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Sorry, but all I can think of in response to your post is laughter.
But I will try. You know perfectly well that Apple can easily introduce ios 16 on iPhone 7. Will it have limited functions due to older technology? Yes of course. Like the iPhone 10, it does not have everything that the iPhone 11 and 11 have everything 12, and 12 everything that is 13, etc. It's about the fact that the iPhone 6s for some reason is privileged over 7. This is a dangerous precedent because you have no warranty at Apple for the obvious fact that a younger device is supported longer. And no matter what generation of the iPhone we are talking about.
I am not arguing the "what if". I will not pretend to know the reasons or lack thereof for cutting support. And frankly, I do not care, as I do not own an iPhone 7, or ever have.

I'm simply pointing out the sad excuses for "arguments" certain individuals have for the hypothetical or actual people that purchased an iPhone 7 in 2019 crying about lack of software support for 6 year old device, regardless of when they as a consumer actually purchased the device.
 
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You can slice and dice as much as you want. However, the fact remains that the A10 can handle some of the new features.
I’ve replied, I think to you specifically, about how it’s unrealistic to expect Apple to maintain the old lock screen for the iPhone 7 if the new one doesn’t work well or at all on it. It would be one thing if it were one app or some fairly minor piece of the whole OS, but the lock screen operates at the same level as the window server, the home screen, or even loginwindow (these are the programs that draw the entire user interface, handle all user events, and manage everything about the GUI state of the OS). These are privileged GUI components that make up critical parts of the user interface.

As for other, non-lockscreen functionality, supporting them on the iPhone 7/iOS 15 would mean backporting them to iOS 15. It’s not always possible, and Apple doesn’t seem particularly inclined to spend development time on doing so. And this seems to be true for almost all OS developers, proprietary or FOSS. Very few want to add new features to old releases and deal with the support and testing issues that would cause, and very few firms and individuals seem inclined to want to support new feature releases on two different versions of their OS simultaneously.
 
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I don’t understand why some people would have « no sympathy » for those who are not happy with the software support drop. If you have a supported phone, go merry on your way, no need to bother yourself with how others with older devices feel. It’s pettiness to show « no sympathy » or even bother about others’ complaints. This drop doesn’t concern me or anyone in my household, but I do sympathise and understand those who have been affected by this.

For some reason, the “pro everything Apple does” crowd has to go dunk on everyone all over the forum at every possible opportunity


Your response is one of the most thoughtful and empathetic ones I’ve seen.
Thank you for that.
 
No one is walking into an Apple store and buying a 2-3 year old iPhone (for a hefty discount from launch price) expecting it to have the same functionality and support as "the latest".

That's like going to a car dealership and seeing the older 2021 model and the 2022 re-design next to each other on the lot. Both are being sold as "new", but no buyer expects the 2021 to get the same features and support as the 2022 model.
It's still a shame that you buy a phone in 2019 and in 2022 it's not updated anymore and already obsolete.
 
Typically I think security update patches will continue for 2-3 years after the OS is superseded. So I think anyone with an iPhone 7 is still good for 2 years minimum from a security standpoint.
I think you are thinking of macOS. iOS has never really had updates past the release of the next version, with the exception of iOS 12, which seemed to randomly receive some security updates over the next year or so. That may have been a one-off however. It would be really nice if Apple made a statement about this...
 
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I’ve replied, I think to you specifically, about how it’s unrealistic to expect Apple to maintain the old lock screen for the iPhone 7 if the new one doesn’t work well or at all on it. It would be one thing if it were one app or some fairly minor piece of the whole OS, [...]
Your own argument defeats you. You stated it would be odd for Apple to keep the old Lock Screen on the iPhone 7, but Apple is doing exactly that on the A9 iPad and other iPads without the neural processing power to support the Lock Screen.
 
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That is not something Apple customers should ever have to worry about, especially iPhone customers.

If Apple are going to behave like this, they should be exceptionally up front about lifespans of support right at the time of purchase, very prominently advertising it alongside the other key features.
IPhone software upgradable OS support is not indefinite, all consumers should recognize that. Neither should a consumer assume that when they buy an older iPhone a couple years later that the software support would be any different than if they had bought it when it was first available.

Technology obsolesce is part of everything you purchase because of part obsolesce which could be unavailability of parts to the end of manufacture SDK for programmable parts.

If Apple can at least provide security updates well past the point the iPhone looses access to the next iOS release that should be acceptable.
 
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It's still a shame that you buy a phone in 2019 and in 2022 it's not updated anymore and already obsolete.
It's not obsolete (by either the literal term, nor Apple's terminology), nor is it any less secure or have less features than the day you bought it. If you bought an iPhone 7 in 2019, you certainly paid less than the original launch price.

Would you prefer Apple just stop selling older models as "new", when a replacement device comes out? Then no one could complain they bought a new device in 2019 and it didn't get feature updates for 6/7 years.
 
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IPhone software upgradable OS support is not indefinite, all consumers should recognize that. Neither should a consumer assume that when they buy an older iPhone a couple years later that the software support would be any different than if they had bought it when it was first available.

Technology obsolesce is part of everything you purchase because of part obsolesce which could be unavailability of parts to the end of manufacture SDK for programmable parts.
Try explaining that to an average person who just saw a shiny iPhone at an entry point price at Apple Store and has no idea that the device they are being offered is actually a few years old. Apple doesn’t market their phones based on the year released (hell, they don’t do it for any of their products), they sell them as price points and go on features or the lack of as the explanation to the average consumer who doesn’t read forums like we do. Essentially a lot of people buying their products have no idea that the cheaper ones are just a couple of generations old. This is where Apple is wrong when it comes to transparency to the customers.
 
