 billion people in the world that have never bought an iPad before!
Fair enough, and I do acknowledge that it is also a very useful tool for creative people. However, Apple marketed the iPad as a *general* computing device which it really isn't except for basic tasks. Sure, I complete payment for my burrito on an iPad. That's not particularly remarkable. The iPad is even missing native apps like WhatsApp and instagram and is only now getting a basic weather app.
For most, the iPad is great for watching Netflix on a plane, gaming and browsing the web and social media. That's all a lot of people need and I'm not saying it's a bad deal. I just wish Apple would position it more honestly.
I bought one because the old intel Macs are complete garbage and I wanted to keep a foot in the Apple ecosystem. However, now that Apple has finally fixed the Mac and really made it great--it kinda outshines the iPad. The Mac still lacks a few things the iPad has but the margin is more narrow than ever.
In its current form, I can't justify buying a new one in the near future.
Honestly I’m no developer or expert but I feel as though Apple could have at least added downscaled (i.e. without all the external display fanciness) support for Stage Manager down to the latest iPad mini (sixth generation) and perhaps even the iPad (ninth generation). But at this point I’m too familiar with Apple’s upselling and marketing practices to really be that naïve.
Apple doesn’t even need a large number of people to upgrade. There are over 400 million iPads out there, 40+ million will be sold this year and, of those, 20 million are likely to be to folks that have never owned an iPad before. The MAJORITY of folks that currently own iPads could NOT upgrade, and Apple would still sell 40 million.
owner of 11" Pro 2020, 512GB w cellular here... absolutely disgusting that my machine is not receiving this functionality, I'd be OK with a limit (external resolution and number of items on the left side), but to say that I need an M1 now is really piss poor product planning
OTH I should really not be surprised because this approach is really right up there with Tim Cook's fondness for product design & product roadmaps...
It's certainly not a coincidence that Apple has lowered trade-in value of my model recently. However looking at how crippled and counterintuitive iPadOS still is, how expensive the whole tablet game became and how new software is launched as subscription only (looking at you Capture One!) I'll stick with my iPad for now and might not come back to this category ever again. Macs with ASi will provide much better utility to what I do on a computer...time to dust of my Wacom
OTH I should really not be surprised because this approach is really right up there with Tim Cook's fondness for product design & product roadmaps...
It's certainly not a coincidence that Apple has lowered trade-in value of my model recently. However looking at how crippled and counterintuitive iPadOS still is, how expensive the whole tablet game became and how new software is launched as subscription only (looking at you Capture One!) I'll stick with my iPad for now and might not come back to this category ever again. Macs with ASi will provide much better utility to what I do on a computer...time to dust of my Wacom
I wouldn’t say “most”.
At best, it’s the same 100 or so users, nowhere near even half of the thousands that have accounts.Strong disagree. Apple cares very much about the experience quality. If Apple rolled this feature out and it was sub-optimal for iPad Pro users (who didn't have M1 models), they would take a reputation hit.
That’s the spirit! You’ll be much happier in the end.I'll stick with my iPad for now and might not come back to this category ever again. Macs with ASi will provide much better utility to what I do on a computer...time to dust of my Wacom
One of iPadOS 16's key new features is Stage Manager, which allows users to resize apps into overlapping windows for an improved multitasking experience. Stage Manager also fully supports an external display, allowing users to work with up to four apps on the iPad and up to four apps on the external display simultaneously.
To the disappointment of some users, Stage Manager is limited to iPad models with an M1 chip, including the latest iPad Pro and iPad Air. In a statement shared with Rene Ritchie, Apple explained its rationale for this limitation by asserting that the Stage Manager experience "requires large internal memory, incredibly fast storage, and flexible external display I/O, all of which are delivered by iPads with the M1 chip."
Apple's full statement, as shared by Ritchie:For example, the M1 iPad Pro is available with up to 16GB of RAM, compared to 6GB in the previous-generation iPad Pro. Apple also said the M1 iPad Pro has 2x faster storage than the previous-generation model.
While the Stage Manager feature is limited to iPad models with an M1 chip, iPadOS 16 as a whole is compatible with all iPad Pro models, the third-generation iPad Air and newer, the fifth-generation iPad and newer, and the fifth-generation iPad mini and newer. The update is currently in beta for developers, with Apple planning to release a public beta in July. iPadOS 16 should be released to all users around September.
Article Link: Apple Explains Why Stage Manager is Limited to M1 iPads in New Statement
Sounds more like a Marketing sound bite than a real explanation.
I've just swallowed the - somewhat bitter - pill.
I'll be going out to pick up my newly ordered M1 iPad Air from the store in a couple of minutes.
Then do the migration and prepare to sell my 4th Air.
On the positive side, the new air's 5G cellular support will provide more future-proof.
This iPad should finally last me a couple of years.
I also resisted getting the new (2021) mini to replace my previous generation mini as my daily driver.
I'll be going out to pick up my newly ordered M1 iPad Air from the store in a couple of minutes.
Then do the migration and prepare to sell my 4th Air.
On the positive side, the new air's 5G cellular support will provide more future-proof.
This iPad should finally last me a couple of years.
I also resisted getting the new (2021) mini to replace my previous generation mini as my daily driver.
Actually, they have been cutting out features on older devices for some time, and they never actually say anything nor make any statements, and people would've just shrugged it off.
But the different thing with this one is, Apple actually came out and made a statement about it. It's as if it's intentional. Apple marketing probably thought this would encourage people to upgrade to the M1 iPads.
They probably could make it work since those A12X/Z systems with nVME SSDs are actually desktop class system. Apple themselves were the one bragging how the A12X/Z were faster than most PCs.
Staying silent, status quo, would've probably been better rather than making vague statements without hard data to back it up.
Imo it's part of Apple knowing this year would be rough with all those lockdowns in China, shortage, inflation, etc. So they're pulling all stops to nudge people to upgrade. Gotta keep those record breaking quarters. Without solid data, the decision sounded more financially motivated than actually due to technical reasons.
To give support would also fall against their “planned obsolescence” unspoken mantra.
I got the iPad Mini 6th gen last fall thinking Apple would support the A15 in a subsequent update like iPadOS 16... Guess I played myself lol.
How does it add complexity? It's the same base platform. It's not like previous gen iPads use completely different sets of instructions. The only difference, as Apple themselves stated, is the performance, as they claimed. So the code will be the same, and Apple claimed one runs it slower than the other, thus they didn't enable it on previous gen iPads. That's it. How is that adding complexity to the codebase?
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Stager manager isn't available for any computer/device with 4GB RAM. You get the rest of iPadOS16.