Apple Fitness+ Comes With 3 Month Free Trial When Purchasing Apple Watch, But Best Buy Customers Get 6 Months

[7149041]

With VPN you can watch everything Apple TV offers.

It's just easier not to - their loss

 

[ian87w]

With VPN you can watch everything Apple TV offers.

Again, I don't know about Apple, but other services like Netflix and Hulu keep blocking VPN servers as well.
It goes back to @7149041 's point of view as a consumer, that we shouldn't be the one jumping through hoops.

On the other hand, considering Apple manages to bring Apple music to my country (while Google doesn't even bother bringing in their Play Music), maybe Fitness+ will be coming in the future.

 

[matrix07]

Again, I don't know about Apple, but other services like Netflix and Hulu keep blocking VPN servers as well.

Not sure about Hulu but I can access Peacock even though it’s not the Apple TV Channel.

I used to subscribed to US Netflix for quite a while through a DNS service but haven’t tried that for a few years.

 

[7149041]

It goes back to @7149041 's point of view as a consumer, that we shouldn't be the one jumping through hoops.

Especially since there are many free "illegal" (depends on the jurisdiction) sources of their content, one would think they'd want to make it easier for people to pay.

 

[ThaGoochiestMane]

Why would it be any more difficult to cancel than any other Apple service or app subscription?

I intended it sound more like a question than it did. I hope Apple wouldn't, and I don't think they ever would; I was more thinking in terms of whether or not they could based off the classifications of this new service.

I more meant:
Would this give Apple legal protection to implement similarly predatory practices with their health-service/subscription? And if so, would this protection also cover other bundles that include this service?

 

[wigby]

I don't live in your covid soaked country, mate. My country locked down enough to get rid of it (barring a few outbreaks, which are then appropriately contained and isolated). We are now free to safely go about our business and fun more or less at will. It's a shame every other country didn't do the same, or we'd all be more or less back to normal by now, and travelling the world again, sigh.

Thanks for the covid-shaming but you didn’t answer the question.

 

[sideshowuniqueuser]

Thanks for the covid-shaming but you didn’t answer the question.

You said "Why are you comparing the value proposition of access to covid-soaked gym equipment to fitness videos?" - my reply indicated that gyms in my country (and many others) aren't covid-soaked, so I'm not comparing them. Your question was insular. Also, your question assumed the existence of covid, but one day covid will be gone/solved, and Apple fitness will still be an overpriced gloried YT channel.

 

[wigby]

You said "Why are you comparing the value proposition of access to covid-soaked gym equipment to fitness videos?" - my reply indicated that gyms in my country (and many others) aren't covid-soaked, so I'm not comparing them. Your question was insular. Also, your question assumed the existence of covid, but one day covid will be gone/solved, and Apple fitness will still be an overpriced gloried YT channel.

Stay clear of that 2nd wave.

 

[sideshowuniqueuser]

Stay clear of that 2nd wave.

We had that already - localised and contained to that local area, which went on hardcore restrictions (and is still on). The rest of the country occasionally has a local breakout somewhere, and that area gets shut down. It's not hard to do if there is will to do it. Most areas have had zero cases for ages, so we can freely go about our business. People have even started shaking hands again.

To pull this success off, you have to have a number of conditions:
1) The people have to have a culture of willingness to pull in together to get things done. If your society is split down the middle, like say, the US is, where there is an extremely strong democrats/lefties vs republicans/righties, then it's impossible.
2) There has to be the political will to do it. The politicians have to want to do it. This is largely driven by point (1) though.
3) There has to be government payments for people to stop work so the country can shut down almost completely to stop covid in it's tracks. Basically, if your country has a large poor underclass that is working three jobs just to eat, and if that underclass isn't getting food and rent paid if they stop working, then they simply can't stop working, and the virus simply can't stop spreading. Most rich western countries can afford this easily, but in many there is an attitude that it is wrong to support poor people. Ironically, these same countries are the ones throwing $trillions of free helicopter money to the ultra-rich in the form of QE in a failed attempt at stimulus.

 

[hereforbeer]

I'd just like to say: Peloton is f@$d.

Peloton is $30/month plus the cost of a very expensive, overpriced treadmill whose only price is justified by the display mounted to it and the associated classes.

Fitness+ is only $9.99 and works with an iPad or any existing TV with tv and also works with dozens of other workouts, not just running — and it's included in Apple One for even less than that (essentially free with other services).

Peloton has a head start by the installed base of treadmill owners but anybody thinking of getting into smart fitness at home will think twice about spending thousands of dollars on this premium treadmill when they can instead use their Apple Watch.

I think we'll see a community build up around Fitness+ as it gets going. You'll be able to challenge your friends and join classes simultaneously.

The version of Peloton that compares with Fitness+ is the Peloton app. It costs $12.99 a month and requires no Peloton equipment. The more expensive subscriptions are the versions you need to use with their equipment, those don't compare and will not compete with Fitness+, at least for a while. It's amazing the lack of proper communication and marketing by the Peloton that most people still argue that it requires expensive equipment and expensive membership.

The "cheaper" treadmill that works with Apple Gymkit is still a $14,000 Technogym. Apple is far behind in connected home gym hardware. They've focussed on commercial gym equipment connectivity so far. Will they push for home gym equipment to work with Gymkit? Sure. Will it be cheaper than Peloton? Probably not.

The actual reason why Peloton is in trouble is that this will hamper their international expansion. While I understand why Peloton can't expand their bike and treadmill products internationally quickly, there was no reason to limit the app and $12.99 membership to US only. Peloton had such a golden opportunity when Beachbody on Demand International was shut down.

Fitness+ will come to ~100 countries where TV+ is by next year, and will be practically free with Apple One. Then Peloton is in trouble. They're doomed forever when Google finally buys out Fitbit and has native and strong Fitness ecosystem on Android, probably bundled with Youtube Premium.