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I really hope the screen size doesn't get bigger, but many people seem to be falling for "bigger is better." Apple probably needs to increase the screen size to "compete," which is unfortunate for two reasons:

1: I don't want to carry a brick around in my pocket.

2: Dustin Curtis makes a good point about the screen size and usability of 3.5" vs bigger screens (http://dcurt.is/2011/10/03/3-point-5-inches/):

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With a 3.5" screen, your thumb can reach across the whole screen, thus the iPhone is a "one hand" device. When the screen size increases, you need to use two hands to reach the entire surface.

Very good points, having considered that I think Windows Phone 7 has actually tackled that problem without sacrificing screen size.. As you can see the tiles are very much at reach and the screen size is still larger..

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Make the next iphone the same thickness as the ipad 2 or thinner with a 4" screen (hopefully edge to edge) and I'll be happy. And to the ppl who say they don't need to redesign the iphone 4/4s for the next generation, ya i said that when they were going to the 4.
 
And in order to match the competition of the real world, where all other well-selling smartphones like the Galaxy SII have bigger screens.

THERE WILL BE a bigger screen on the next iPhone.

You people just don't get this, do you?

Apple _ Does _ Not _ Make _ New _ Products _ Bigger
 
In the end, what we'll get with the "iPhone 5" is probably going to be something like this:

1. It'll look like a "thicker" 4G iPod touch.
2. Increases the size of the touchscreen to at minimum 4", maybe 4.20" if Apple can figure out how keep the size of the phone from getting too big. Display will still be IPS LCD, mostly due to still-high cost of AMOLED panels.
3. Will use the same image sensors now used on the iPhone 4S.
4. Will probably use improved A5 CPU/GPU with faster clock speed, more CPU cache memory and improved GPU section. May not go to quad-core "A6" CPU/GPU due to power consumption issues.
5. Will incorporate new Broadcom or Qualcomm cellphone chipset that supports GSM, CDMA and 3GPP LTE at very low power consumption.
6. Will add full NFC transceiver functionality that is compatible with the FeliCa standard (widely used in eastern Asia) and the new Isis standard for mobile payments.
7. System RAM now at 1 GB.
8. 32 and 64 GB of flash memory storage.
 
You people just don't get this, do you?

Apple _ Does _ Not _ Make _ New _ Products _ Bigger

Never say Never. The 3.5" screen used by the iPhone is very small in today's world. Things is the market is still trying to figure out the ideal size. It seems to be zeroing in on around 4.3ish-4.5 range. The galaxy Nexus is at the 4.3 size once you adjust for the onscreen buttons.

Look a dumb phones. They kept getting smaller and smaller for a while and the smallest was a pantech phone in 2005ish-06ish and the went up in size and the flip phone/dumb phone settled on a ideal size.
Smart phones are still trying to figure out its range which I figure is 4.0-4.5. I like 4.0-4.3
 
You people just don't get this, do you?

Apple _ Does _ Not _ Make _ New _ Products _ Bigger

You mean like when they went from the 24" iMac to the 27" iMac? I recall iPods getting larger screens year-over-year in some cases also.
 
I really hope the screen size doesn't get bigger, but many people seem to be falling for "bigger is better." Apple probably needs to increase the screen size to "compete," which is unfortunate for two reasons:

1: I don't want to carry a brick around in my pocket.

2: Dustin Curtis makes a good point about the screen size and usability of 3.5" vs bigger screens. With a 3.5" screen, your thumb can reach across the whole screen, thus the iPhone is a "one hand" device. When the screen size increases, you need to use two hands to reach the entire surface.

Which is why Apple should change the aspect ratio of the screen and leave the width of the phone as it is. A "taller" screen would make it bigger but would add most of that screen space under the area a thumb can reach. It would also benefit video playback on the iPhone (larger picture on widescreen video).
 
Wow, these threads are always hilarious.
Very true indeed.

The number of people that are so obsessed over something as inconsequential as what Apple will name the next iPhone, is simply bizarre. It will have absolutely no impact on anything, least of all the demand. The moment the phone is released, all the talk about it's model designation will cease.

