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Apple Expo 2003 Keynote Stream
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Stella
macrumors G3
I really thought that is how Americans pronounced Jaguar...!!! -D Canadians certinaly don't...
(If you think the above sounds weird, i'm orginally from the UK, though living in Toronto - as you can see from the left, and not heard an American say "Jaguar", that is, apart from SJ!)
(If you think the above sounds weird, i'm orginally from the UK, though living in Toronto - as you can see from the left, and not heard an American say "Jaguar", that is, apart from SJ!)
Anyone got a direct link that could be downloaded? I'm on winblowz right now and it cuts off every 2 seconds.
LucasLand
macrumors 6502a
keynote disappointing
Since watching the stream, I feel the paris expo was disappointing. Sure it's great news for powerbook fans, but there really wasn't much else to it. All this waiting and talking for really not much. It was kind of embarrassing when Steve said "I have one more thing" and all he did was introduce cordless keyboard & mouse. Big deal. It was sad when the crowd barely made a peep with the announcement, especially when it came to the price.
For $138, i'd rather have the cords. At least that way my mouse won't get lost under my papers on my desk or get accidently knocked over in my trash bin.
if they want 50% or more of their sales to be laptops, then they have to concentrate on the home users. Let's see if they can pull off a 17 inch iBook.
I use an eMac and I love the 17 inch screen. I will never go back to anything smaller, even for a laptop. If they want me to buy a laptop then they have to increase the screen size of the iBook.
Since watching the stream, I feel the paris expo was disappointing. Sure it's great news for powerbook fans, but there really wasn't much else to it. All this waiting and talking for really not much. It was kind of embarrassing when Steve said "I have one more thing" and all he did was introduce cordless keyboard & mouse. Big deal. It was sad when the crowd barely made a peep with the announcement, especially when it came to the price.
For $138, i'd rather have the cords. At least that way my mouse won't get lost under my papers on my desk or get accidently knocked over in my trash bin.
if they want 50% or more of their sales to be laptops, then they have to concentrate on the home users. Let's see if they can pull off a 17 inch iBook.
I use an eMac and I love the 17 inch screen. I will never go back to anything smaller, even for a laptop. If they want me to buy a laptop then they have to increase the screen size of the iBook.
I believe arn was being serious. He was talking about Apple Expo, not MacWorld Expo. Apple Expos always seem a bit more subdued than MacWorld Expos.
I wish they showed the full keynote but its only an Apple Expo and arn last years was cancelled so definately no hardware was released .
notjustjay
macrumors 603
Toshiba
Actually, I have heard it pronounced TO-shiba (kinda rhymes with Yoshi) -- from Toshiba themselves, in one of those self-congratulating DVD demo discs that was advertising a Toshiba widescreen TV (or DVD player, I don't remember).
I would put a high confidence in saying that's how it is properly pronounced, but everyone in North America just uses the "Americanized" version -- To-SHI-ba...
Much like we say wa-SA-bi when apparently it's supposed to be pronounced WAH-sabi.
Actually, I have heard it pronounced TO-shiba (kinda rhymes with Yoshi) -- from Toshiba themselves, in one of those self-congratulating DVD demo discs that was advertising a Toshiba widescreen TV (or DVD player, I don't remember).
I would put a high confidence in saying that's how it is properly pronounced, but everyone in North America just uses the "Americanized" version -- To-SHI-ba...
Much like we say wa-SA-bi when apparently it's supposed to be pronounced WAH-sabi.
'Toshiba' pronunciation
Steve pronounced it right. I live in Japan, and that's how they say the name 'TOshiba'.
Steve pronounced it right. I live in Japan, and that's how they say the name 'TOshiba'.
Streaming SUCK!
I hate streaming with a passion! 'cos you need a fat pipe (not the smoking type ;o) - I'd rather d/l it first and watch it at the comfort of not having to be online just to watch some low quality, super-small, jumpy QT - they might as well not post it!
Unless someone knows where I can find the downloadable version somewhere...
I hate streaming with a passion! 'cos you need a fat pipe (not the smoking type ;o) - I'd rather d/l it first and watch it at the comfort of not having to be online just to watch some low quality, super-small, jumpy QT - they might as well not post it!
Unless someone knows where I can find the downloadable version somewhere...
Re: 'Toshiba' pronunciation
So the rest of us say it wrong. 🙂
What other Japanese company names do we get wrong? 🙂
So the rest of us say it wrong. 🙂
What other Japanese company names do we get wrong? 🙂
How does Steve say "Jaguar"? Most Americans I know say "JAG-wahr" but I've heard some people say "jag-WIRE". Most Brits I've heard use the word say "JAG-u-ah".
Re: Re: 'Toshiba' pronunciation
Mazda is pronounced 'MATSUDA'
and Toyota is 'TOYOta'
There are many others.
Mazda is pronounced 'MATSUDA'
and Toyota is 'TOYOta'
There are many others.
