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Apple Further Refutes Bloomberg Report Suggesting Chinese Spies Tampered With iCloud Servers
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I wonder if Apple will use that cover in their “Shot on iPhone XS Max” campaign?
Zero clue? Apple just said it's plain false. I certainly trust a formal Apple statement more than Bloomberg.
Resorting to an old school personal attack surely strenghtens your point.
Well, if Apple doesn't sue Bloomberg for libel, then there's your answer.
I'm thinking Super Micro has an open-and-shut case. Either Bloomberg is right, in which case they can produce evidence, or Super Micro's legal team is going to have a field day with discovery (and then attorney's fees on the inevitable judgment/settlement).
If this story were true, don't you think the U.S. government would stop ordering and using Super Micro servers immediately?
To this day, Super Micro is receiving government orders. And remains GSA certified.
To this day, Super Micro is receiving government orders. And remains GSA certified.
If Bloomberg is getting their info from Trump government sources, then of course they can't be trusted.
Or just in line with a bigger geopolitical agenda.
I have exactly none of these questions. Seems like it’s time for Bloomberg News to post a grovelly retraction.
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From a technical view, this story make zero sense.
1. How would this chip receive power without obvious PCB traces?
2. If thousands of servers were affected, everyone from Apple to Amazon, wouldn't we have seen photographic evidence of this chip? Or more whistle blowers?
3. How come the U.S. government and military continue to use and procure Super Micro servers?
4. If an adversary wanted to do a hack, they would modify the baseband management controller directly by spinning a new stepping with additional logic. Super Micro controls the BMC design. Just like Apple controls the A12 design.
1. How would this chip receive power without obvious PCB traces?
2. If thousands of servers were affected, everyone from Apple to Amazon, wouldn't we have seen photographic evidence of this chip? Or more whistle blowers?
3. How come the U.S. government and military continue to use and procure Super Micro servers?
4. If an adversary wanted to do a hack, they would modify the baseband management controller directly by spinning a new stepping with additional logic. Super Micro controls the BMC design. Just like Apple controls the A12 design.
So.. Do people really think that Bloomberg would be dumb enough to publish an article taking on the two most powerful and valuable companies, along with the Chinese government without credible sources?
The great length by both companies to deny this shows it really got under their skin.. So either Bloomberg is poking a wound or it's really fake news. Somewhere in the middle though, is the truth.
The great length by both companies to deny this shows it really got under their skin.. So either Bloomberg is poking a wound or it's really fake news. Somewhere in the middle though, is the truth.
Apple is simply refusing to hear the very loud message being sent:
It's time to pack up and leave China
It's time to pack up and leave China
This Post-Truth World we live in and everything that goes with it means we cannot always trust what news reporters tell us about any subject.
Bloomberg has nothing to lose with this piece, but lots of page views to gain.
It's a cloak and dagger article, with no named sources, redacted documents, nor even grainy images of the so-called chip.
Did I miss Bloomberg's response to Apple's latest assertion, where Bloomberg names sources and provides proof?
Zero clue? Yeah, keep believing. No need to be fussy about what you read.
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Who is going to trust these “journalists” from now on?
Fake or not, the current administration wins. If it is believable, it wins the narrative against China. If it’s not, it wins the narrative that today’s journalism is fake news.
Fake or not, the current administration wins. If it is believable, it wins the narrative against China. If it’s not, it wins the narrative that today’s journalism is fake news.
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Or Apple is lying. People, and companies, lie you know.
Ah, the grey fallacy rears its ugly head. One person says “white” while another person says “black.” Everyone assumes “grey” is the truth.
It’s lazy thinking. If Bloomberg can’t produce any evidence, false is still false.
Juli, would you please clarify to us if the hyperlink to the Amazon page at the end of the article is an affiliate link where MacRumors would receive commission if someone bought a product from Amazon afterwards? I hope that's not the case, because we expect proper disclosure when you do that.
Why is that particular link going through georiot.com (their site headline being: "Squeeze more revenue out of every link you share") and no other link in this article?
Why is that particular link going through georiot.com (their site headline being: "Squeeze more revenue out of every link you share") and no other link in this article?
This. Someone is DEFINITELY lying, and probably has an agenda behind why they are doing so. Could it be a true story, and the firms are lying, with cover provided by Uncle Sam? Could happen. Lot of bad things could go down if this story is true. I encourage people to read the article. It's long, and quite specific. 17 sources they say they have for this. If Bloomberg was led on, that in itself is quite a story.
I have been closely following tech for 25 years. This is by far one of the most bizarre stories in tech I can ever remember. Quite shocking. You are nuts btw, if you don't think the USA moving most of our manufacturing to other countries with nukes pointed at us, China for example, over the past few decades, wasn't us opening a massive, massive security hole for just these kind of attacks, which absolutely do occur. Whether this story is true or not, we shall see, and we may never know. But again -- you're nuts, if you don't think this is going on, to some degree.
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When two ostensibly benevolent parties fight, one must consider there is a third party in the room—perhaps in a corner, crouched, as if he is biding his time reading a newspaper or some such.
When confronted, this third party will undeniably claim ignorance. It is not a matter though to convict him of his moral duty, for he is in fact not the perpetrator of origin who would never be found in the same room. He is only the proximate catalyst. What you must do is negotiate a sum for such a mercenary higher than the originator of all this chaos. If he cannot be swayed with earthly goods, you must convince him that his leader has confused his own orthodoxy and perverted the aims to which his kin have aspired.
Then he shall bring you to the leader of mayhem.
On the way, however, he will undoubtedly be felled by agents of the true leader who anticipated the fickleness of the man in the corner. It is then you must follow those with arrows who would shoot down one of their own to protect the cause. They, the most loyal, will truly bring you to the leader who caused the two benevolent parties to waste their time fighting each other, while the leader has sewn profit through distraction.
But you wonder then, was not the hunt for this leader not yet a second distraction?
In asking that question, you have finally found the answer to a question you should have asked long ago.
When confronted, this third party will undeniably claim ignorance. It is not a matter though to convict him of his moral duty, for he is in fact not the perpetrator of origin who would never be found in the same room. He is only the proximate catalyst. What you must do is negotiate a sum for such a mercenary higher than the originator of all this chaos. If he cannot be swayed with earthly goods, you must convince him that his leader has confused his own orthodoxy and perverted the aims to which his kin have aspired.
Then he shall bring you to the leader of mayhem.
On the way, however, he will undoubtedly be felled by agents of the true leader who anticipated the fickleness of the man in the corner. It is then you must follow those with arrows who would shoot down one of their own to protect the cause. They, the most loyal, will truly bring you to the leader who caused the two benevolent parties to waste their time fighting each other, while the leader has sewn profit through distraction.
But you wonder then, was not the hunt for this leader not yet a second distraction?
In asking that question, you have finally found the answer to a question you should have asked long ago.
Someone has their thinking cap on. Gold star for you!
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Methinks you don't quite understand how anonymous sources work.
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May I ask why this is? You may well be right. But I have no reason to give Apple the benefit of the doubt. Companies lie all the time. Apple is the biggest company. You think it was all 100% squeaky clean to get there?
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Amazon, Apple, and SuperMicro now all have very good reasons to sue Bloomberg. Think about how damaging this is, true or not. Your brand is damaged. They sue when this happens. We'll see what happens -- it will be very telling indeed.
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