Despite all the chatter, all we truly know is that nothing is for certain when it comes to the company that goes to extremes to protect their secrets. They've got a formula that works, that's not about to change. People that are so certain they have even the slightest hint of what's coming, may be the same ones that buy lottery tickets... :)
 
Aw, I was looking forward to the tear-drop. Really easy and comfortable to hold, but also easy to pick up off a table (try picking an iPhone 4/S off the table).

Put your current iPhone into a tear-drop shaped enclosure... wheee! New iPhone 4.5 for you!

What this story tells me about Apple is that its competitors cannot count on Apple to release a new iPhone or iPad or iWhatever at any certain time of the year. Disruptor products at a random times of year = Competitors caught off guard while trying to plan their marketing around Apple. Old SunTzu taught that concept over a thousand years ago.

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I really hope the screen size doesn't get bigger, but many people seem to be falling for "bigger is better." Apple probably needs to increase the screen size to "compete," which is unfortunate for two reasons:

1: I don't want to carry a brick around in my pocket.

2: Dustin Curtis makes a good point about the screen size and usability of 3.5" vs bigger screens (http://dcurt.is/2011/10/03/3-point-5-inches/):

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With a 3.5" screen, your thumb can reach across the whole screen, thus the iPhone is a "one hand" device. When the screen size increases, you need to use two hands to reach the entire surface.

Apple can make the screen size bigger without making the iPhone bigger. Earlier rumors discussed Apple moving the display size in both directions toward the edges of the current size phone.

Doing this will yield a much larger view area, and they don't necessarily have to increase the touch area to match. Ive isn't gonna make bad changes, just remember that. :)
 
In the end, what we'll get with the "iPhone 5" is probably going to be something like this:

1. It'll look like a "thicker" 4G iPod touch.
2. Increases the size of the touchscreen to at minimum 4", maybe 4.20" if Apple can figure out how keep the size of the phone from getting too big. Display will still be IPS LCD, mostly due to still-high cost of AMOLED panels.
3. Will use the same image sensors now used on the iPhone 4S.
4. Will probably use improved A5 CPU/GPU with faster clock speed, more CPU cache memory and improved GPU section. May not go to quad-core "A6" CPU/GPU due to power consumption issues.
5. Will incorporate new Broadcom or Qualcomm cellphone chipset that supports GSM, CDMA and 3GPP LTE at very low power consumption.
6. Will add full NFC transceiver functionality that is compatible with the FeliCa standard (widely used in eastern Asia) and the new Isis standard for mobile payments.
7. System RAM now at 1 GB.
8. 32 and 64 GB of flash memory storage.

HAHAHAHA.... You're kidding, Right? I think you need to go design for Android or Ballmer. Apple isn't gonna write a bloated iOS and anyone with brains won't write a bloated app. The iDevices hardware is optimized with the software to prevent battery drain. Apple takes that into high consideration, something other manufacturers just throw more RAM and MHz and cores at.
 
I think it is silly to think that Apple delays a launch in any significant degree based on just scheduling. Products come out when the manufacturing process can be done at volume for the right price.

If the iPhone 5 can be constructed for about the same price as the iPhone 4S, the Apple will launch it as soon as it is ready. Apple doesn't like other phones having better specs so they aren't going to just hold off for the heck of it when a design is ready to go.

iPhone 5 is dependent on that new LTE chip. When that chip is ready, then iPhone 5 can come out. Size is increasing to allow for bigger battery. Increased screen real estate comes at loss of "pocket fit". Basically that is an even swap for most guys as we carry our phones in our front pocket. (Not saying women don't as well from time to time, but most seem to carry their phone in their purse where space is not at such a premium.)


Actually, Apple is largely concerned about sustaining and surpassing earnings over the year. To do that, product announcements have to be spread out over the four quarters. Apple moved it's iOS update schedule to the Fall. If it sticks to that, a significant update to the iPhone isn't coming out until then. Further, to top this last quarter, Apple will need a major iPhone to be released in the Fall. I can see Apple offering a minor revision to the iPhone in the Summer to bring T-Mobile on Board. That would help sustain summer earnings.

I suspect the only major product release before Summer will be an iPad revision this Spring. Apple needs that to maintain earnings for the Spring Quarter.

The LTE chip you are referring to, due to be released early Spring, likely will make the fall revision to the iPhone. Keep in mind, if the Chip starts production in the Spring, it will take until the late summer early fall for Apple to build up enough inventory.
 