MacsRgr8
macrumors G3
I think Steve is pronouncing the Jaguar / Jagwire word wrong on purpose.
I remember a discussion that the name "Jaguar" may not be used in commercial sense, as the car brand Jaguar uses it. This seems somekind of European thing. Im no lawyer or anything, but the reason for Steve to say "Jag-wire" is just not to run in any trouble.
well, I've always said Jag-u-arh (in Australia). But my dictionary here says it's Ja'guar or Ja'gwar.
Steve definitely sounds like he's saying Jagwire. I too thought that must be how americans say it. Is it?
We should have this worked out in time for panther to come out.
Steve definitely sounds like he's saying Jagwire. I too thought that must be how americans say it. Is it?
We should have this worked out in time for panther to come out.
I know this isn't really a linguistics thread but technically correct japanese punctuation has no stresses on individual syllables in a word.
it's not TOshiba or toSHIba. it's toshiba.
Sony of course is the wierd one. I don't think even they know how to pronounce it.
Tokyo is a good example though. In english is reads as 'Toe-key-o' whereas in japanese it's flat and monotone with two extended sylabbles. kind of like 'torr--kyorr'.
it's not TOshiba or toSHIba. it's toshiba.
Sony of course is the wierd one. I don't think even they know how to pronounce it.
Tokyo is a good example though. In english is reads as 'Toe-key-o' whereas in japanese it's flat and monotone with two extended sylabbles. kind of like 'torr--kyorr'.
No come on Jaguar is definitely pronounced "JAG-wa"... at least if you live in boston it is 😀 (we dont exactly like "r"'s unless their the first letter in a word)
Please don't think that most Americans pronounce their words like Steve does. We laugh at them here too. 😛
12" Available Now?
In the keynote, Jobs says the 12" pBook is available Today. Most news reports, however, indicated that the 12"ers would be released later this month. The Apple Store says "Available today" for the 15" and 17", but not the 12". Does anybody know the reason for the discrepancy? Is there any reliable information on when the 12s will hit the stores?
In the keynote, Jobs says the 12" pBook is available Today. Most news reports, however, indicated that the 12"ers would be released later this month. The Apple Store says "Available today" for the 15" and 17", but not the 12". Does anybody know the reason for the discrepancy? Is there any reliable information on when the 12s will hit the stores?
Arcady
macrumors 6502
The stream is just broken for me. Is anyone else having a problem with it?
Also, Steve says a lot of things in his own weird way. During the Jaguar presentation, he said the word "automatically" many times, and pronounced it odo-matically every time. Where did he get that sillyness?
Also, Steve says a lot of things in his own weird way. During the Jaguar presentation, he said the word "automatically" many times, and pronounced it odo-matically every time. Where did he get that sillyness?
We tend to over-analyze everything Steve does, but I think that he was just jet-lagged, that's all.
I say jagwire. I couldn't believe the outrage when steve said it that way. I've always laughed at the jaguar car commercial's pronunciation.
crenz
macrumors 6502a
Prices!?
Jobs pointed out that the prices are the same in euros -- and even lower for the 15" SuperDrive. However, it is simply not true! The 15" SD is $2599, Jobs announces it at 2499, and the German Apple Store sells it at 2898,84. Huh? That is four hundred euros more -- not quite a "minor mistake" or something.
And don't tell me the prices Jobs quotes are the prices for France. In the French Apple Store, they sell it for 2988,80.
Update: D'oh! He is talking about the prices without GST! 2499 + 16% GST (Germany) = 2898,84. This might be normal for you US guys, but for Germany, nobody ever mentions prices without GST (unless they're targetting resellers or companies). In fact, it is illegal to advertise product prices that don't include GST...
Jobs pointed out that the prices are the same in euros -- and even lower for the 15" SuperDrive. However, it is simply not true! The 15" SD is $2599, Jobs announces it at 2499, and the German Apple Store sells it at 2898,84. Huh? That is four hundred euros more -- not quite a "minor mistake" or something.
And don't tell me the prices Jobs quotes are the prices for France. In the French Apple Store, they sell it for 2988,80.
Update: D'oh! He is talking about the prices without GST! 2499 + 16% GST (Germany) = 2898,84. This might be normal for you US guys, but for Germany, nobody ever mentions prices without GST (unless they're targetting resellers or companies). In fact, it is illegal to advertise product prices that don't include GST...
Re: 12" Available Now?
I ordered mine the day of the release from MacMall. It's on Back Order. Who knows when I'll see it. I have next day shipping on it, so I'll be one of the first ones to know that Apple been fullfilling them to their supply chain.
Steve's a liar! The Apple store in Seattle, doesn't even have one on display yet. ;(
~oz
I ordered mine the day of the release from MacMall. It's on Back Order. Who knows when I'll see it. I have next day shipping on it, so I'll be one of the first ones to know that Apple been fullfilling them to their supply chain.
Steve's a liar! The Apple store in Seattle, doesn't even have one on display yet. ;(
~oz