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But...they did though...many times in their speeches on why they can't allow sideloading and in their hilariously bad PDF they sent to Brussels to try to convince them not to pass the DMA


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Again: their words, not mine
I didn't see anything in the PDF that stated that the App Store is 100% secure
 
Hmm must have changed since I last used a Mac after I sold my 2012 rMBP in 2019.

Then you could se all three 🤔 and still to right click to be able to run it the first time.

The "Anywhere" option was removed from the GUI I think in Sierra.
 
Well you can, it will just not work and not because Tesla prevents you.

So if I want to install new weal covers on my Tesla that I bought from a non Tesla dealer, and every time I try to install them an invisible force field just keeps preventing any non approved accessories from being installed.

Why is the only alternative to buy a Lada?


I am voting with my dollars and i emailed my representatives that I can’t install my pink wheel covers on my property.

And then I filed a complaint to the courts that I can’t sell my wheel covers to Tesla users because the can’t physically touch them because of some strange force field.

As they are interfering in my business opportunity.

And that I’m only allowed to sell it through official stores as long as they are pink. Any other color is rejected.

It quite literally doesn’t say anything of value to apple. They prevent the proper functioning of the free market.

Oh people stoped buying iPhones? Was it bad cameras? Bad battery? Bad screen? Mad iMessage? Bad APIs? Who knows let’s ad extra emojis to increase sales
Free market? No Apple facilitates a free market. They have a digital marketplace just like Costco has a physical marketplace.

We clearly have different thinking, which is the way it’s supposed to be, but will never be on the same page for this one topic. It does seem though those from the eu want apple regulated, while those who are against big tech also wants apple regulated. then there are those who believe this is government overreach, plain and simple.

Can’t please everybody at the same time.
 
Yes let companies run however they want.

  • The electric company yeah let them mark up their prices during the winter, it's their business they can run it however they want.
  • Microsoft should force everyone to use Edge instead of whatever browser they want on Windows, after all it's their company they should run it however they want.
  • John Deere being forced to give schematics and allowing farmers to repair their tractors that cost as much as three Lamborghinis is stupid. They should be allowed to run their company however they want, making the farmers go to their dealers and pay $15000 for a $500 field repair.
  • Those natural gas companies fracking near towns shouldn't be held liable for damages to the environment or contamination of the public drinking water. It's their company and they should be able to run it however they want.
  • Apple? Yeah they can lock down software distribution, and keep their iPhones on lightning, and not let people repair their own phones. After all it's their company the government shouldn't restrict their business

Teddy Roosevelt cracked down on the railroad corporations for a reason Jeremy.
Electricity is a utility. Something we have to have. Totally different.

Yes. Let Microsoft do that. Then people will buy something else. Markets can fix any "abuse" a company tries to do by purchasing something else.

If the farmers purchase knowing that is the case, there's no problem.

If they buy the land, it's theirs to do what they want with. Damaging your own property is really your problem alone.

Yes, Apple can do that. No one should tell them what ports they have to do, or who they have to let sell stuff for their platform. It's stupid as hell.
 
Electricity is a utility. Something we have to have. Totally different.

Yes. Let Microsoft do that. Then people will buy something else. Markets can fix any "abuse" a company tries to do by purchasing something else.

If the farmers purchase knowing that is the case, there's no problem.

If they buy the land, it's theirs to do what they want with. Damaging your own property is really your problem alone.

Yes, Apple can do that. No one should tell them what ports they have to do, or who they have to let sell stuff for their platform. It's stupid as hell.

I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and guess you're a Libertarian aren't you?
 
Yes. Let Microsoft do that. Then people will buy something else. Markets can fix any "abuse" a company tries to do by purchasing something else.

That's only true in an idealistic free market with zero barrier-to-entry and zero vendor lock-in. Real markets are very different and that's the reason regulation is necessary.

If the farmers purchase knowing that is the case, there's no problem.

Most markets recognize fundamental aspect that needs to be respected by a product for sale which cannot be signed away in a contract. As example, consumer's statutory warranty rights cannot be signed away, even were the buyer willing to waive them.

"Right to repair" is a relatively new concept, but it's not unreasonable for it to get included in those "fundamental aspects" that a vendor has to provide.

If they buy the land, it's theirs to do what they want with. Damaging your own property is really your problem alone.

In those instances the "damage" is sometimes not limited to their property though. E.g. if a groundwater gets contaminated, that contamination can potentially spill over to others outside of the property.
 
"Right to repair" is a relatively new concept, but it's not unreasonable for it to get included in those "fundamental aspects" that a vendor has to provide.

It didn't use to be a new concept. Back before the current age of computers self repairability used to be commonplace due to regulation from congress on the automotive industry. But unfortunately said laws are now outdated and haven't caught up to modern devices. Now we got John Deere putting computer chips in $300,000+ tractors that will break the whole tractor if a farmer even dares to try to fix it themselves, and Apple serializing every component of our iPhones and Macs designed to make key features like Face ID no longer work if we dare to replace the glass ourselves and not go through Apple's overpriced repairs.
 
I'm someone that thinks federal governments shouldn't even exist. Let states make their own rules, and have nothing more than a supreme court to decide if those laws are constitutional.

So the answer is yes you are a Libertarian. Got it. That answers everything perfectly.

You realize deregulation is how we lost net neutrality right?
 
So the answer is yes you are a Libertarian. Got it. That answers everything perfectly.

You realize deregulation is how we lost net neutrality right?
The loss of Net neutrality for many folks won’t even sound any alarm or have any grasp of what they have lost. The bar of nationwide major shakeup have to be so incredibly low, reaching that level is nearly impossible.
 
