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Apple Gets EU Warning to Open iOS to Third-Party Connected Devices
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We need some low brow humor around here ... intermixed with all the people arguing for Apple to be able to restrict customer choice and freedom
The EU is going way too far. They must be money hungry. There's a better chance the EU will dissolve than Apple serving their technology on a silver plate to them or anyone else.
Imagine iOS running on a Huawei phone, all the hacking that will be introduced into the Apple Ecosystem?
I would prefer to go back to an analog landline, writing letters and sending faxes if that ever happens.
Imagine iOS running on a Huawei phone, all the hacking that will be introduced into the Apple Ecosystem?
I would prefer to go back to an analog landline, writing letters and sending faxes if that ever happens.
I think you misunderstand the direction of the EU legislation here. The EU isn't forcing Apple to make their AirTags or Watch compatible with Samsung devices.
What's wrong with iOS running on a Huawei device?
You may resort to conspiracy theories all you want, but ultimately we'll survive just fine without Apple and their cartel. It's not integral to our history, it's just a business.
I don't get how EU is able to charge 10% annual turnover, overreach more? and how is this any different from commies.
I don't even feel bad for Apple at this point. You know these idiots are going to bend you over every chance they get, so if you put up with it, you deserve it.
Because EU is broke and need money. US tech companies is one of their cash cows.
Or, if this is a feature that consumers are demanding, Apple will suffer in the marketplace.
But it's actually the opposite. Apple's customers love their products. And that's only about 25% of the market in the EU. Those who demand a more open system go with an Android compatible phone and accessories, and that's about 70% of the market.
Explain to me how the market isn't taking care of this for you?
Because private companies still have to operate within the law and don't get to do whatever the hell they want at the expense of consumers.
I know I will sound pedantic, I can't think of any other way of saying it, so sorry. I wonder where exactly the EU will draw the line between what Apple is allowed to have exclusive control over and where third parties are allowed access? Should Apple make it easy to run Android on an iPhone, for example?
Completely disagree.
There are several misconceptions present in this comment.
Firstly, the claim that Huawei is being blocked from operating properly in Europe is not accurate. Although Huawey faces some restrictions in some European countries, mainly regarding 5G networks, Huawei continues to offer a wide range of products in the European market like, for example Tablets, Smartphones, Laptops and Wearables, just naming a few, not to mention the a huge percentage of the inverters that are being used in solar plants, for example.
This variety of products demonstrates that, despite some restrictions, Huawei maintains a significant presence in the European technology market, so your assertion, carefully avoiding the other examples I gave, like Samsung or Xiaomi, is, at least wrong leading.
On other hand, the assertion that "innovation and free market are just buzzwords" ignores substantial historical and economic evidence. The free market has been a fundamental driver for innovation and technological progress through history for several reasons. While government regulation has its role, especially in matters of safety and consumer protection, excessive control can have negative effects of limitation of choice, creating entry barriers, inefficiency and rigidity.
While regulation has its place in protecting consumers and ensuring safety standards, a careful balance is necessary. A market excessively controlled by state can stifle innovation and limit consumer choices. Economic history shows us that free markets, when properly regulated, have been the most effective engines for driving innovation and technological progress, benefiting both consumers and society as a whole.
This is not the case lately with the EU and the last Draghi report makes several key points about excessive regulation in the EU. The report emphasizes that while regulation is necessary, excessive regulation is hampering EU competitiveness and innovation, particularly in comparison to the US and China.
So no, this is not a conspiracy theory. Just a legitimate question about what is driving this systematic attack on some USA based companies like Apple and Google.
Mostly because the US DOJ case was built on the basis of the Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890, which is a 134 year old law built for outright monopolies in physical goods. By most definitions, Apple has a strong market position but nowhere close to an outright monopoly. And what Apple is doing by leveraging its strong position in smartphones to give itself an advantage in adjacent markets is not outright "tying" because it's not a mandatory purchase.
So the legal bar for Apple's behavior to be illegal in the US based on the Sherman Act is much higher than it is for Apple's behaviour to be illegal in the EU based on the DMA. So many people are expecting at least significant portions of the DOJ case to get thrown out.
If you'll allow a bad analogy: imagine there was a car accident where somebody was looking at their phone and accidentally killed a pedestrian, but the DOJ didn't have a law available for looking at your phone while driving - so decided to sue for murder instead, which requires premeditation so is a much higher bar to clear.
Amazing how many people can't seem to comprehend this point you're making
Sorry, why are macrumors members against iOS being available for use on other devices? This should be good for us consumers. Eg with proper competition, can Apple really keep releasing crappy 60hz screens on new iPhones?
One thing I’ll never understand about the members of this forum is blind support for a corporation….You can be a fan of the products, but why do you enjoy being maximally squeezed for profit by Apple?
One thing I’ll never understand about the members of this forum is blind support for a corporation….You can be a fan of the products, but why do you enjoy being maximally squeezed for profit by Apple?
Why not? Apple has a monopoly with iOS on the iPhone. 3rd party should be allowed to run on iPhone too, like Android.
There's a nice straw man. How about you steel man our arguments before you pretend to understand our culture?
The EU did not force the adoption of USB-C on Apple. Apple had already been moving toward this standard for years. And once I got my USB-C iphone, you know what I had to do with the 50 or so lightning cables I had? I'll let you think that over.
Yep, Tim Cook played it stupid. He should simply put Android on the iPhone for the EU and call it a day.
Because such a move wouldn't be good for Apple shareholders, and the humans like exclusivity which allows apple to fully capitalize on this BS.
I don't think there was ever going to be a business case for Apple to move from lightning to USB-C. Switching from Lightning to USB-C would not have given them any additional customers, would not have increased revenue or lowered cost, and would have lowered the switching barrier for customers to go from Apple to Android. I think Apple would just have waited it out until they could go full wireless.
I'm not saying that is in any way wrong or unethical behaviour from them - there was just no business reason for them to switch, in the same sense that there was no business reason for Tesla to open up its supercharger network to non-Tesla EV's until the government created the NACS standard. Sometimes markets end up in a suboptimal situation and can need a little government nudge to get to a more efficient state.
Lmao. And I remember idiots wanted this DMA slop. You reap what you sow. You can't tell me this isn't complete overreach. Not only stupid, but laughably predictable. I knew they would pull some BS like this when they mandated USB-C and forced Apple's hand. Power corrupts absolutely. To make Apple bend the knee as much as possible.
They don't. They put development time and effort into preventing or disabling functionality that's supported by protocols and standards by default.
I wouldn't bank on this tbh, Samsung was doing that with their exynos CPUs but people still bought them.