Ars Technica has a similar artical last year theorizing Apple dumped Supermicro for malware found in firmware in their servers and Apple very diligently denied that too even though apparently there was cited reports that Supermicro had issues with Apple refusing to work with them on the issue and providing firmware version that apparently was incorrect and then stopped any discussions further. Does make me wonder why this is a constant thing brought up with decent detail laid out.
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Apple Further Refutes Bloomberg Report Suggesting Chinese Spies Tampered With iCloud Servers
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You trust the most valuable company in America to tell the truth about something that could take that very title from them?
That’s insanely sad.
Unreal. I can't believe that people are actually believing the statement by Apple over Bloomberg. BLOOMBERG. This isn't coming from Slate, Breitbart, Buzzfeed or Huffington Post. The article flows well, reads well, and there does not seem to be any gaps of missing information in the story.
If China really did this, and if they somehow did this to consumer devices - I have a hard time seeing how the US Government would not take this as an act of war.
While I cannot assert the validity of this story, many agencies have their hardware scanned before being placed in sensitive areas. The reason is very much inline with this article. Regarding the companies affected, it may be possible dunno.
The question is did a foreign government permit this action, did another foreign government permit this and make it seem like another foreign government was behind this action. We cannot be sure, is the manufacturer doing it for another third-party entity and making it seem like it is a foreign or host government behind these actions, also unable to say. Maybe the manufacturer is making it seem that it is a third-party or a host or foreign government, yet it is actually them.
Too many questions, too many parties involved and possibilities. No point in judging this early, every company involved is going to claim their own narrative to further their agenda to not look foolish considering this possibility has been exposed.
Not enough information to come to a conclusion, as it is too early.
Bloomberg has been increasingly critical of Apple of late, and I find that many of their articles don’t even hold water. Insinuating that Apple was deliberately lowering QC standards of Face ID last year so as to boost yields was a new low for them.
I regard them as trashy tabloid news for anything related to Apple.
It’s really sad to see people choose to believe power over those that hold power accountable.
Bloomberg, show us your evidence, or you'll be put into the "fake news" bin. The article is nice and all, but all we need is some pictures or something.
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I've read plenty of articles from reputable news outlets, only to think twice about their summary after finding the original source myself... and in this case we don't know the source.
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They're both power.
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The missing information is that they cite nothing. I'm not going to accuse Bloomberg of outright lying. But they could have gotten something mixed up, or they could be misleading.
I've read plenty of articles from reputable news outlets, only to think twice about their summary after finding the original source myself... and in this case we don't know the source.
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It could be that there's something related to that that's actually true and is causing false stories to pop up. Or the stories are just true, and Apple is denying it. I think both are likely. I know Apple or any other corp would deny it if it actually happened.
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Besides the China issue, Apple probably doesn't want to be put in the position of having to explain why the trillion dollar maker of Macs and Mac OS uses anything other than Mac server computers and Mac server OS in those giant data centers. "Eating their own dog food" as the expression goes.
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Hahaha. You people are so funny. Company statements have much more serious implications if they are lying. Media, on the other hand, have almost none. Let’s see whether Supermicro sues Bloomberg for libel. I am very much expecting this, with amazon and apple backing. That will be WAR
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Anyone can take a picture of any obscure (let’s say university designed, not commercial) random chip and claim it to be the chip in question. I’m 100% certain they don’t have proof. If they had, they would have shown it.
Not really. In a libel suit, the plaintiff needs to prove that the defendant knew the statement was false, or should have known it to be false. I'm completely sure that Bloomberg had multiple very good reasons to believe the story to be true.
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Shame on Bloomberg indeed. Posting stories like that with zero proof, that now 3 companies have flat denied all the supposed facts, is not a good look for them
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If they had good reason then they should be presenting that. As it is the story reads like they pulled bull out of their collective butts for hits. And probably know it.
But that said, I doubt Apple will waste time suing them. Better to take the high road and let Bloomberg look like hit whoring bloggers instead of actual journos.
Once you strip away all the hype, the "cloud" is just YOUR data on SOMEONE ELSE's drive.
Would NEVER use the cloud for anything except business. No personal data...EVER!!!
Would NEVER use the cloud for anything except business. No personal data...EVER!!!
Bloomberg Television, reporter Jordan Robertson, your job has been put on notice! Give up your sources or their departments or suffer BS rath.
Yep.
https://arstechnica.com/information...m-datacenters-because-of-bad-firmware-update/
Gotta love how many people there are with open mouths, ready to swallow whatever Apple is feeding them.
But you believe Bloomberg? You know they thrive by clicks?
Whoever is lying, I hope it gets done for this.
I personally trust media just as much as I trust politicians. They can be just as evil.
And if they are lying, I hope Apple releases all their fury and sue them.
The lady doth protest too much?
We’ll never know the truth. The possibility, however, is scary. All of our tech is made in China in huge mega-factories that are larger than many US cities. Business and government interests are closely linked. Is it so far-fetched to imagine the scenario Bloomingberg suggests? I don’t think so.
Lol. Do you even know what Bloomberg does? How well their employees do their jobs?!
Although their Bloomberg TV presenters have a different standard but I’ve yet to see Bloomberg wrong on anything reported in 20yrs or ever need to retract.
I’m suspecting the line fron Apple stating they’ve updated their servers former or motherboard firmware; have Apple did a complete hardware chip audit on the entire board?! Apple hasn’t said so, thus I’m not sure Apple is fully aware. Apple stated no internal employee could vet this leak or have been the source - but did they check their consultants and contractors that do work at other sites from their HQ?! Have Apple stated this? No they haven’t explicitly which goes to show just how sensitive such a report can actually be.
Considering Apple themselves dropped OUT of their server business and now many software components of macOS server is now Linux apps ... with macOS just last year having left a system wide ROOT admin account to have no password in high Sierra lol I’m inclined to not give Apple a full pass on this no matter how strong their statement is. If Mansfield was fully in charge of hardware including their server division and any of his predecessors of years past yes I would fully believe them. Not now.
You randomly believe everything the media tells you, just because? Are you serious?
Apple could have given a generic press statement. But they didn’t. They decided to specifically call out Bloomberg. They called them out on specific details, even stating they have the email/communication trails to prove it. Do you really think Bloomberg lnows more than Apple or the FBI? It is helpful to employ critical thinking before commenting on these things.
Methinks they doth protest too much.
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Indeed, critical thinking is helpful. As in, assuming that Apple wouldn't lie just because you like their products.
The best critical thinking is not believing you need to choose a side, as another user said: this isn't holy war. We don’t know if it’s either Apple or Bloomberg, and people insisting (aggressively) that it was one or the other - are the ones wrong.
So because of President Trump everyone on earth has turned into liars?
Are we at the Pantomine season yet?
"He's behind you!"
"Oh no he isn't"
"Oh yes he is!"