Those iPads are supported on iOS16. Do you think Apple made a special version of iOS16 for older models? It’s the same OS, they’re just selectively enabling/disabling features based on the device type. And don’t tell me Apple didn’t test iOS16 alpha/beta on those older iPads.
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Apple Explains Why Stage Manager is Limited to M1 iPads in New Statement
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this is the perfect selling point of the new and brand new upcoming ipad pro's, it's obvious
That would be a very strange presentation.
Fast storage, meaning the high-bandwidth SSD found on the M1, as opposed to the slower flash memory on the A series.
Large internal memory, meaning 8-16 GB of RAM as opposed to 4-6. Not sure if there is a speed difference between them, but it’s very likely.
RAM is not storage, Storage is not memory.
The people complaining are just salty they dropped $1000+ on an A12z that was essentially a 2 year old chip at that time let alone nowApple knew this would be a point that was going to be brought up and surely even had this statement and response ready.
Apple challenged themselves with their new M1 chip to push iPadOS to a new limit and achieved it.
Stage Manager looks great. And true external monitor support, cmon.
The 2018 iPad Pro is blistering fast and I had one for a while and I don’t feel any sympathy for people who are complaining about stage manager. It still is going to allow you to read your Facebook posts at breathtaking speeds for at least another couple years. Think about that — probably 6+ years of buttery smooth speed — is nothing to scoff at. These aren’t some somehow underprivileged people.
If you’re complaining that your FOUR YEAR OLD tech is not getting the latest features you simply need to touch some damn grass.
In those people’s mind, anything that is not current reaches end of support. Imagine apple only support iOS for one year and current device only.
"People are going to still whine, but Apple just provided a definitive technical reason. As far as I’m concerned the case is closed.
The same goes for new iOS versions on older iPhones. It’s a super laggy experience that most people wouldn’t actually want, which is why Apple periodically stops supporting older models."
I understand both sides of the argument here. I agree with Yay that the A12Z chip would easily be capable of performing Stage Manager.
However, I agree with lon X that pre A12Z chip his point would ring true. So I guess Apple drew a line in the sand although like a number of you on this forum we feel the line was drawn in the wrong spot.
The same goes for new iOS versions on older iPhones. It’s a super laggy experience that most people wouldn’t actually want, which is why Apple periodically stops supporting older models."
I understand both sides of the argument here. I agree with Yay that the A12Z chip would easily be capable of performing Stage Manager.
However, I agree with lon X that pre A12Z chip his point would ring true. So I guess Apple drew a line in the sand although like a number of you on this forum we feel the line was drawn in the wrong spot.
As a mini user, I'm OK with borking Stage Manager. But full external display support would have been awesome and would have made the mini a traveling minimum viable alternative to a Mac.
Just have it as one of developer videos on YouTube. No need for its own keynote. Developers can see it (helpful when they target their apps for certain performance), and consumers can be convinced to upgrade. Seems like a win win if Apple were actually honest on their statement.
Remember that Apple did have a full blown keynote just to show that antennagate didn’t exist.
ram is storage only for quicker access and if no electric . No information will store.
** in old time we used to call ram drive in dos .
For some developer like me prefer fast thing using ram drive as storage
just give full size monitor and 5 max application like dex . solve problem.
This is the same company that are still selling $1500 laptop with just 8GB of RAM. Not surprised about the out of touch and elitist attitudes.
bs... A 2017 base model MacBook Air on Intel can do stage manager. Just be honest, Apple.
Why would Apple spend time developing functionality they won’t be providing? They’ve already stated that the M1 iPads manage memory differently from A series iPads. How many engineers need to stop developing actual products so they can “prove” you wrong?
I’ve seen first hand what happens when you run Mac OS with less than the minimum recommended RAM. It becomes absurdly slow to boot, switch apps, etc.
Don’t feed the trolls — that comment doesn’t even make sense. Buy? Buy what? The free iOS update? A current iPad with an M1 chip? These people just comment for comment’s sake.
Right. I have the 2020 12.9-inch iPad Pro and Magic Keyboard. It helped me a lot especially all the Teams and Zoom actions. I bet if whatever redesign means I cannot re-use the Magic Keyboard. So far I only play with Stage Manager on macOS 13 beta, it's okay, but able to do full screen on an Apple Studio Display with M1 or later iPad is very nice.
Probably a combination of time to launch and revenue generation. Apple probably could do it on older devices if they wanted to, but it might take more time to optimize things while targeting the M1 is easier as it’s the same chip across the new macs and iPads. Plus, limiting things like this can nudge people to upgrade. So I’m sure in the end, the decision is financially motivated.
Nothings wrong with that, but I just prefer Apple to be transparent. If older iPads couldn’t do it well, just show it. It will only validate the statement and push more people to upgrade. If Apple were honest, being transparent would actually be more profitable.
Sure, but RAM disks aren’t something an average user will take advantage of. The only time I’ve seen one used recently outside of development is to buffer DVR writes in a custom surveillance system.ram is storage only for quicker access and if no electric . No information will store.
** in old time we used to call ram drive in dos .
For some developer like me prefer fast thing using ram drive as storage
RAM disks also don’t exist on iPads, at least in the sense of user-accessible storage.
Explain to us why Maksed Face-ID is limited to the last two gen iPhones. Explain to us why camera improvements are always limited to the last gen iPhones. Explain to us…
Given how well they work with authoritarian government I think Apple will permanently remain secret at how they do things.
The same goes for nearly every decision they make. They put a lot of thought into everything they do (or so it seems). It makes me laugh that MR people think Apple is going to cater to edge use cases. A prime example of this is sideloading. Apple doesn’t care about what a handful of internet nerds think or want.
The MR know-it-alls really don’t know Apple much at all. If they did, they known Apple caters to the masses, not specialty use cases. “Pro users” are kind of in a grey area.
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Do you have the slightest bit of factual evidence to support this theory??
Luckily regulation is going to force their hand there
Those commenting about support for a 4 year iPad/chip are missing a major point.
The iPad Mini.
It’s newer than the M1 Pro, as is the A15 newer than the M1. I understand it’s not as fast, though the A15 in the Mini does benchmark quicker than the A12X/Z (at least in Geekbench).
In other words, Apple have dropped support for their newest iPad (in terms of both newest design refresh and newest chip).
It’s ridiculous.
The iPad Mini.
It’s newer than the M1 Pro, as is the A15 newer than the M1. I understand it’s not as fast, though the A15 in the Mini does benchmark quicker than the A12X/Z (at least in Geekbench).
In other words, Apple have dropped support for their newest iPad (in terms of both newest design refresh and newest chip).
It’s ridiculous.