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I'm someone that thinks federal governments shouldn't even exist. Let states make their own rules, and have nothing more than a supreme court to decide if those laws are constitutional.

That only moves the problem to a different level, but the problem still exists.

Furthermore, the need for common rules is also due to inter-state or international commerce. A state or nation is unlikely to be able to completely isolate itself to the point that they are unaffected by inter-state or international agreements that put requirements on how their market needs to function.
 
That only moves the problem to a different level, but the problem still exists.

Furthermore, the need for common rules is also due to inter-state or international commerce. A state or nation is unlikely to be able to completely isolate itself to the point that they are unaffected by inter-state or international agreements that put requirements on how their market needs to function.

Case in point when Texas was freezing to death in the Winter Storm of 2021, it was the federal government that came to our aide with emergency diesel and repairs to our frozen power plants, while our state leaders were out of state off vacationing in god damn Cancun Mexico!
 
Literally nothing changed because of that.

But they did though. When Net Neutrality got repelled all the ISPs immediately began throttling customers to push them to sign up for higher cost plans. Two months after Net Neutrality was repealed California had a horrible wildfire and Verizon was throttling the Santa Clara County Fire Department’s broadband during the whole thing, and Verizon said they would only stop throttling if the fire department paid double.


Net Neutrality was important to making sure everyone had the same internet traffic no matter how much they paid or where they lived or what current event was happening, and that ISPs couldn't slow you down or block your traffic. All that went out the window in 2018 and we saw the effects immediately after.

Spectrum is still throttling my ass especially during Wednesdays when streaming services drop new episodes of their popular shows.
 
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But they did though. When Net Neutrality got repelled all the ISPs immediately began throttling customers to push them to sign up for higher cost plans. Two months after Net Neutrality was repealed California had a horrible wildfire and Verizon was throttling the Santa Clara County Fire Department’s broadband during the whole thing, and Verizon said they would only stop throttling if the fire department paid double.


Net Neutrality was important to making sure everyone had the same internet traffic no matter how much they paid or where they lived or what current event was happening, and that ISPs couldn't slow you down or block your traffic. All that went out the window in 2018 and we saw the effects immediately after.

Spectrum is still throttling my ass especially during Wednesdays when streaming services drop new episodes of their popular shows.
Sounds like you and the fire department need a new ISP then.
 
Sounds like you and the fire department need a new ISP then.

Which might be impossible at least in the short term and at a reasonable price if e.g. the infrastructure is not in place for the new ISP to serve them, which might be very well the case here. For a new provider to serve a new area it might take years and a lot of upfront investment.

That's why e.g. in my country the FTTH lines are regulated to belong to the utility and ISPs don't have their own exclusive line to the customer. This way once the fiber-optic reaches a customer, said customers is not locked to a single ISP and has the ability to chose between a multitude of providers that compete on price and features.
 
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What do you mean by "exploit"?
What They Do to Elderly People

Here is a nice example for what I mean when I say: American corporations are used to exploit their customers in every which way without much government intervention.

The EU exists mainly as a protection against US corporatism. The purpose was always to form a political body big and strong enough to subjugate even the likes of Apple Inc. Because if we don’t govern them, they’ll sure govern us!

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Or breathe dirty air for that matter.
Nothing is unlimited, same with the definition of property. Market can’t fix everything on its own.
This has to be the worst take I've ever read on the Internet. I guess you don't mind drinking radioactive water?
If you damage someone elses land, they can and should sue for damages. You can harm yourself (if you really want to I guess) but you can't harm others, that violates the Non-agression principle. I do want to take care of the planet, but certain types of over-regulation actually stops some innovations in green energy from happening faster.
 
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I prefer not to have side loading, one of the biggest reasons I buy the iPhone is because it has no side loading, which makes it a lot more secure!
Yeah, I am very sure iOS has never been successfully attacked and hacked before, nor there are any documented issues on it. Everyone doing journalism also uses iPhone because it is impenetrable.
 
If you damage someone elses land, they can and should sue for damages. You can harm yourself (if you really want to I guess) but you can't harm others, that violates the Non-agression principle. I do want to take care of the planet, but certain types of over-regulation actually stops some innovations in green energy from happening faster.
Maybe those regulations are out of date. Or, maybe those regulations mean this kind of green approach would have a long-lasting impact on society and the environment. The truth is, it is nearly impossible to draw a clear line between your property and your neighbour's property sometimes simply because nature doesn't work like that and literally every other living organism on the planet doesn't give a crap about how we humans set up boundaries.
 
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What They Do to Elderly People

Here is a nice example for what I mean when I say: American corporations are used to exploit their customers in every which way without much government intervention.

The EU exists mainly as a protection against US corporatism. The purpose was always to form a political body big and strong enough to subjugate even the likes of Apple Inc. Because if we don’t govern them, they’ll sure govern us!

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Considering that many nations throughout the world have healthcare systems that would rather euthanize the elderly than care for them, you can't trust the state to run everything. To clarify, I don't trust corporations either. I am skeptical of all power. (And no, not the Alex Jones type of skeptical lol) The US healthcare system definitely needs reform, that is for sure. One way to do that is to lower regulation by making essential medical products like insulin available over the counter. That will allow more competition and will eventually lower prices.
 
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I prefer not to have side loading, one of the biggest reasons I buy the iPhone is because it has no side loading, which makes it a lot more secure!
You will not have to side load.

And I'm typing this on my Mac which has nearly the same data on it as my iPhone, plus a few 'side loaded' apps from trusted developers - and the sky hasn't fallen in.

Admittedly the iPhone is a bigger target though and we can expect a few scam stores.
 
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