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Apple Filed for 'Apple Rosetta' Trademark in Japan Earlier This Year
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My fist Mac was a Power PC G5-DP. A monster in 2004. Used it for more than 10 years. Not because the HW was obsolete (it did beat my 2010 Intel MacMini, and my Dell 2014 Dell notebook), because ending SW support made applications stop.
The "killer switch" was my 2014 tax return. The tax authorities app 'complained' my web browser was out of date. The browser could not be updated because of the OS, the OS did not get an update because support ended.
As a stand alone machine my G5-DP worked for 12 years.
A lot of Windows apps run in virtualisation on ARM and some don't, it's a very mixed bag of hurt. Same for Apple when they decide to dump Intel virtualisation over time.
Reminds me when first original Intel Mac Pro came out, Photoshop a way slower running on that machine compared with native PPC on G5 Quad. I wonder this transition would introduce some performance penalty like that.
Apps that don't get recompiled for ARM and rely on a Rosetta-like solution to run will take a huge performance hit. Unless Apple can do magic, there is no way around that really. If they truly want to switch to ARM and don't want people to hate the experience, they will have to push developers to recompile their apps.
Genuine question, have you ever used Winwodws 10 for ARM?
Since the current iPad's are actually faster than 13" MacBook Pro's, I'd guess that a Apple designed computer CPU with a fan in mind will easily beat the current intel offerings. Otherwise, why do it anyway?
Except for cutting edge CAD such as Autodesk and SolidWorks, those CAD solution not available on MacOS…Apple is also blurred line between consumer GPU as workstation one which CAD relying for most of operation (even some of them same chip actually), but Apple in house driver doesn’t offer peace of mind certified driver for workstation GPU (Looking at you Catalina Navi driver debacle)
Even photos of some leaks of iPhone CAD drawings, are done using Windows.
It would be interesting to see, if they repeat the script when they made the switch from PowerPC to Intel chips, when they made the whole presentation on Mac and towards the end Steve showed that the whole presentation already ran on Intel chip.
When was the last time switching to proprietary hardware actually LOWERED the price of an Apple product?
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I’d like to take you seriously but you can’t even properly capitalize ARM. That weakens your credibility, frankly, as it implies you understand more about PR spin than computing architecture.
That machine translation makes my brain hurt.
In Xcode, you click on a target, you switch to "Build Settings", and under "ARCHS" you add any architecture that you want to build for. You'd want add arm64 and perhaps arm64e. But there are also settings provided by Xcode itself, and ARM architectures would probably be already added there. That shouldn't take you more than a minute, and if you have five targets, maybe 5 minutes.
If you have truly ancient code, there may be places where your code checks "is this running on an Intel processor" and if not, assumes it is running on a PowerPC. That will obviously go wrong so you'd do a quick search for your codebase and remove these things. Less than a minute to check.
That's a pipe dream. Apple won't cannibalise their iPad market with an ultra-cheap laptop, and they certainly will not pass any potential savings on to their customers. That shareholder value has to be kept high.
"Supported" is a strong word when the last version of OS X running on PPC Macs was released only three years after the switch.
"Arm" is the correct capitalisation.
Question: Would an ARM CPU as host mean that a virtual machine of an earlier version of macOS (written for PowerPC or Intel) would no longer work? Or is the host and guest completely independent of one another?
iPad 1st gen wouldn't have been $499 if it used a third party CPU. Plus you're skipping over the fact that Chromebooks ate up Apple's educational market and Intel chips are known to be one of the most expensive parts of the computer. This move is so obvious.
No. Apple cannibalizing themselves is an obvious smart move. You just need to get users locked into one of Apple's products and they'll end up being part of the ecosystem. Students will start wanting the rest of Apple's product lineups since they work well together.
I also don't think that Apple computers will get cheaper. At best we will get better performance at the same price. The saving are going to increase the profit margins.
No. $499 without keyboard or pencil means you can't do much. Not even the $329 iPad was popular among education simply because it's not an all in one device and it's too risky to give tablet a try.
It makes me wonder what Apple wants to achieve with the switch to ARM.
IMHO, not just "faster and cheaper".
The PPC -> Intel switch surely was a case of "if you can't beat them, join them". Intel CPUs were simply much faster and cheaper than PPC with less heat issues too.
So that move was simply to get the Mac going forward for years to come on Mac OS X, and the fun of being able to run Windows on the Mac natively was a nice little extra.
Moving to ARM with Catalysed based apps already seeing the light, could also mean the beginning of the end of macOS as we know it.
As more an more apps might become "iOS first" in the future, with macOS versions maybe loosing focus, maybe Apple is trying to leverage macOS 11, i.e. "iOS-on-Mac" in the near future, say WWDC 2022 or 2023.
Instead of getting Windows on all devices, Apple might get iOS on all devices. Phone, Tablet, Computer.
And, let's call it OS.
Adobe and Microsoft are doing their best already...
IMHO, not just "faster and cheaper".
The PPC -> Intel switch surely was a case of "if you can't beat them, join them". Intel CPUs were simply much faster and cheaper than PPC with less heat issues too.
So that move was simply to get the Mac going forward for years to come on Mac OS X, and the fun of being able to run Windows on the Mac natively was a nice little extra.
Moving to ARM with Catalysed based apps already seeing the light, could also mean the beginning of the end of macOS as we know it.
As more an more apps might become "iOS first" in the future, with macOS versions maybe loosing focus, maybe Apple is trying to leverage macOS 11, i.e. "iOS-on-Mac" in the near future, say WWDC 2022 or 2023.
Instead of getting Windows on all devices, Apple might get iOS on all devices. Phone, Tablet, Computer.
And, let's call it OS.
Adobe and Microsoft are doing their best already...
Apple's already doing that with their current line up of products.
Also, I get the impression you don't understand what "cannibalizing" means in this context: Apple releasing a $500 MacBook means they sell less $500+ iPads. That's the opposite of a smart move.
Furthermore, what's with that serial disliking of my other, completely unrelated posts?
Virtualisation only works on the same type of CPU. An operating system for Intel CPUs can only be virtualised on Intel CPUs. Everything else is emulation and comes with a significant performance overhead and compatibility issues.
In addition, Intel CPUs have specific functions for virtualisation which Arm CPUs lack.
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