Spoken like a true Apple executive! Why? If the phone still works, and is capable, why should anyone be forced to upgrade? Not everyone needs the greatest and latest.

If the iPhone 7 still allows these users to text, review their social media, etc, then that's great.
It’ll still allow then to do that on iOS 15 as well so what’s the problem?

I’m amazed at so many people complaining about this yet it’s still far longer support you get in Android space. You’d be lucky to get a couple of years of updates there until recently.
 
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The iPhone 7 was released during the Obama administration, folks.. that was a long time ago. Not unreasonable for it to stop getting OS updates.
 
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@antonrg

Absolutely spot on

This is showing a major flaw in how Apple just slots older devices into lower price points…as opposed to designing and building new devices to fit into those price points.

It’s not full blown con operation, but it’s got a hint of lacking some ethics when we see support dumped so quickly like this.
 
I recently almost paid Apple for a screen replacement of my sons dropped iPhone 7. When I saw that iOS 15 supports iPhone 6s I deduced that we would get 18 months out of the iPhone 7. In the end we still decided against it - but it was a close decision and I’d have been really annoyed if we discovered a few weeks later that iOS 16 drops iPhone 7 support.

However that’s nothing compared to my surprise that the Apple Watch Series 3 won’t get the next watchOS update. Admittedly the real issue here is that they shouldn’t still be selling the series 3 Watch. But, given that they are, anyone who has bought a new series 3 in the last year should have expected multiple years of updates. To buy a new watch today that will never get an update stoops to the lows I would expect of Android.
 
Apple, please support my mid-2012 quad-core i7 with GeForce 650M. It's much more capable than more recent dual-core i5 machines with integrated graphics.

Nope, it's stuck on Catalina, and no tears shed.
 
Try explaining that to an average person who just saw a shiny iPhone at an entry point price at Apple Store and has no idea that the device they are being offered is actually a few years old. Apple doesn’t market their phones based on the year released (hell, they don’t do it for any of their products), they sell them as price points and go on features or the lack of as the explanation to the average consumer who doesn’t read forums like we do. Essentially a lot of people buying their products have no idea that the cheaper ones are just a couple of generations old. This is where Apple is wrong when it comes to transparency to the customers.
iPhone 7, iPhone 8, iPhone X (ten). How is this not obvious to anyone considering spending $500? I have several family members who bought iPhone 7 both at launch and even a year later. No one was confused or misled.
 
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You know perfectly well that Apple can easily introduce ios 16 on iPhone 7.
I’m sorry, but that’s not immediately obvious. Let’s look at it this way. Let’s assume it is the lock screen for now. The lock screen is a very low level process (well, at least in terms of the GUI stack) and is a key OS component. It’s not realistic to release a version of iOS 16 without it or with the old lock screen.

What if, during iOS 16 development, they’d tried it on the iPhone 7? What if it caused significant device instability, an unacceptable number of crashes back to the Apple logo, because it needed more memory than the system could allocate to the lock screen? Remember, it’s always running in some capacity, much like the home screen. You can’t just kill it because of memory constraints. What would you suggest Apple do? Hold the lock screen back a year, despite the work that had already been put into it and related APIs all because the iPhone 7 couldn’t support it? All because the iPhone 7 was a year newer than the iPhone 6s and thus one year further away from retirement in your mind than the iPhone 6s? (The iPhone 6s that, I might add, has had the longest support period of any iPhone, at least in terms of major OS update releases. The 7 getting the axe [colloquial idiom for being discontinued or ended, the axe alluding to an executioner’s axe used for beheading] this year isn’t the aberration [the departure from normal behavior or the normal order of things], the 6s retaining support for another year last year was the aberration. [Reason for the brackets is that you seem to be a non-native English speaker, and I thought you might not be familiar with the idiom “getting the axe” or with the term aberration.])
 
Apple, please support my mid-2012 quad-core i7 with GeForce 650M. It's much more capable than more recent dual-core i5 machines with integrated graphics.

Nope, it's stuck on Catalina, and no tears shed.

That wasn’t being sold new by Apple in 2019

Macs also don’t get software support as ruthlessly dumped by app developers as iOS devices do
 
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That is not something Apple customers should ever have to worry about, especially iPhone customers.

If Apple are going to behave like this, they should be exceptionally up front about lifespans of support right at the time of purchase, very prominently advertising it alongside the other key features.
Apple has been the leader in technology because it has the guts to move on from obsolete tech. Windows was hampered for years because of backwards compatibility.
 
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I think you are thinking of macOS. iOS has never really had updates past the release of the next version, with the exception of iOS 12, which seemed to randomly receive some security updates over the next year or so. That may have been a one-off however. It would be really nice if Apple made a statement about this...
Ah, that’s a good point. I remember the iOS 12 security updates and it seemed similar to the Mac, so I assumed they had the same policy. They really should have the same policy if they don’t.
 
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I think you are thinking of macOS. iOS has never really had updates past the release of the next version, with the exception of iOS 12, which seemed to randomly receive some security updates over the next year or so. That may have been a one-off however. It would be really nice if Apple made a statement about this...
iOS 13 was the last version to drop any previously supported devices, and iOS 12 received extended security support (for about two years). That’s why people are expecting iOS 15 to get continued security support. I seem to remember Apple’s logic at the time being that devices with iOS 13 could update to get new security fixes but that devices stuck on iOS 12 couldn’t, but that might just have been my view on the whole thing.
 
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