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...and Vista Ultimate was one of the "best" products that suited your needs?

I'd love to see your 'Microsoft Plus!' collection sometime. I'm sure it's breathtaking.

:D

You should see his Steve Ballmer Underoos.
 
Well if it's true, then at least that statement wasn't false. You might argue it was incomplete.

Your statements that I responded to were false.

Macbook Pros made from a certain period between 2007 and 2008 have a terrible hard drive issue. They fail at a very high rate - catastrophically. The way they fail usually prevents even expensive data-recovery services from saving your data, because the head literally rips up the platter. This was a well known issue even back in 2007/8 but Apple didn't comment or do anything else about it until this past month. It was a very controversial thing that irked a lot of die-hard Mac fans.

Fantastic history lesson. But, again, what do bad hard drives have to do with anything?
 
Looking at the history, I have to say that that's probably got a lot more to do with trying to do what is strategically best than what they'd really prefer. Sometimes (as you obviously know), you need to let sleeping dogs lie to avoid getting yourself into trouble, too. Apple's done an awful lot of that in it's history.

That said, even if it's not about the suits, it's about the patents. They patent everything, and that's the problem I have. I believe in the right of a company to patent an idea, but some of the things Apple patents are such basic things that, well, it gives rise to jokes on this forum about patenting the wheel.

They have far fewer patents than many of their competitors, and the patents are of equal quality (I've read them).
 
I'm slowly realizing just what a douche of a company Apple really is. I'm not sure why I didn't see it earlier, but being around their fans has finally opened my eyes to what little lies behind the status symbol exterior. Apple isn't an anti-Microsoft company, they're just a different type of Microsoft. I know there is no hope for all the Koolaid drinking Apple fanatics to see the error of Apple's ways but hopefully those outside of the reality distortion zone will eventually realize what's going on here. Most of the lawsuit fraud in our legal system comes from corporate patent abusers who take overly broad concepts awarded in their favor and use them to sue the hell out of other companies, not from grandma trying to receive compensation for hyper-inflated hospital bills from McDonalds.
 
Your statements that I responded to were false.

I said iPhones don't multitask. You said they do. I guess what it comes down to is that what the iPhone does, I wouldn't call multi-tasking, and it doesn't really qualify according to the definition of what true multi-tasking does, either.

Fantastic history lesson. But, again, what do bad hard drives have to do with anything?

It was a JOKE. About your statement that Mac users probably using Time Machine more than Windows users use their backup software. I was going for some levity in this oh-so-serious discussion. That's all. :)
 
I'm slowly realizing just what a douche of a company Apple really is. I'm not sure why I didn't see it earlier, but being around their fans has finally opened my eyes to what little lies behind the status symbol exterior. Apple isn't an anti-Microsoft company, they're just a different type of Microsoft. I know there is no hope for all the Koolaid drinking Apple fanatics to see the error of Apple's ways but hopefully those outside of the reality distortion zone will eventually realize what's going on here. Most of the lawsuit fraud in our legal system comes from corporate patent abusers who take overly broad concepts awarded in their favor and use them to sue the hell out of other companies, not from grandma trying to receive compensation for hyper-inflated hospital bills from McDonalds.

Care to back up any of that rhetoric with fact?
 
What you call extravagance, some would call usability. I'd be willing to bet a larger percentage of Leopard and Snow Leopard users actively use Time Machine than Vista and 7 users use the Windows equivalent.

I can't make that bet myself...but I am friends with far to many people, Mac and PC users alike that do not own an external HDD or back up their files. (huge pet peeve of mine).


The thing is, I don't think its anymore usable than Windows Shadow Copy. You just go to the properties of your location and you have:
Previous_Versions_Vista.png


ANd if there are previous copies it lists them there....I don't know how thats not usable.


But regardless, i've actually never used it to restore my files on Windows 7 because I have never permanently deleted a file i've needed....at least not in recent memory haha.
 
They have far fewer patents than many of their competitors, and the patents are of equal quality (I've read them).

I'm sorry, but I just think that half the stuff they're patenting shouldn't be patented. For example, in this current suit we have the patent of the unlock slider. Shouldn't be patented.

