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You are just listing specs and most aren’t that impressive

Bigger battery bit battery life I bet is the same as the max never mind the new iPhones which will get a bigger battery

The camera on the max is very close to the note 10 but next week the new iPhone camera will again be better than the note 10 plus

12GB of ram? Nice but Apple can cope with 4GB...why? Because the software can handle it better

FP scanner? Still from the sounds isn’t that great and still can’t compare with Face ID in all areas

iPhone will finally have 18W charging which is enough. Wireless charging is all that’s needed for most as your phone should be lasting most of the day anyway

So really what you listed isn’t really impressive

iPhones run a far better OS so as good as the note is the software will always let it down
Have you ever seen a battery life test between iPhones Vs the competition? The iPhones get slaughtered. They die when others still have 40%
 
Have you ever seen a battery life test between iPhones Vs the competition? The iPhones get slaughtered. They die when others still have 40%
Don't know the xs max and xs, but the XR is quite decent. 8 hors+ correct?
But I do remember the iPhone 6 and 6s... What a fiasco. Always stayed with it plugged in. In the car, home, everywhere.
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I don’t agree. With the exception of charging speed, which the trade-off is battery life, Samsung does beat Apple. Storage speed and display quality there is no clear winner.

Interesting. Everything Ive read the general consensus is UFS 3.0 is faster than the NVMe than the iPhone uses. Are you sure about this one?

And what do you mean charging speed tradeoff is battery life? Samsungs last two devices crushed their iPhone equivalent in terms of battery life. Do you mean battery health long term?

As far as display quality goes, I dont think this one can be argued really. Pretty much every review of the Note 10 plus mentions it as being the best screen and dethroning the previous champ, the S10 Plus. The Note 10 Plus has better resolution, HDR10+, higher pixel density, and better scratch resistence. I get that at a certain point the eye can only discern so much difference but that doesnt change that it is better.

However, I will say I'm comparing the latest flagship with an almost year old flagship from Apple, so maybe the new iPhones will change this. I hope so. Everyone gets caught up in the iOS vs Android debate but in reality these companies pushing each other only means better products for us.
 
Guys, chill out!
IPhones are not falling behind anything!
They somehow got resurrected via some weird software update of geekbench 5.
Imagine that now even the iPhone 7 is faster than 32 core Amd Threadripper!
Nothing to worry! Apple no 1!
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Have you ever seen a battery life test between iPhones Vs the competition? The iPhones get slaughtered. They die when others still have 40%

What? The max is one of the best phones for battery life. Don’t think any android phone is as good for battery life
 
Interesting. Everything Ive read the general consensus is UFS 3.0 is faster than the NVMe than the iPhone uses. Are you sure about this one?
Not sure.
https://www.micron.com/-/media/clie...vel_performance_in_embedded_systems.pdf?la=en

And what do you mean charging speed tradeoff is battery life? Samsungs last two devices crushed their iPhone equivalent in terms of battery life. Do you mean battery health long term?
Correct, battery long term health.

As far as display quality goes, I dont think this one can be argued really. Pretty much every review of the Note 10 plus mentions it as being the best screen and dethroning the previous champ, the S10 Plus. The Note 10 Plus has better resolution, HDR10+, higher pixel density, and better scratch resistence. I get that at a certain point the eye can only discern so much difference but that doesnt change that it is better
What you’re really saying is Samsung released a phone 9 months after apples latest release. So we’ll see in one weeks.

However, I will say I'm comparing the latest flagship with an almost year old flagship from Apple, so maybe the new iPhones will change this. I hope so. Everyone gets caught up in the iOS vs Android debate but in reality these companies pushing each other only means better products for us.
Exactly two phone released in different periods are being compared.
 
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What? The max is one of the best phones for battery life. Don’t think any android phone is as good for battery life

you're joking right? the iphone max is one of the worse flagships when it comes to battery and it's not really even close.....


 
you're joking right? the iphone max is one of the worse flagships when it comes to battery and it's not really even close.....



Funny as my S10 plus was trash compared to my max battery life

Those tests aren’t real world usage...
 
What? The max is one of the best phones for battery life. Don’t think any android phone is as good for battery life

Yeah, the Max has exceeded my expectations. In terms of those complaining about the battery life, there’s so many subjecting factors with LTE coverage/settings and even/or which modem they have specifically in their iPhone. Not to mention, the A-Series processor are very much involved in stabilizing the battery life.
 
Funny as my S10 plus was trash compared to my max battery life

Those tests aren’t real world usage...

social media, music, youtube,gaming and using the camera isn't real world usage? what the heck do you consider real world usage then?
 
you're joking right? the iphone max is one of the worse flagships when it comes to battery and it's not really even close.....


lol

Both guys made the same mistake: full brightness =/= same brightness

The iphone will always lose in this kind of "test" because the manual maximum brightness is around 650 nits, meanwhile the mate are a little above 500 and the note and 1+ way lower, between 350 and 400 nits. There is a reason why other sites always calibrate the screen at 200 nits with special machines and why youtube has become a ******** when looking for something accurate.
 
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Both guys made the same mistake: full brightness =/= same brightness

The iphone will always lose in this kind of "test" because the manual maximum brightness is around 650 nits, meanwhile the mate are a little above 500 and the note and 1+ way lower, between 350 and 400 nits. There is a reason why other sites always calibrate the screen at 200 nits with special machines and why youtube has become a ******** when looking for something accurate.

