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The market may be down overall, but only by what, 12-15%. So if Apple was down by similar averages you could blame just market corrections but Apple is down more than double the market so some of that certainly relates to its own individual performance and investor confidence in its stock.

It’s far from doomsday, and the bubble hasn’t burst yet but it’s certainly being squeezed and it won’t be long before investors are calling for change too.
 
bla bla 'weakening iPhone sales'
Why would that be worrying? Maybe there's just A LOT of people who DON'T buy the new iPhone every single year, and use their current phone for more than two years. What's there to worry about?
 
I think right now Apple must deal with the issue of TOO expensive iPhone models in their current lineup. The starting cost of US$749 for the 64 GB iPhone XR doesn't appeal to buyers that well; no wonder why Apple started the major trade-in promotion.

I do think by February 2019, Apple could cut the price of the iPhone XR by US$100 per phone on all models and could easily bump up sales quite a bit. I've personally played with an iPhone XR and the phone actually does work quite well with an excellent LCD display, even with the lack of 3D Touch.
 
this with the news that apple is slashing orders from suppliers...again, and that every apple fan boy youtubers pumping out why you should upgrade to the Xr, sounds like the Xr sale is doing even worse then ppl making it out to be. just my 2 cents
Yeah, those order slashing reports have generally been pretty reliable in the past, huh?

There will be a lot of salty haters when Apple reports next month.
 
The market may be down overall, but only by what, 12-15%. So if Apple was down by similar averages you could blame just market corrections but Apple is down more than double the market so some of that certainly relates to its own individual performance and investor confidence in its stock.

It’s far from doomsday, and the bubble hasn’t burst yet but it’s certainly being squeezed and it won’t be long before investors are calling for change too.
So a bit of a generalization but here goes: when apple was headed up to $1T Tim Cook was Steve ballmer and should be replaced and now that the market went down because apple didn’t go down exactly the down percentage investors will call for changes?

Okay then. I don’t think investors want to replace Tim Cook, IMO.
 
So a bit of a generalization but here goes: when apple was headed up to $1T Tim Cook was Steve ballmer and should be replaced and now that the market went down because apple didn’t go down exactly the down percentage investors will call for changes?

Okay then. I don’t think investors want to replace Tim Cook, IMO.

I don't think they do too, and right now, I don't want to see him go either. I think people here are too quick to criticize Tim Cook for every mistake Apple makes, when in reality, in any large business, it is senior executives and middle management making most of the decisions - and it's those areas where changes largely fly under the radar.

Right now, I believe one of Apple's biggest problems is that it's trying to sell consumer grade products at professional grade price points. The problem with that is, as Apple increases it's prices year on year against a global backdrop of static wages, there is an ever shrinking market of consumers who are willing to pay those prices. And with a large number of businesses still giving their cost bases alot of scrutinity, there is a shrinking number of professionals that are willing to accept consumer products based on value for money.

Apple's answer so far as been gradual increases to prices year on year, but that isn't sustainable in the current global economic climate and each year, Apple is shrinking it's potential customer base by pricing consumers out, and making it harder and harder to maintain volume and revenue. That is what needs to change.

I'm not suggesting they need to follow some other companies in a race to the bottom, far from it, but they do massively need to improve the mass markets perception of their products value for money.
 
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The market may be down overall, but only by what, 12-15%. So if Apple was down by similar averages you could blame just market corrections but Apple is down more than double the market so some of that certainly relates to its own individual performance and investor confidence in its stock.

It’s far from doomsday, and the bubble hasn’t burst yet but it’s certainly being squeezed and it won’t be long before investors are calling for change too.
Seems like AAPL is in its way up along with the Dow.
 
$75 for my nearly mint SE.
$95 for my worn/torn S6
$55 for my busted S8

I'd probably get better value selling used on swappa or other 3rd party private sales. these are fairly low return values.
 
Apple is offering CAD$315 via Brightstar for my iPhone 7 Plus 128 GB silver in mint condition.

Orchard is offering CAD$428, but the last time I sold through to them, they actually paid me more than what their app quoted once they inspected the unit.

Orchard is selling the same model in "Like New" condition for CAD$730.
[doublepost=1547679361][/doublepost]Don't waste your time. Brightstar is a complete scam - I have sent 2 perfect iPhones back to this scam company for Apple credit. Both quotes were revised to Zero dollars. One was rejected because of the "enclosure". There were fuzzy dark pictures of the phone laying on some bums underwear, sprawled across his messed up bed. The phone enclosure was absolutely pristine. The second device was also perfect but rejected because "the buttons do not match the quoted device". ***?? How do the buttons not match the serial number device? Are there options for the buttons? I don't think so.

Clearly these guys are essentially stealing devices by changing the credit to ZERO and relying on folks to give up and just leave it. They are a fraud. Do not use!

There is no way to contact a human at their bogus company, so no recourse. I will be contacting the FTC to do a full investigation of this money laundering bogus company. I suggest anyone else robbed by this scam company do the same. There is a class action suit here.

Again, Brightstar is a scam
 
[doublepost=1547679361][/doublepost]Don't waste your time. Brightstar is a complete scam - I have sent 2 perfect iPhones back to this scam company for Apple credit. Both quotes were revised to Zero dollars. One was rejected because of the "enclosure". There were fuzzy dark pictures of the phone laying on some bums underwear, sprawled across his messed up bed. The phone enclosure was absolutely pristine. The second device was also perfect but rejected because "the buttons do not match the quoted device". ***?? How do the buttons not match the serial number device? Are there options for the buttons? I don't think so.

Clearly these guys are essentially stealing devices by changing the credit to ZERO and relying on folks to give up and just leave it. They are a fraud. Do not use!

There is no way to contact a human at their bogus company, so no recourse. I will be contacting the FTC to do a full investigation of this money laundering bogus company. I suggest anyone else robbed by this scam company do the same. There is a class action suit here.

Again, Brightstar is a scam
Hmm... Try Orchard next time. They seem good, as mentioned.
 
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