Just my opinion, of course, but it's the reason I feel the way I do.
 
I'm slowly realizing just what a douche of a company Apple really is. I'm not sure why I didn't see it earlier, but being around their fans has finally opened my eyes to what little lies behind the status symbol exterior. Apple isn't an anti-Microsoft company, they're just a different type of Microsoft. I know there is no hope for all the Koolaid drinking Apple fanatics to see the error of Apple's ways but hopefully those outside of the reality distortion zone will eventually realize what's going on here. Most of the lawsuit fraud in our legal system comes from corporate patent abusers who take overly broad concepts awarded in their favor and use them to sue the hell out of other companies, not from grandma trying to receive compensation for hyper-inflated hospital bills from McDonalds.

So I'm guessing you're selling your Apple stuff?
 
Here are the top thieves ranked accordingly.

1) Microsoft
2) Apple
3) Google
..
..
..
..
20) HTC


Apple is just a better thief than HTC :D
 
He did not say "HE" as in Picasso, he said "WE", as in Apple. Time for an ear cleaning.

I was just merely pointing out the different quotes because the original OP seemed to have them mixed up:

Picasso: Good artists copy, great artist steal.
Jobs: We have always been shameful about stealing great ideas.

I won't dignify the last part of your post with an answer.
 
I can't make that bet myself...but I am friends with far to many people, Mac and PC users alike that do not own an external HDD or back up their files. (huge pet peeve of mine).


The thing is, I don't think its anymore usable than Windows Shadow Copy. You just go to the properties of your location and you have:
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ANd if there are previous copies it lists them there....I don't know how thats not usable.


But regardless, i've actually never used it to restore my files on Windows 7 because I have never permanently deleted a file i've needed....at least not in recent memory haha.

That interface, however, just lets you access revision history for still-extant files that were archived on internal disk. How do you handle external backups and files that no longer exist?
 
Here are the top thieves ranked accordingly.

1) Microsoft
2) Apple
3) Google
..
..
..
..
20) HTC


Apple is just a better thief than HTC :D

I would switch apple and MS, after all, apple stole the whole OS code from OSS community. At least MS wrote all the windows code.
 
I'm sorry, but I just think that half the stuff they're patenting shouldn't be patented. For example, in this current suit we have the patent of the unlock slider. Shouldn't be patented.

Just my opinion, of course, but it's the reason I feel the way I do.

Ok. you are entitled to your opinion, but that patent is no worse than most of their competitor's patents.

Further, under the patent law, they are entitled to that patent as long as no one invented it before them, and as long as it wouldn't have been obvious to anyone to invent it at the time they invented it - since no one seems to have done it, chances are it wasn't that obvious. (Beware hindsight bias - everything seems obvious once you've seen it done).
 
Same thing goes to proximity sensors, light sensors and even accelerometers in phones. Who was the first to use all these in a mobile phone? :apple:.

Not sure about proximity sensors (not really an issue on a non-touchscreen phone - perhaps all those pre-iPhone WinMo phones had them), but Apple certainly was not the first for:

light sensors - I had a Nokia 6630 (and that probably wasn't the first) that dates from oh, 2004? It uses it to dim/brighten the screen based on the light level it sees. Is that what Apple uses it for?

accelerometer - the 2006 N95 has one. It is used for auto-rotating pictures (if you are taking a image in a portait format, it rotates it to suit) and rotating the screen (once needed a third-party application, now part of the firmware).

I am not saying that either of those examples were the first, but the first I know of. There are probably others that are even older.
 
No new Feautures?

The only reason for luck of some features on iPhone is because of Apple could not figure out how and where to steal it from.:D
 
It's called "Future Shock", and a lot of those naysayers mysteriously want one now.
Your future of computing is a likely disaster in the making. I had really hoped you had higher expectations.

I'm still not going to play all my cards. I'll keep going to the library.
 
That's one of my favorite Apple patents (stolen from corp at Engadget):

"Patent #5,456,089

Process of inhaling and exhaling oxygen from inhaled air and releasing carbon dioxide by exhalation while holding a multi-touch handheld apple device (granted 4BC)"

:D
 
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