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Why would I do that, when I can buy computers from Americans who are happy to let companies abuse their rights? You ARE happy for corporations to abuse your legislated rights aren't you???
 
Why would I do that, when I can buy computers from Americans who are happy to let companies abuse their rights? You ARE happy for corporations to abuse your legislated rights aren't you???

If you had read the thread, I have been defending the lawsuit.
AT THE SAME TIME, an Australian's comments on California state labor laws is not relevant.
 
If the law was broken, it was broken. "You" can cry all you want about working longer than 4 hours without a break if you're salary - but as an hourly employee there are laws in place to make sure you're not taken advantage of.

And for the one (or many - I stopped reading) that think it's a privilege to work for Apple or whatnot - there are simply no words for you.
 
If you had read the thread, I have been defending the lawsuit.
AT THE SAME TIME, an Australian's comments on California state labor laws is not relevant.

Why are my comments not relevant? Just because the laws here are different to those in California does not mean I can't find some humour in people (who I am assuming are Californians) defending a Californian company that is allegedly breaking Californian laws.

And whether or not you are supporting the lawsuit or not, I clearly disagree with your opinion that my comments are not relevant. To that end, your support of the lawsuit or not is not relevant.
 
what are they going to get? a couple hundred bucks after taxes? doesn't seem like its worth the head ache.

That's class action lawsuit in a nutshell for you...

I have no idea if these claims are legitimate. If they are, sometimes lawsuits are about principle and not monetary gain (really more should be that way IMO). Bad press also has the ability to damage Apple more than whatever this settlement or layout might be.
 
I call Bull, these people are losers and crybabies

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Apple is facing a class action lawsuit in California over a number of alleged Labor Code violations, with the company being accused of not providing timely meal breaks, timely rest breaks, and timely final paychecks, reports TechCrunch.Originally filed in December of 2011 by four former Apple retail and corporate employees in San Diego, the lawsuit was certified as class action yesterday and could affect up to 20,000 current and former Apple employees in the state of California

According to the filing, which demands a jury trial, employee complaints cover a wide range of possible labor code violations. One complaint, for example, cites employees having to work for five hours straight without a meal break, while another complaint suggests that Apple took several weeks to send out a final check to multiple employees.

The lawsuit asks for compensatory damages and restitution of all monies due to affected employees from unlawful business practices, along with interest, but it does not specify a damages amount.

Along with this new class action lawsuit, Apple is embroiled in a class action lawsuit with Apple retail employees who allege that Apple's bag checking policies have resulted in lost wages, a suit that also accuses Apple of violating state labor laws.


Article Link: Apple Facing Class Action Lawsuit From 20,000 Employees Over Alleged Labor Code Violations

I worked for Apple for 4 years. One thing I can tell you is that, if you missed your 15 minute break every 2 hours, and didn't clock out for your 1 hour lunch at between 3.5-4.5 hours in your 8hr shift, they were on you like green flies, and. If you were working with a customer and your break time was due, you were supposed to "hand" the customer off (which I never did,) I believe you start with a customer, you finish with a customer. Bottom line, was NEVER denied a break, didn't take all of them, but never denied.

I timed my departure with the company so that I left on a Friday (end of the pay period) I got my check the following Thursday direct deposited in the bank. I guess maybe, they would mail it to you the following Friday, which meant you may not get it until the following week, so maybe 10 days? Well, you're a moron if you didn't use direct deposit. So FU! Ya probably weren't smart enough to wear the shirt anyway!

I have been in retail sales off on and on for most of my life. 4 years in management and 15 owning my own company with 15 employees. I would highly recommend Apple if you want to work retail. Oh, they have an excellent bene package. Full Health Care, Top Shelf plan, for part timers $62 per month! Salary is competitive with guess what RETAIL!

If you want to make more, become more. You are paid for the amount of problems you solve. That's life.

Tim, if ya need me to testify, call. Oh, I can help you with the iPhone, phone interface too. We need to talk about that.
 
