Apple-Facebook Controversy Over Ping Rooted in API Usage, Feature May Return

[sinsin07]

FB is the Adobe Flash of social networking. Its everywhere and its trash.

Reminds of that non hit movie Surrogate with Bruce Willis.

 

[ranReloaded]

That would require the fanboys and girls to accept apple is doing wrong.

iTunes ping would access facebook well over the 100 mil call/day limit. Since it is getting that high it requires a special agreement. One apple is clearly not willing to play ball in. To me this just tell me it is type Apple arrogates. The fanboys and girls will blame facebook and not bother looking at the facts.

Or maybe Suckerberg wants some iTunes customers' private user data in exchange, the same kind of data Apple is denying to the likes of AdMob.

 

[pooryou]

Let's all jump on the " I hate Facebook" bandwagon because it's the new in thing.

Let's all jump on the "haters hate Facebook" bandwagon without really understanding the valid points they are making, and instead put forth a straw-man argument that critics only have a problem with it because it's the "new in thing".

 

[sinsin07]

Let's all jump on the "haters hate Facebook" bandwagon without really understanding the valid points they are making, and instead put forth a straw-man argument that critics only have a problem with it because it's the "new in thing".

Ah the straw-man rears its head LOL

 

[sinsin07]

Let's all jump on the "haters hate Facebook" bandwagon without really understanding the valid points they are making, and instead put forth a straw-man argument that critics only have a problem with it because it's the "new in thing".

I don't hate FB. I just severely dislike people who think FB needs to be in everything. These people I are your basic sheep. No FB in iTunes is a personal problem, not an Apple problem. I would prefer to see a fledgling Apple SN that branches out. For some strange reason I would prefer my data with them.

 

[bronksy]

ok this is odd.. look what I got in my welcome email

This is what my 'welcome to Ping' email said..


Dear Rick,

Welcome to Ping. As you get started, here are some tips on how to get the most out of Ping:

Finding People to Follow

Ping makes it easy to find and follow your favorite artists and friends. In iTunes on your Mac or PC, select Ping and click Featured Artists or Featured People to find new or noteworthy Ping members. If you know someone already on Ping, you can search for them by name from the Ping home page. You can even check to see which of your Facebook friends also use Ping by connecting Ping to Facebook when editing your profile.


It clearly mentions FB! (I've made it red though )

 

[Sabenth]

This is what my 'welcome to Ping' email said..


Dear Rick,

Welcome to Ping. As you get started, here are some tips on how to get the most out of Ping:

Finding People to Follow

Ping makes it easy to find and follow your favorite artists and friends. In iTunes on your Mac or PC, select Ping and click Featured Artists or Featured People to find new or noteworthy Ping members. If you know someone already on Ping, you can search for them by name from the Ping home page. You can even check to see which of your Facebook friends also use Ping by connecting Ping to Facebook when editing your profile.


It clearly mentions FB! (I've made it red though )

yep mine says it too . But frankly this is no more useful than last fm ping is no more useful than what geniuses is as an artist on iTunes apple favours fame over talent so this ping rubbish is going to be as useful as a wet toilet roll

 

[pmjoe]

There's no "controversy" - Apple violated the terms of service and developer policies.

 

[namdnalsiroj]

One ring

The Lady Gaga Ping-page seems to be pulling content straight from her tumblr page -> http://****yeahladygaga.tumblr.com/
This suggests that they're using tumblr as an interface for their musician-pages.
(It might also explain why pictures aren't working properly, if Apple is overusing tumblr's bandwidth).

Ping seems to go beyond API-integration, I suspect they're aiming to use third party social networks in their entirety, as lego-blocks for their own network; tapping directly into third party functionalities, interfaces, user base and data.

One Ping to rule them all, One Ping to find them, One Ping to bring them all and in the darkness bind them…

 

[manhattanboy]

Sounds like Steve got Zuckerpunched!

LOL

Facebook's so lame these days.

