Pull out of the US too?
US sues Apple for illegal monopoly over smartphones
The lawsuit seeks to upend a major part of Apple’s business.
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Pull out of the US too?
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Maybe because we're not "stanning for megacorps" but instead don't think these regulations are actually in our own interests? I think this is just going to lead to worse products, services, and user experience and provide me with absolutely nothing that I want.
The govement hasn't won yet, the case hasn't even started.Pull out of the US too?
US sues Apple for illegal monopoly over smartphones
The lawsuit seeks to upend a major part of Apple’s business.
Pull out of the US too?
US sues Apple for illegal monopoly over smartphones
The lawsuit seeks to upend a major part of Apple’s business.
Again, if you know anything about US antitrust law this is a laughably weak case that is likely to have large portions thrown out entirely.
As long as their balance is higher by complying than leaving then they will not pull out
(Hint: they will never pull out)
Pull out of the US too?
US sues Apple for illegal monopoly over smartphones
The lawsuit seeks to upend a major part of Apple’s business.
Pull out of EARTH!
Go Galactic Only Apple!
Too many rules down here with the humans
Maybe setup an Apple Store next door to Elons Mars base?
While I don't think they'd pull out because of the DMA, I do think there are things that the EU might try to require that would cause Apple to pull out even if it cost them on the balance sheet (encryption backdoors being the first example that comes to mind).
I dont recall being able to play Xbox CD games on my Playstation 5, nor do I have acess to a 3rd party gamestore..
Yeah except, who is "we"? Your opinion is extremely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, because only like 4 people actually have the "user experience" term in their dictionary.
As for products and services, ultimately Apple charges more for their products in the EU than in the US, and by quite a bit, too. And they offer less functional services of their own while trying to weasel out of the DMA. So I'd argue you're acting in Apple's interests and not yours.
Same to you - always good to some people calmly discussing the arguments on their merits rather than escalating into the usual cross-ocean shouting match 😅
I think the key thing to remember is that the DMA is not legislation intended to directly protect consumers. Its not really about the user experience or the smartphone as a product by itself. The DMA is about protecting competition in digital markets, which are typically built on top of other platforms (in practice, 99% on top of smartphones). So its intent is purely to make it easier for smaller companies to compete with companies like Apple and Google, before the entire world economy gets sucked into these wholly integrated ecosystems run by massive megacorps. They want to avoid that by 2040, everything from your health insurance to your pizza delivery is owned by AppleDisneyWalmart and GoogleNetflixESPN.
On top of that, it's important to understand that the EU does not trigger these discussions just with a few bureaucrats sitting behind a desk looking at a phone and thinking "which parts of this should we regulate?". It's based on years of industry consultation and checking with other companies in the industry where they see unfair competition and non-level playing fields. So if banks complain to the EU that they can't compete with Apple Pay because Apple is walling off the NFC chip, then the EU complains to Apple about that. If Spotify complains that Apple Music gets an advantage because Apple is advertising it in the Settings app, the EU may complain about that. But if no companies are complaining that changes in screen sizes are creating an unfair advantage to Apple's own plastic cases, then the EU doesn't care.
If you stop thinking about this entire thing from a technology pov and start looking at the business & competition side of it (like I can assure you Apple is doing behind the scenes), the things they're picking up on usually aren't that far-fetched.
That's true and I guess Apple was tired on waiting to replace their 30-pin connector and they said, "We have to come up with something." The lightning cable was just a middle stop and I strongly believe that Apple would have moved away from the lightning connector without the EU's law mandate it that they must transition to USB-C if they want to sell anything in the EU.
No DMA = higher services revenue = higher stock price = happy APPL stock holders. 🎯
Give up your IP to business because the EU says so? It's known fact that the EU's tech companies can't compete with the US. You don't see the US doing that same thing with cars do you? What I still can't understand is how the DMA can fine global sales and not just sales in the EU. In my opinion Apple should leave the EU, as should Google and Meta. The $10 billion or so in loses potential revenue isn't out weighed by the potential lose of an ecosystem that took decades to build. The EU isn't the second largest market for Apple and at the moment presents for headaches then anything else. Let Apple sell them a stripped down version of the iPhone 16 while the rest of the world waits for the 17 lol.
So much for a free market. I guess the EU is just saying 'we'll take it from here' going forward when it comes to writing requirements for Apple. When you get to a certain size, the politicians take over in deciding how you run your company. I mean....they're the one's who get to decide what is 'fair'.
Hey - I want my Ford 150 to take GMC's Duramax diesel. Ford - make that happen or I will fine you $50B! It's only 'fair' that I can use my preferred Duramax engine.
Hey - I want my Ford 150 to take GMC's Duramax diesel. Ford - make that happen or I will fine you $50B! It's only 'fair' that I can use my preferred Duramax engine.
Really? So why I have uninstallable, non core Samsung apps on my Samsung phone?
If you're using your IP for shady business practices don't be surprised to face such consequences. The Russian government before 2022 is a fairly similar comparison, and I'm sure you're not supporting their actions.
Seems like you're approaching conspiracy theory territory here.
btw:
"The ECtHR categorically confirmed that solutions that weaken encryption or create backdoors to facilitate access by law enforcement authorities to encrypted communication data in the context of criminal investigations violate the right to private life, under Article 8 European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) of all users."
And that is it. It will become a freer market with it. People being able to purchase a pixel watch and still use an iPhone is actually free.
I’m doing my best to not type out a response to this. But you’re lobbing up softballs. So hard (dangit, pun) to resist….
That’s what xxx xxxx! (best I can do ). Very low brow, I know.