Lol if you actually watched the video, the very first thing he mentions is he used a tool to set all the phones to an equivalent brightness level. Any other excuses?

Btw at max brightness the note 10 is significantly brighter than the max. It maxes out at 686 nits. Any other excuses?

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Lol if you actually watched the video, the very first thing he mentions is he used a tool to set all the phones to an equivalent brightness level. Any other excuses?

Btw at max brightness the note 10 is significantly brighter than the max. It maxes out at 686 nits. Any other excuses?

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HE SAID that, but if you look at the video you will notice not only the huge difference in white but that when he brings down control center, the manual brightness on the iphone its at maximum.

The note 10 can go higher but not manually, thats the point, he cant set nor calibrate that screen at 650nits on auto, no one can.
The maximum brightness that the manual slider can give is not higher than 400 nits.

Its a flawed test, not an excuse.
 
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HE SAID that, but if you look at the video you will notice not only the huge difference in white but that when he brings down control center, the manual brightness on the iphone its at maximum.

The note 10 can go higher but not manually, thats the point, he cant set nor calibrate that screen at 650nits on auto, no one can.
The maximum brightness that the manual slider can give is not higher than 400 nits.

Its a flawed test, not an excuse.

so he uses a colorimeter to set each phone to the same nits but its a flawed test? lol. i mean its ok to admit the iphone battery is crap compared to other flag ships while costing the most out of any flagship phone....

do you have ANY proof, article or video, that shows the iphone even coming close to beating any of those phones in battery life? i'm sure since these tests are all "flawed", you have the perfect test to show me

hell it can't even beat the older versions of android phones that these companies put out.....

 
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Roughly the same results..



That said, all phones tested have good battery life, I wouldn't call any of the results bad by any margin.
 

Roughly the same results..

The only tests where I've seen the iphone do better is Tomsguide and Phonearena, but they don't have videos, they use graphs and anecdotal evidence.

Good old anecdotal evidence.......

That said, all phones tested have good battery life, I wouldn't call any of the result crap by any margin.

lasting a full hour longer is roughly the same battery life? lol ok we can agree to disagree

either way im sure the new iphone will be just as good as any other phone. that's all apple wants to do. even though they could fit a bigger battery and blow away everyone. they put just enough in there and then charge a premium for it.
 
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lasting a full hour longer is roughly the same battery life? lol ok we can agree to disagree

either way im sure the new iphone will be just as good as any other phone. that's all apple wants to do. even though they could fit a bigger battery and blow away everyone. they put just enough in there and then charge a premium for it.


Sorry, I should have been clearer, I meant the same conclusions as the other videos...
 
I don’t agree. With the exception of charging speed, which the trade-off is battery life, Samsung does beat Apple. Storage speed and display quality there is no clear winner.

I don’t know about the trade-off on the Charging, my P30 Pro comes with a 40W Charger that charges it in seriously rapid time but I have not seen any depletion in battery life.

Huawei were smart in that they gave the phone a huge battery, so after Supercharging it it lasts very long and therefore reduces the charge cycles you go through. Some days I can go to bed without charging it and only charge it the following day at lunch from about 30%.

I think the lesson is that if OEMs provide fast charging they also need to ensure the battery is large enough to reduce charge cycles.
 
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Despite Apple falling behind in hardware, I do have to say there is a lot of comfort in knowing that my XS Max will probably see updates for the next 5 years, while most Androids are lucky to get updates for half that time.

I look at all the fantastic hardware in Android and think to myself it’s a little wasted considering they won’t get support long enough.

The Samsung Galaxy Note 4 for example has such great hardware that theoretically it should still be getting updates, but it has long been forgotten, while the iPhone 6 range that came out that same year are in the very latest iOS 12.4.1.
 
What? The max is one of the best phones for battery life. Don’t think any android phone is as good for battery life
The Max gets beaten by the s10+ in all battery life tests let alone the Note 10. The xr is the only iPhone with comparable battery life to any of the top android phones. Don't get me wrong if Apple put a 4300mah battery in an iPhone it would have incredible battery life, no arguments there.

Truth is all phones are so similar and mature in 2019, the Android VS Apple argument is less relevant then ever. All phones get all day battery life, all phones have fantastic cameras, all phones have great build quality and great screens. The biggest difference is software and that is really down to preference.
 
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social media, music, youtube,gaming and using the camera isn't real world usage? what the heck do you consider real world usage then?

Doing all of those things constantly with the screen on all of the time is not real world usage. Your devices screen will be off a lot more than it is on. A real world test would consider a bit of screen on usage (web browsing, texting), a bit of screen off usage (phone calls and listening to music on bluetooth headphones), and screen off no usage (idle).
 
The Max gets beaten by the s10+ in all battery life tests let alone the Note 10. The xr is the only iPhone with comparable battery life to any of the top android phones. Don't get me wrong if Apple put a 4300mah battery in an iPhone it would have incredible battery life, no arguments there.

Truth is all phones are so similar and mature in 2019, the Android VS Apple argument is less relevant then ever. All phones get all day battery life, all phones have fantastic cameras, all phones have great build quality and great screens. The biggest difference is software and that is really down to preference.

As I said that wasn’t my usage

It drained badly and I was charging by 9pm. On my max it didn’t needing charging til bedtime.
 
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