Yea, but u still check it incessantly

 

[meatballs]

Ping seems to go beyond API-integration, I suspect they're aiming to use third party social networks in their entirety, as lego-blocks for their own network; tapping directly into third party functionalities, interfaces, user base and data.

How lazy of them. I am very very disappoint

 

[Eddyisgreat]

Apple said if they can't protect their phones from jailbreaking, Facebook can't deny them access to their API's usage.

...which reminds me. I need to delete my account.

 

[Westside guy]

That is, unless some entity wants to access it a lot. In that case, Facebook requires an agreement for reasons primarily centered on protection of Facebook user data ...

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Protection of Facebook user data - you had me going there! That's a good one!!

 

[Ugg]

They got lots of signups with the promise that your data would only be seen by your friends.... then they changed the terms. That's fraud, in my book.

They won't let you delete the data either, and that counts as invasion of privacy in my book.

I can't wait for the end of facebook.

My guess is that Zuckerberg is going to be sued into oblivion. He's simply gone too far. I give him another year at the helm and then he's gone.

FB is the Adobe Flash of social networking. Its everywhere and its trash.

It is trash but unfortunately it's trash that the über social amongst us flock to willingly like lemmings. I like the idea of FB but with its total disregard for privacy, it is probably the most evil company out there today.

 

[Hawkeye411]

Ping is the new Facebook for cool people. LOL

 

[sinsin07]

snip...
It is trash but unfortunately it's trash that the über social amongst us flock to willingly like lemmings. I like the idea of FB but with its total disregard for privacy, it is probably the most evil company out there today.

Totally honest answer...much respect.

 

[Glideslope]

Wow, fail on apples part, should have come to an agreement before pushing the release.

That said, this will end up in Apple's favor, no question.

LOL. There was no fail on Apple's part. It was completely intentional, and used to pressure Facebook in negotiations. Personally I wish Apple would forget about FB anyway. Don't really see a need for Ping either, and also hate the new iTunes Logo.

 

[marksman]

If I was Steve Jobs I would sue the Facebook guy for 600 million dollars.

Ping is the new Facebook for cool people. LOL

I actually set this up the first day it was out... so I have to agree with you.

Although it will cease being cool in about 10 days.

 

[Kadman]

Right now FB has more "power from the people" than Apple will ever have. Not a position that Steve's ego is used to being in and quite frankly, not something Apple is equipped to deal with. They can either play by FB's rules or get bent, FB doesn't care. In this case Apple is just one more among millions trying to leach off of FB's popularity.

 

[techapocalypse]

it'll be back i'm sure. I kind of like this twitter for music Ping thing.

 

[aliensporebomb]

I think the buttons being vertical are dumb, but do this in Terminal and you're good to go:

defaults write com.apple.iTunes full-window -boolean YES

That didn't do anything with my copy.

 

[macrumorsMaster]

"All Things Digital now follows up with a report claiming that the disappearance is due to Apple's unauthorized usage..."

I love it. Apple goes after Psystar....but then does the exact same thing!

 

[PeterQVenkman]

Looks like Apple got the App store treatment.

Violate Terms of Service, get yanked.

hehe, so true. But Jobs will have Zuckerburg killed for this.

 

[FreeState]

The Lady Gaga Ping-page seems to be pulling content straight from her tumblr page -> http://****yeahladygaga.tumblr.com/
This suggests that they're using tumblr as an interface for their musician-pages.
(It might also explain why pictures aren't working properly, if Apple is overusing tumblr's bandwidth).

Ping seems to go beyond API-integration, I suspect they're aiming to use third party social networks in their entirety, as lego-blocks for their own network; tapping directly into third party functionalities, interfaces, user base and data.

One Ping to rule them all, One Ping to find them, One Ping to bring them all and in the darkness bind them…

So Lady GaHa posted a video welcoming her followers to Ping on tumblr? Hu?

 

[marksman]

"All Things Digital now follows up with a report claiming that the disappearance is due to Apple's unauthorized usage..."

I love it. Apple goes after Psystar....but then does the exact same thing!

Yeah it is not really the same thing at all.