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Apple Fights UK's Demand for iCloud Data Backdoor
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If we all had the ability to see ourselves as our friends see us, the world would be a better place.
So what is the problem then? It sounds like you understand that the interests of all countries matter and just as important as the interests of any one given country.
Why the British government feel that they have the exclusive right to access iCloud data worldwide?
The real friends are very hard to find, some might say that there are no friends in global politics.
They can already access the unencrypted server backups of iCloud with a court order. Not with the fully encrypted iCloud. Apple’s refusal to allow that is the whole basis of this controversy.
...what? I absolutely do NOT want encryption taken away. Which is why you don't let your government tell a private company what kind of charger they have to use. Once they get away with something as stupid as that, they'll come after everything else.
Governments tell private companies what to do all the time. Obvious examples: building codes; zoning laws.
They do when it is the interest of the public good: mostly safety and security. Telling a company what charging port to use because people are sick of using multiple cables isn't even in the same realm of existence.
They are both ridiculous overreaches of power by the government, that absolutely no one asked for. So yes, they are exactly the same thing. If you don't understand how one leads to another then you don't understand your history very well.
Got any data to back that up in terms of what the EU is doing? I for one had been asking for type C on the iPhone for a long time and would love to be able to sideload as well (in the UK)
Your opinions don’t make up the whole planet buddy
Your opinion on things you would "like to do" have nothing to do with what the government is for.
Sure but Apple will never change otherwise. A monopoly is a monopoly and it is kinda the governments responsibility to mitigate this
Agree but will add it is ours also. Without sales companies do not become so powerful. Apple is not a monopoly as there are multiple manufacturers of smartphones.
Apple was clearly moving to USB-C anyway, Apple isn't a monopoly, and it is absolutely not the government's responsibility to mitigate anything.
By mandating it into law, all the EU did was ensure there will never be another plug connector, and maybe got Apple to move to USB-C a year or two earlier than they would have otherwise.
Bad examples. That’s public safety and common use development. There’s also speeding laws, but so what.
It seems my examples are “bad” because you agree with those uses of government power. Another example is the three-hole electrical outlet with just the arrangement of holes and their uses. In a “free market” you ought to be able to choose your outlet style. But you can’t…not unlike the EU requirement for USB C connectors.
How do you know this? Apple first moved to usb c back in 2015 with the 12 inch MacBook. Why would they wait almost 10 years to add it to their most popular product?
This argument never holds any weight because there’s zero evidence to back it up other than a few coincidences. Apple has been riding the lightning gravy train for a long time and this is the real reason they waited so long
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I think you miss the point. You can’t sideload or sell apps outside the AppStore on an iPhone, one of only two major smartphone OS’s. It essentially makes it a monopoly because Apple literally blocks any and all potential competition
Yes. I agree with the use of government for the common good. Unless a for profit company with competition who produces consumer discretionary products breaks laws or produces unsafe products stay the government should stay out of it.
The NEC is a good example of useful government intervention. It’s a set of regs that affect everyone’s safety.
A usb port imo does not meet the litmus test of being regulated.
“Essentially” per your definition of monopoly. I still have to disagree. I’ll stick with the actual definition.
They helped design USB-C. were among the first companies to embrace USB-C on their laptops, I believe the first company to release a laptop with only USB-C ports, and had already started transitioning the entire iPad line from lightening to USB-C. The iPhone is their most important product line, and it makes sense to be more conservative with it. Especially if you remember the one previous time they switched their connector they got RAKED over the coals for switching there connector, even though the new connector was demonstrably better than the old one. Whereas USB-C is at best the same as lightening (I'd argue it's actually worse at being a connector, although I agree preferable to lightening due to the ubiquity of USB-C) . “What a money grab, Apple just wants us to buy new cables”. When introducing lightening they said "it was the connector for the next decade". Guess how long lightening was the connector for? 10 years.
I think it is much more likely that Apple was being conservative in switching over their most important product to a new charging cable, especially considering the reaction they switched from a clearly worse cable to a better one, than they were holding on to lightening for licensing money or whatever. Anecdote: my mother-in-law resisted updating her phone for two years because she didn't want to buy new cables everywhere.
Case in point, the MiFi program made them "pocket change" per reporting (and if all they cared about licensing money, why do iPhones support Qi charging?). If you think Apple made their product worse for "pocket change", we're looking at two different companies. (And I strongly suspect they made more money in people buying overpriced USB-C cables from Apple than they lost in licensing fees).
And none of that changes the fact that the government regulating which charging port devices use is incredibly stupid that completely stifles innovation. We've already seen a phone that says "it's as thin as we can make it due to the charging port."
And hence my comments.
Government can do anything it wants and we just have to grin and bear it. And that’s perfectly reasonable also. To wit, POTUS.
So if people are against some policies it’s reasonable for me to say the government disagrees and that is a reasonable comment.