Agree, which is what makes the iPhone retail prices so unjustified. They don't have significant advantage in hardware or software to justify the premium. But people see that apple logo and throw money at them so there's no motivation for them to change. But that's another discussion.
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iPhone XS Max APPLE FALLING BEHIND IN HARDWARE
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Agree, which is what makes the iPhone retail prices so unjustified. They don't have significant advantage in hardware or software to justify the premium. But people see that apple logo and throw money at them so there's no motivation for them to change. But that's another discussion.
Resale value remains so high on iPhones and so bad on android and for some that matters
your argument basically boils down to - if you don't use your phone and keep it as a paperweight, the iphone lasts a long time. if you actually use the phone, it doesn't last as long as its competitors. that's not a good thing.
btw this guys does exactly what you want. phone calls, texting, browsing, music etc and even lists the standby time of both phones, the iphone still lost. it's also not really fair to put the iphone up against a brand new galaxy note 10. so underneath that, it still lost to the note 9 lol.
Apple have a massive software advantage with iOS.
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I'm not sure why having my phone in my pocket there for when I need to use it counts as keeping it as a paperweight.
But not lasting as long as competitors is definitely a bad thing. The good thing though is that I get iOS. So I guess it balances out. Better to have shorter battery life and iOS than having to live with android.
Let's not even start on sell back value....Hence why I keep going with the iPhone.
Ah yes, the obligatory battery debate between which phone has the best battery life. I mean, considering others have already debunked that by stating the Max has superseded the S10 by their own usage
. It’s called a matter of usage, settings and LTE coverage that really affect battery life. ‘Battery tests’ are highly subjective, not definitive.
Ah yes, the obligatory battery debate between which phone has the best battery life. I mean, considering others have already debunked that by stating the Max has superseded the S10 by their own usage
The few people that I know which switched the S10+ with the Max say the same thing that the Max really stood out for them.
Why do you think that is? Is it because Apple have a higher quality product? No. It's because Apple refuses to drop prices even when the phones are almost a year old and refuse to let other retailers drop their prices either. By doing that, they allow people to sell their devices second hand for a premium as well. It doesn't mean there's anything special about their phone, it just means that they're not offering their customers any deals.
I'd love to hear about this massive software advantage Apple provides over Android. What is it exactly? I think there's some things Apple clearly does better than Android but also a lot of areas where Android is far superior to iOS. To me it's pretty much a wash and just comes down to preference.
Apple can maintain higher prices because they make a better product. Other manufacturers have to lower prices to keep selling their products. That how supply and demand work.
Not being connected to google is one of those reasons. Android tries to hard to be a legacy computer in your pocket and it always seems to take years to get features (gestures, secure Face ID ).
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You are blowing my mind right now. First off, the first paragraph is pure nonsense.
The second paragraph is just wrong. Android takes forever to get features? What? It takes Apple forever to integrate features. Proper multitasking? Bundled notifications? Widgets? Multiwindow? Rumored to have an indisplay fingerprint scanner by 2020...maybe? I could go on and on.
I like both OSes but this is just nonsense.
I'm honestly amazed at the people here defending the battery capacity of the XS MAX. Apple should be put under pressure for putting such small batteries in their phones, and as a result, selling a phone with a considerably inferior battery life than its competition.
Modern Android phones absolutely kill it.
Modern Android phones absolutely kill it.
And more **********ing ram so it doesn’t close whatever app I’m using if I take a portrait picture.
Glad to have blown your mind with such simple concepts. I can teach you more things.
I watched the Note10 one and I was pretty impressed by how close this actually was considering how much larger the Note10+ battery is (about 1100mAh more), without a doubt the Note10 won this hands down, but it seems the variance is not that large, at least not in my eyes.
I’m a big supporter of bigger batteries and faster charging, love it in my P30 Pro which is probably still amongst the best Androids in battery life and yet in day to day usage I go to bed with my iPhone XS Max at about 20-25% battery despite me having the Display brightness at +70% with Auto Brightness turned off, having it synced to my Apple Watch, using WhatsApp throughout the day, 3 email accounts syncing, using Social Media (Instagram, Twitter, Facebook and LinkedIn mainly), playing Music while gyming and on the way home etc...
Two things I do wish my XS Max had is a USB-C port and 40W Charging.
Will be interesting if they repeat this test once the final iOS 13 build is released, I’d be curious to see if Apple closes the gap a little.
Even if they are, iOS is so efficient it gives the hardware an extra kick.
I always find it funny when someone tries to cover their own ignorance on a subject by being overly confident and boastful.
I'm glad you find yourself so amusing, but this has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
You can’t tell people hire to spend their money. Everyone’s value system is different. In my own opinion, iPhones are worth every penny (as well as the wearables).
I'm not telling anyone how to spend their money. I'm saying for the hardware/software package iPhones offer, they're not objectively better in enough ways to justify their higher price tag.
You claimed that Android phones take forever to get features. That's flat out an incorrect statement. You could say that Apple comes out with features layer but they're more refined. I wouldn't argue against that. But to say iPhone gets them first is just wrong.
There is no objectively better, because that’s a rabbit hole. There’s only subjectively better and IMO the iPhone is subjectively better enough to justify the price, for me, and for others who buy Apple hardware.
Great point. I think a lot of the others seem to forget that iOS _and_ the hardware work together is tandem to provide such a stark performance that is sustainable throughout the lifespan of the iPhone. It’s a huge effort between the iOS team and hardware that make such an impact on sustainability.
It all boils down to this really....
A walled garden of extremely tight software/hardware integration and services.
But, you have are required to play within the limits of the walls.