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Apple Explains Why Stage Manager is Limited to M1 iPads in New Statement
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No one is asking Stage Manager to work with 6K external displays.
I mean iPad Air A14 can only output to 4K.
I mean iPad Air A14 can only output to 4K.
Wild theory: The end game of the Continuity set of features is full process migration, which is vastly more feasible by supporting M1 onward only...
So not, "throw your mouse/keyboard over to another system", or "take over the display on this other system as if it were an external monitor", but live-migrate the process itself across different machines. You can keep working on your Keynote/whatever document on a totally different system, all purely locally and with zero interruptions.
So not, "throw your mouse/keyboard over to another system", or "take over the display on this other system as if it were an external monitor", but live-migrate the process itself across different machines. You can keep working on your Keynote/whatever document on a totally different system, all purely locally and with zero interruptions.
A12z in the 2020 DTK was powerful enough to run macOS… yet the Apple is saying a12z isn’t powerful enough to run stage manager? I don’t buy any of it.
That being said, I have the m1 iPad Pro so I’m looking forward to proper external monitor support on iPadOS. Finally after all these years.
That being said, I have the m1 iPad Pro so I’m looking forward to proper external monitor support on iPadOS. Finally after all these years.
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“Stage Manager is a fully integrated experience that provides all-new windowing experience that is incredibly fast and responsive and allow users to run 8 apps simultaneously across iPad and an external display with up to 6K resolution. Delivering this experience with the immediacy users expect from iPad's touch-first experience requires large internal memory, incredibly fast storage, and flexible external display I/O, all of which are delivered by iPads with the M1 chip.”
I’ve wondered about this before. Perhaps it’s illegal to cut and paste, and the person jus typed it in, in a rush, without proof reading.
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Delivering this experience with the immediacy users expect from iPad's touch-first experience requires large internal memory, incredibly fast storage, and flexible external display I/O, all of which are delivered by iPads with the M1 chip.
Apple is talking about large internal memory and incredibly fast storage. It makes no sense why Apple is even selling a 64GB iPad Air on the market.
My thoughts exactly. But my hunch is Apple would rather cut it than leave it limited. But who knows, maybe with enough backlash Apple might do what you suggested.
The mini dev kit did have 16gb ram though.
I still think the 2020 iPad Pro could have ran this, all of them had 6gb ram. Again, maybe not on external display, but on its own display you could still take advantage of Stage Manager.
I count four times “experience” is used. And Rene is a well-known blogger… not sure why he would claim that it’s not.
We all know why Apple is selling it for 64GB is to push consumers toward the 256GB model or potentially the iPad Pro.
Yep, exact same with the whole iPhone 7 being dropped this year.
Explain how it’s clearly the lock screen and other features requiring the neural engine.
“Oh well they could easily just strip the new lock screen and everything else requiring NE out.”
Explain how ripping things out of the operating system, especially huge things like the Lock Screen, isn’t as easy as it seems and wouldn’t really be worth it to save one device.
“Oh well it’s forced obsolescence, because of course it is.”
Ask “how is it forced obsolescence if the iPhone 6S was literally the longest supported phone with a full seven years of updates, and the iPhone 7 is only one year behind that?”
“It just is OK, it’s forced obsolescence. It just is.”
Ask “well what about the fact that Apple didn’t change the support list for three OS’s in a row?”
“It’s still forced obsolescence because Apple bad my phone need to be supported forever company evil etc etc etc”
Literally no matter what Apple does people will complain.
Drop devices from the Support list and people complain.
Continue supporting old devices and people complain that they’re slow.
Introduce MacBook Airs in more muted colors and people complain that they are boring.
Introduce iMacs in fun shiny colors and people complain that they are childish.
Introduce M2 and people complain that it’s not that much different than M1.
Stick with M1 and people complain that Apples moving too slow and we should already be on M2.
Announce thin and light MacBook Pros and people complain that it should be thicker and heavier for bigger batteries and better cooling.
Introduce thicker and heavier MacBook Pro‘s and people complain that they’re tooth thick and too heavy.
And the list just goes on and on and on
2018 / 2020 iPad Pros are reaching EOL support? Who you trying to kid?
That Mac mini, if it’s the one I think you’re referring to, had the A12Z SoC and 16GB RAM.
I’m ok with it because I have an M1 iPad Pro and just bought my kids m1 iPad airs (mostly for center stage, all they do is face time!). But I really hope I’m able to get 5 years out of these iPads. We just jumped from iPad Air 3, which I think I could have gotten another year out of easily, and iPad Pro 10.5 so I think we have a fair shot.
samsung dex - 5 apps max and full size ?
apple stages - 5 stages x 5 apps =25 apps ?
** we cannot test since we dont prefer m1 as tablet and newest one ipad 6th gen mini 2021
The 2020 DTK had 16GB RAM
Apple specifically stated ram and storage speed in their statement.
The development kit had a full 16 gb of RAM.
The 2020 iPad Pro had 6.
It’s disappointing, I have an iPad Pro that is pre-M1, but I kinda get it. They release big features every year. It was probably easier to deliver one integrated experience in that timeframe rather than split experiences based on what chip you have
This statement would be more believable if Apple simply showed us how bad it would be running it on the A12X/Z (eg super choppy animation, apps crashing due to low RAM, etc). Simply demo it and say “see, this is why we require the M1.” Done. People would be more than willing to accept and even upgrade. Be transparent.
But no, Apple won’t do that, because they probably know it can be worked out if they wanted to. Put a limit on how many apps retained, and/or cut down some of the eye candy, or just have it not support external monitor in the older iPads.
It would be hilarious if somebody managed to jailbreak the older iPads and then enable the feature, and then it worked fine.
But no, Apple won’t do that, because they probably know it can be worked out if they wanted to. Put a limit on how many apps retained, and/or cut down some of the eye candy, or just have it not support external monitor in the older iPads.
It would be hilarious if somebody managed to jailbreak the older iPads and then enable the feature, and then it worked fine.
Call me sheeple, that’s fine, but I actually am upgrading to an M1 iPad Pro just for this
That would require them to develop the feature for that chipset. Why waste the dev time, a long development cycle, for one short demo?
They all have nVME desktop level storage, so if a Mac can do swap in nVME SSD just fine, I don’t see how those iPads cannot.
Heck, some Androids are now doing swap memory on even slower UFS/eMMC storage.
Might as well stop worrying about public outcry and only respond from legislation bodies. Maximise the community ignorance in terms of the feedback and embrace on other areas. It’s apple after all.