No LTE til 2013? Idk

While I hate to say this, I think the next iPhone won't be out til the fall, mainly due to the next set of LTE chips. While I understand that people think Apple could skip over LTE until the technology is even more energy efficient than the 2012 Q2 ones, I just can't see Apple waiting til summer or fall of 2013 to release LTE in the iPhone! I know that only some smartphones have 4g right now, but by summer 2013, just about every smartphone should have it, making it a very old, in technology time, and making Apple look like they are just playing catch-up. Obviously in the past, Apple has waited to implement some technologies after others have adopted them after they deem it worthy but usually it's not that long after, which would be the case with a 2013 summer or fall release of a 4g iPhone. And even though I love my iphone (3gs) and am waiting for the 6th iPhone, if it doesn't have LTE, I might switch over to a Droid that does (I really hope it doesn't come to this though).


My Predictions:
Spring (March) - iPad 3
Spring/Summer (more likely Summer but really keeping my fingers crossed for Spring) - Macbook Air and Pro Ivy Bridge Refresh - hopefully 15" MBA with 8gb RAM option and USB 3.0. Internal upgrades, no form factor change
Fall - iPhone with LTE
 
I hope they also upgraded the anti-suicide nets at Foxconn.

It would be such a mess if iPhone production got delayed because some employee still found a way to kill himself over the great working conditions there.

Time the US charged social security and on imports from countries with negligible labor laws to battle unfair competition that costs American workers manufacturing jobs.
 
Never say Never. The 3.5" screen used by the iPhone is very small in today's world. Things is the market is still trying to figure out the ideal size. It seems to be zeroing in on around 4.3ish-4.5 range. The galaxy Nexus is at the 4.3 size once you adjust for the onscreen buttons.

Look a dumb phones. They kept getting smaller and smaller for a while and the smallest was a pantech phone in 2005ish-06ish and the went up in size and the flip phone/dumb phone settled on a ideal size.
Smart phones are still trying to figure out its range which I figure is 4.0-4.5. I like 4.0-4.3

Absolutely, they need that bigger screen now. I thought the 3.5" was sufficient but my girlfriend has a 4.3" android and the screen is beautiful, and still usable with one hand... I think the sweet spot is 4" for the iphone though.

I've got a lot of money tied up in ios apps but if the screen size doesn't shift this refresh I'll be tempted to jump ship.
 
but what about the early iPhone 4 adopters, their plan ends around june and i guess many dont want to wait til fall ...

i hope we get a 4.0 screen, i never use my phone with one hand anyway ... and i personally dont think they can keep the same design for another generation. lets face it, the general customer doesnt care as much about hardware. they want a different looking phone. many people keep asking me why i bought the 4S when i own the 4 which looks the same.

get rid of the useless menu button that breaks after a half year anyway and move over to gestures like on the iPad.
 
[I really hope we see a bigger screen.. the 3.5" isn't enough anymore.. especially since now everyone uses phones to consume media..
I prefer to watch and listen to media rather than to eat it. Trust me, it doesn't taste all that nice. Though having said that I find that a 3.5" media is a lot easier to fit into my mouth than 4" and gives me less indigestion.
 
I dearly hope that there is NO increase of screen size.

I don't believe the reports about a launch of the iPhone 5 for ONE MINUTE.

The test for assessing one of these mad reports is 'does this make sense?'

It makes NO sense for Apple to launch an iPhone 5 8-9 months after an iPhone 4S that has sold mega number of units and will continue to do so for at least the rest of 2012.

I expect the iPhone 5 to be launched in very late 2012.
 
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Apple is never returning to its traditional (predictable) release schedule. The whole point is to be less predictable so sales don't drop off a cliff when customers start waiting for a new one. The transition was painful last fall but the hard part is past.

I just saw some dummy cnet advice columnist advise someone that upgrading her 3G to the 4S would be a bad idea since a new phone was due in the fall. Hello?!? Thats a 3 month old phone you're deeming too old to bother! And the replacement is not due any time soon!

Quoted for truth.

"Apple is never returning to its traditional (predictable) release schedule"
I agree with this 100%. So if you "expect" a release date for an Apple product you are dreaming and kidding yourself.
 
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