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Apple Fights UK's Demand for iCloud Data Backdoor
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pankajdoharey
macrumors 6502a
FlyingDutch
macrumors 68020
The problem is not him, but the people that voted for him… that says a lot about US nowadays.
By the way, to stick with the topic, good move from Apple. Just remove cloud services in UK: maybe their citizens will complain enough.
FlyingDutch
macrumors 68020
GaryMumford
macrumors 6502
It’s not the people of the UK who need to wake up, it’s the UK government who need to wake up. The people in the UK don’t want this.
I agree and those voters shouldn’t complain or look in the mirror if they complain about this new administration.
If they regret what they voted for, then Trump should be the target for criticism , not Musk.
RalfTheDog
macrumors 68020
This won't last. The UK wants to rejoin the EU. If they do, they will be forced to comply with the EUs very strong privacy laws.
Uk gov has nothing to do with what the EU is doing…
To be fair, of the three branches, the executive is the only one with a single "boss" at the top. He can and has issued unilateral orders to the executive branch, by far the largest branch.
Of course, basically every one of those orders has generated at least one lawsuit.
By the way I think that arrangement is kind of ridiculous no matter who is president. Executive orders should have been limited by Congress decades ago.
Lol, I know a government that’s run by thugs and grifters and that’s not in the UK.
darkpaw
macrumors 6502a
We can't know, due to the actual law they've filed the lawsuit against, whether they did this before or after removing ADP. I can't read what the FT reported (behind a paywall), but they may be reporting that the lawsuit appeared on the press radars today.
darkpaw
macrumors 6502a
We are standing up and making a noise about it, but thanks for your off-hand, unwarranted insult.
I've already written to my MP, the Prime Minister, and the Home Secretary. And, while you might think, "Oh, letters! Hope that works out for you but it needs more forceful action," letters are just the start. We in the UK don't go from being angry about something directly to purchasing weapons.
I can assure everybody here that you are in the minority, the comment is absolutely not off hand.
When I see a 1990 poll tax like response, I'll take my comment back. Gladly.
Oh, and I know what you in the Uk do, don't get it twisted.
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Apple Fan 2008
macrumors 68000
Apple Fan 2008
macrumors 68000
The problem is that Congress is lazy and has just delegated more authority to the position of President over time.
Fortunately, separation of powers is still a thing and courts strike down laws even if the law or order comes from the President who appointed them.
IMO, Congress would be more functional if we made the position of Speaker of the House non-partisan and just gave most of the powers of Speaker to the House Majority Leader. Make a "Prime Minister of the United States" if you will.
avz
Suspended
Is it?
Perhaps starting a legal process to fight UK's demand for icloud data backdoor is a way of "slowing down the time" so the other things and events have a chance to catch up and put Apple in a much better position to win.
justperry
macrumors G5
Well…, is that so.
On this side of the pond maybe, but on their own side not so much, or For instance China.
Tim gave into renaming the gulf, gave 1 million to Orange boy, Is not really consumer friendly in the states and so on.
jz0309
macrumors P6
Well, really?
Apple has to follow the local laws, regardless of country.
Apple receives geographic names from a source in the US (it was mentioned in the article that first brought this up), as does Google and that source changed the name, there was no “Tim givingin…”.
Cook used personal funds for that donation, said it before and say it again, that’s a smart move.
And I don’t know what “is not consumer friendly in the states (US) means, please elaborate. Personally, I have no complaints and have been treated well by Apple when needed.
False. They have everything to do with it. They see that EU has gotten away with, and is taking it to the next level.
Tagbert
macrumors 604
I'm sure that Trump will balance the budget and not issue any unfunded tax reductions for corporations or wealthy people. 🤔
justperry
macrumors G5
Paying for warranty is not consumer friendly.
Paying a president or any politician in most of the world is called corruption, nepotism, cronyism.
There’s no legal law that says to rename the bay, at least, that’s what I think is the case, they, Google-Apple/others just suck it up while they shouldn’t.
jz0309
macrumors P6
"Paying for warranty is not consumer friendly." - what are you talking bout? Apple provides the warranty required by law, just as any other electronics or consumer goods company does. It happens that eg in the EU that warranty period is longer than in the US, again, local law. And AC+ is essentially an insurance, and there are plenty 3rd part insurance companies that offer the same service for other electronics or furniture and such, Apple offers this as a service and it is up to your own choosing if you want to pay for that or not.
As far as the renaming goes, there is precedence that former POTUS has done the same, and Apple and Google complied in the past. While I personally think this renaming was/is silly, it is lawful and again, Apple and Google and everyone else retrieves the names from a central db.
nnoble
macrumors 6502a
I admire you trying, but it is nigh on impossible to educate the wilfully ignorant, particularly when their current leadership has no working relationship with knowledge, history or truth.