5 hours without a meal break :eek: that would be 7am-noon?! :rolleyes:

Lol my thoughts too. I am leaving the house at 5 or so, start to work at 7 and got lunch at 12:30, sometimes not before 1. Better sue those feckers :p

Besides that, even Apple has to obey employment laws, no matter what some people here suggest :D
 
Amazing that some people are so blinded by their undying loyalty to Apple that they'll put Apple above the law while making condescending remarks about their retail workers!

Oh and when comparing Apple's workers to workers in China and claiming these labor laws don't really matter because at least we have it better than China, understand these labor laws are part of why we have it better in the first place!
 
Apple should follow the law. If they don't, then they should be sued.

I don't feel bad for these employees at all though.
 
Some of the comments on here shows half of you will follow Apple blindly. The codes there not to be broken, Apple are not perfect.
 
What is hard to believe is that Apple is a big company and uses a computerized payroll system. Their system looks at the time card data and calculates pay.

WHY was the payroll computer not programmed to see there was no break and pay the extra hour as required. This is an oversight by whoever runs Apple's payroll

Did some internal developer simply make a mistake? The computer should have detected that some on worked through their break can paid them the extra hour.
 
I think you have to work at-least 6 hours to get a 15min break. 8 hours+ you get two 15 min breaks and an hour lunch/dinner, but you have to work an extra hour unpaid.
 
oh ya,,, we all gotta have timely breaks always..

we're not robots, however allot of companies that push us to the limit, reckon we are...

Apple probably is one of them..... They only care about hard workers, even it it "mentally, or psychically" kills them Foxconn was a good example of those reported suicides..


Take a break Apple, have a kit kat...

Just because Tim Cook can probably think like a machine doesn't mean everyone has to be as fast as one.

That's what robot workers are for. We'll see this next....

"20,000 lay off in place of robot workers at Apple"
 
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Seriously as a doctor, 5 hours is playtime. I do get pretty cranky after 18 though...

You must be joking, as if you don't rest, sit or eat between that time.
5 hours in a relaxing job that you can chat, sit, and eat some snack is completely different of a job that you can't!

Also that's an awful practice for a physician to say 5 hours without eating and resting to be good!
 
Lost wages? You mean like how my Apple store manager sister have caught and fired employees stealing stuff in their bags?
Nope...lost wages because those bag checks are mandatory and take approximately 15 minutes...time which should be paid for by apple.
 
I work for one of The Big Four and can make the same allegations (including many more) against my employer.

If you choose to work for an above-average pay grade, you also choose for increased stress levels and a ****ed up work/live balance. If you don't like that, find another employer.
 
These claims sound ridiculous. I don't sympathize with Apple employees at all. I have worked at Target for a couple of years and let me tell you I prefer to have not taken my meal break if they just leave me alone and not yell at me for making sure my department was properly zoned at the end of the night. 5 hrs and no break? Sorry Apple sweeties but just about every restaurant I've worked at has forced their servers, bus boys, and cooks to work without a break until the very end of their shift. That's life. You should be privileged to be standing behind a desk and looked up to for advice by customers and only have to deal with one at a time. Try working for Target where during the holidays you have to pick up the phone, try to cash out customers, and not have their kids opening boxes or steal. Ugh, Apple employees and their first world probs.

You cannot equate 'it happens everywhere' with 'thus it is right'. Neither Target or Apple, nor all those other people should have to be forced to go without lunch breaks. That it is omnipresent makes it even more worrisome, not acceptable. Undeniably, once in those jobs, you need to make 'the best out of it'. But that's a whole other story.
 
Or at least fairly... but you would be wrong. Abusing employees is the rule. Money - and only money - is the name of the game. Apple is no exception. Although it usually does a a good job masquerading it.

Big corperations scrape and save every penny they can to make a million more from the bottom people, then they reward the CEO with a bonus of a few hundred million...
 
Wow I am shaking my head at some of the despicable responses from some people on here.

The comments are troubling, disappointing, and maybe shortsighted; what has been happening over the past several days with the bodies and crash site evidence in the Ukraine is despicable. Let's keep our perspective.
 
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